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Stuart_Eagle Kent 13 Sep 12 1.20pm
Quote DiscoCafc at 12 Sep 2012 11.42pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 Sep 2012 11.51am Sadly Charlton fans never grow up. They still hate us for kindly allowing them to play at Selhurst rather than a park pitch. You lot never learn. You gave us a ground to play in, well done but: 1) You charged us and made a massive profit out of us 2) We were in a no win situation as the majority of us fans hated the fact we was playing at a ground which a team we despise plays in 3) Just for the record, we hated you BEFORE the Selhurst move was annouced This is a no brainer, I don't think you seem to grasp the fact that your club had the better deal when we were ground sharing. What makes me laugh is the fact you expect us to sit on our knees and say Thank you when you charged us a hefty amount that was a welcome addition to your club and Ron Noades. I would not expect your club to want us to ground share, but the income was so huge, it would have wipped off some of your debts. The fact remains is, if your club decided to move out of Selhurst for whatever reason and moved to the Valley, we would have charged you a hefty amount as well. Football is a business and any club welcomes a profit and I can imagaine Charlton would welcome your club to rent the Valley, as long as you pay us. No way we would expect you to appreciate it though. Edited by DiscoCafc (12 Sep 2012 11.44pm) (Whoops, edited instead of quoting - H) Edited by Hambo (13 Sep 2012 9.54am) The FACT is the owner you speak of is the same guy that stripped our club of its assets so we all benefited in some way but additionally suffered as a result of Ron Noades As for hating us before that, I know an enormous amount of charlton fans and this is their number one reason for hating palace, for most it is the only reason, (perhaps if your right then it would do charlton fans some good to learn their clubs history) The one other thing that really pisses off a majority of charlton fans is that no one sees them as a no.1 rival, millwall and palace look elsewhere and that makes Charlton fans feel inferior. Personally I find it all pathetic, I have no bad feeling towards charlton, in fact its a nice club and as I've said before the thing about them is no other fans I speak to have anything to say about them good or bad, to me that's boring but then again thats why I didn't chose to support them as a child when the opportunity was there. If you must embarrass yourselves further then carry on trying to pick battles and create rivalries to make your fixture list seem less dull, truth is millwall and palace will always overlook you, charlton are and will be known as the other south london team we're the Arthur, we're the Arthur, we're the Arthur over here! Positive! Proud & Palace - W block, AW
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Stuart_Eagle

Kent 13 Sep 12 1.20pm

Quote DiscoCafc at 12 Sep 2012 11.42pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 Sep 2012 11.51am

Sadly Charlton fans never grow up.

They still hate us for kindly allowing them to play at Selhurst rather than a park pitch.

You lot never learn.

You gave us a ground to play in, well done but:

1) You charged us and made a massive profit out of us
2) We were in a no win situation as the majority of us fans hated the fact we was playing at a ground which a team we despise plays in
3) Just for the record, we hated you BEFORE the Selhurst move was annouced

This is a no brainer, I don't think you seem to grasp the fact that your club had the better deal when we were ground sharing.

What makes me laugh is the fact you expect us to sit on our knees and say Thank you when you charged us a hefty amount that was a welcome addition to your club and Ron Noades. I would not expect your club to want us to ground share, but the income was so huge, it would have wipped off some of your debts.

The fact remains is, if your club decided to move out of Selhurst for whatever reason and moved to the Valley, we would have charged you a hefty amount as well. Football is a business and any club welcomes a profit and I can imagaine Charlton would welcome your club to rent the Valley, as long as you pay us. No way we would expect you to appreciate it though.

Edited by DiscoCafc (12 Sep 2012 11.44pm)

(Whoops, edited instead of quoting - H)

Edited by Hambo (13 Sep 2012 9.54am)

The FACT is the owner you speak of is the same guy that stripped our club of its assets so we all benefited in some way but additionally suffered as a result of Ron Noades

As for hating us before that, I know an enormous amount of charlton fans and this is their number one reason for hating palace, for most it is the only reason, (perhaps if your right then it would do charlton fans some good to learn their clubs history)

The one other thing that really pisses off a majority of charlton fans is that no one sees them as a no.1 rival, millwall and palace look elsewhere and that makes Charlton fans feel inferior.

