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 Stuk  Top half 17 Aug 12 4.34pm |
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What exactly did they expect? Even their choice of name shrieks attention seekers. Loving the faux solidarity from other like minded attention seekers around the world.
I thought they made music? Anyway they've got the attention they craved, hope that's the last we hear about them.
Where was all this support from around the world or from musicians when Dave Gilmours child got jailed? He was only swinging on a flag after all...
97 per cent of cases that go in front of a Russian court return a guilty verdict. There's no jury. Just a prosecutor and a judge. Fair play to these girls for standing up to it and bringing it to the attention of the World. I disagree. People doing things they know they will get jailed for, then bitching about it isn't even news. PR stunt gone right/wrong is all.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Aug 12 4.47pm |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 17 Aug 2012 4.33pm
Russia is a mafia state. I completely disagree that it is comparable in a meaningful way with the better Western democraties.....We aren't perfect but we don't murder journalists or human rights lawyers. The case of one particular campaigner who protested on western television about the raping of 'troublesome' women by gangs who she said were supported by Police...She says she has received death threats. Within the same report days later she herself is raped and murdered.....Modern day Russia is not comparable. However I agree that Pussy Riot should be jailed.....Though not for anything like three years....Six months maximum, out in three if they behave. Repeat and rinse if they continue to do it. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2012 4.34pm) At the risk of sounding controversial, they need to be jailed. Its actually in the best interest of those who want 'a free Russia' that Pussy Riot and protestors go to prison, becoming international icons for reform of the 'Mafia State'. One of the key necessities of any protest movement are 'martyrs' that draw international attention, and raise domestic resistance. Imagine had Nelson Mandella not been imprisoned on Rykers for 25 years: the impact on the ANC internationally in terms of support, would have been far lower. If you protest an oppressive regime, there is a price to be paid. Freedom isn't given, its taken by the blood, sweat and tears of those who stand up to injustice. Every movement needs is 'innocent' martyrs.
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| Stirlingsays Wisbech, England 17 Aug 12 5.35pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 17 Aug 2012 4.47pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 17 Aug 2012 4.33pm
Russia is a mafia state. I completely disagree that it is comparable in a meaningful way with the better Western democraties.....We aren't perfect but we don't murder journalists or human rights lawyers. The case of one particular campaigner who protested on western television about the raping of 'troublesome' women by gangs who she said were supported by Police...She says she has received death threats. Within the same report days later she herself is raped and murdered.....Modern day Russia is not comparable. However I agree that Pussy Riot should be jailed.....Though not for anything like three years....Six months maximum, out in three if they behave. Repeat and rinse if they continue to do it. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2012 4.34pm) At the risk of sounding controversial, they need to be jailed. Its actually in the best interest of those who want 'a free Russia' that Pussy Riot and protestors go to prison, becoming international icons for reform of the 'Mafia State'. One of the key necessities of any protest movement are 'martyrs' that draw international attention, and raise domestic resistance. Imagine had Nelson Mandella not been imprisoned on Rykers for 25 years: the impact on the ANC internationally in terms of support, would have been far lower. If you protest an oppressive regime, there is a price to be paid. Freedom isn't given, its taken by the blood, sweat and tears of those who stand up to injustice. Every movement needs is 'innocent' martyrs.
Obviously I feel Russia's economic preformance will have the major say on the scale of that developing unrest. Modern communications will help, no country can just be an island, even one as large as Russia...Well, unless it wants to destroy its own country to hold onto power like North Korea.
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The Sash  Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 17 Aug 12 8.00pm |
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Theres certainly going to be a 'pussy riot' when they hit the Russian equivilant of Holloway and have to share a cell with a dyke the size of a Land Rover called Svetlana Assrapervich
"It's all out now, it's out in the open like a big fat fucking hairy rapist outside a bus station" - Malcom Tucker |
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| Southampton_Eagle At the after party 17 Aug 12 8.10pm |
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Quote The Sash at 17 Aug 2012 8.00pm
Theres certainly going to be a 'pussy riot' when they hit the Russian equivilant of Holloway and have to share a cell with a dyke the size of a Land Rover called Svetlana Assrapervich Surprise surprise my ex is brought up in conversation again. I reiterate Svetlana was still hetrosexual when she dumped me. My micro p*nis did not turn her towards the clitoris.
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| The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 17 Aug 12 8.14pm |
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Theres certainly going to be a 'pussy riot' when they hit the Russian equivilant of Holloway and have to share a cell with a dyke the size of a Land Rover called Svetlana Assrapervich Surprise surprise my ex is brought up in conversation again. I reiterate Svetlana was still hetrosexual when she dumped me. My micro p*nis did not turn her towards the clitoris. That'll teach you to pick your women from russianwomenarewettingthemselvestoseeyou.com
"It's all out now, it's out in the open like a big fat fucking hairy rapist outside a bus station" - Malcom Tucker |
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| Southampton_Eagle At the after party 17 Aug 12 8.20pm |
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Theres certainly going to be a 'pussy riot' when they hit the Russian equivilant of Holloway and have to share a cell with a dyke the size of a Land Rover called Svetlana Assrapervich Surprise surprise my ex is brought up in conversation again. I reiterate Svetlana was still hetrosexual when she dumped me. My micro p*nis did not turn her towards the clitoris. That'll teach you to pick your women from russianwomenarewettingthemselvestoseeyou.com
Great site. I actually got her on finance from hummer.com. Thought I was getting a smelly bird. Turned out it was a f*cking tank instead.
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| cpfcdboi caterham 18 Aug 12 9.01am |
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I see Madonna stuck up for them and got labelled a whore by the vice president ! At least he got something right
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| Hoof Hearted Bristol (ex Carshalton) 18 Aug 12 9.59am |
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Quote cpfcdboi at 18 Aug 2012 9.01am
I see Madonna stuck up for them and got labelled a whore by the vice president ! At least he got something right Should have been "mouthy tuneless whore"
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| Stirlingsays Wisbech, England 18 Aug 12 10.16am |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 17 Aug 2012 4.47pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 17 Aug 2012 4.33pm
Russia is a mafia state. I completely disagree that it is comparable in a meaningful way with the better Western democraties.....We aren't perfect but we don't murder journalists or human rights lawyers. The case of one particular campaigner who protested on western television about the raping of 'troublesome' women by gangs who she said were supported by Police...She says she has received death threats. Within the same report days later she herself is raped and murdered.....Modern day Russia is not comparable. However I agree that Pussy Riot should be jailed.....Though not for anything like three years....Six months maximum, out in three if they behave. Repeat and rinse if they continue to do it. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2012 4.34pm) At the risk of sounding controversial, they need to be jailed. Its actually in the best interest of those who want 'a free Russia' that Pussy Riot and protestors go to prison, becoming international icons for reform of the 'Mafia State'. One of the key necessities of any protest movement are 'martyrs' that draw international attention, and raise domestic resistance. Imagine had Nelson Mandella not been imprisoned on Rykers for 25 years: the impact on the ANC internationally in terms of support, would have been far lower. If you protest an oppressive regime, there is a price to be paid. Freedom isn't given, its taken by the blood, sweat and tears of those who stand up to injustice. Every movement needs is 'innocent' martyrs.
Russia is a religious society, the freedom movement should look to the examples of Poland and East Germany rather than try to back these individuals too heavily.
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martinb75  Tampere 18 Aug 12 6.06pm |
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Looking at it another way, I would do the tall one with the big lips !
"Palace have got the right colours to do what I believe football is all about," he said. "The strip's very similar to Barcelona and they represent what I'm trying to get to: possession, passing, attacking, defending off your attacking, fresh young footballers and creating your own style." |
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Aug 12 10.35pm |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Aug 2012 10.16am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 17 Aug 2012 4.47pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 17 Aug 2012 4.33pm
Russia is a mafia state. I completely disagree that it is comparable in a meaningful way with the better Western democraties.....We aren't perfect but we don't murder journalists or human rights lawyers. The case of one particular campaigner who protested on western television about the raping of 'troublesome' women by gangs who she said were supported by Police...She says she has received death threats. Within the same report days later she herself is raped and murdered.....Modern day Russia is not comparable. However I agree that Pussy Riot should be jailed.....Though not for anything like three years....Six months maximum, out in three if they behave. Repeat and rinse if they continue to do it. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2012 4.34pm) At the risk of sounding controversial, they need to be jailed. Its actually in the best interest of those who want 'a free Russia' that Pussy Riot and protestors go to prison, becoming international icons for reform of the 'Mafia State'. One of the key necessities of any protest movement are 'martyrs' that draw international attention, and raise domestic resistance. Imagine had Nelson Mandella not been imprisoned on Rykers for 25 years: the impact on the ANC internationally in terms of support, would have been far lower. If you protest an oppressive regime, there is a price to be paid. Freedom isn't given, its taken by the blood, sweat and tears of those who stand up to injustice. Every movement needs is 'innocent' martyrs.
Russia is a religious society, the freedom movement should look to the examples of Poland and East Germany rather than try to back these individuals too heavily. Putin has a very large conservative christian support base. The church in Russia tends to lack any progressive elements seen in western christendom, having spent the last centuary being the bitch of anyone with a red flag and gold stars.
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