Personally I find it all pathetic, I have no bad feeling towards charlton, in fact its a nice club and as I've said before the thing about them is no other fans I speak to have anything to say about them good or bad, to me that's boring but then again thats why I didn't chose to support them as a child when the opportunity was there.
If you must embarrass yourselves further then carry on trying to pick battles and create rivalries to make your fixture list seem less dull, truth is millwall and palace will always overlook you, charlton are and will be known as the other south london team

we're the Arthur, we're the Arthur, we're the Arthur over here!

Positive! Proud & Palace - W block, AW

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DiscoCafc ORPINGTON 13 Sep 12 5.21pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 13 Sep 2012 11.20am Quote DiscoCafc at 12 Sep 2012 11.42pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 Sep 2012 11.51am Sadly Charlton fans never grow up. They still hate us for kindly allowing them to play at Selhurst rather than a park pitch. You lot never learn. You gave us a ground to play in, well done but: 1) You charged us and made a massive profit out of us 2) We were in a no win situation as the majority of us fans hated the fact we was playing at a ground which a team we despise plays in 3) Just for the record, we hated you BEFORE the Selhurst move was annouced This is a no brainer, I don't think you seem to grasp the fact that your club had the better deal when we were ground sharing. What makes me laugh is the fact you expect us to sit on our knees and say Thank you when you charged us a hefty amount that was a welcome addition to your club and Ron Noades. I would not expect your club to want us to ground share, but the income was so huge, it would have wipped off some of your debts. The fact remains is, if your club decided to move out of Selhurst for whatever reason and moved to the Valley, we would have charged you a hefty amount as well. Football is a business and any club welcomes a profit and I can imagaine Charlton would welcome your club to rent the Valley, as long as you pay us. No way we would expect you to appreciate it though. We never learn? I've had this debate with you before and explained the deal. It was Noades that owned Selhurst Park stadium back then and he was charging CPFC rent to play there. You came along and negotiated with Noades (not CPFC) to play at Selhurst. If the rent he set was too high for your pathetic club then that is a matter between your club and him. What has CPFC got to do with it? We didn't have any debts back then, in fact we were doing so well that Noades started to cream off income from our club. You are right we didn't want you there. It took years of scrubbing with Ajax and Brut to get rid of the stench of you Pikeys. Maybe we should Thank Ron Noades then according to most of you. Nice to know your history, perhaps most other fellow Palace fans should read your post then they might learn something from it.
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ORPINGTON 13 Sep 12 5.21pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 13 Sep 2012 11.20am

Quote DiscoCafc at 12 Sep 2012 11.42pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 Sep 2012 11.51am

Sadly Charlton fans never grow up.

They still hate us for kindly allowing them to play at Selhurst rather than a park pitch.

You lot never learn.

You gave us a ground to play in, well done but:

This is a no brainer, I don't think you seem to grasp the fact that your club had the better deal when we were ground sharing.

We never learn?

I've had this debate with you before and explained the deal.

It was Noades that owned Selhurst Park stadium back then and he was charging CPFC rent to play there.

You came along and negotiated with Noades (not CPFC) to play at Selhurst. If the rent he set was too high for your pathetic club then that is a matter between your club and him.

What has CPFC got to do with it?

We didn't have any debts back then, in fact we were doing so well that Noades started to cream off income from our club.

You are right we didn't want you there. It took years of scrubbing with Ajax and Brut to get rid of the stench of you Pikeys.

Maybe we should Thank Ron Noades then according to most of you.

Nice to know your history, perhaps most other fellow Palace fans should read your post then they might learn something from it.

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westquay luxury pad 13 Sep 12 5.30pm
Quote DiscoCafc at 12 Sep 2012 11.42pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 Sep 2012 11.51am Sadly Charlton fans never grow up. They still hate us for kindly allowing them to play at Selhurst rather than a park pitch. You lot never learn. You gave us a ground to play in, well done but: 1) You charged us and made a massive profit out of us 2) We were in a no win situation as the majority of us fans hated the fact we was playing at a ground which a team we despise plays in 3) Just for the record, we hated you BEFORE the Selhurst move was annouced This is a no brainer, I don't think you seem to grasp the fact that your club had the better deal when we were ground sharing. What makes me laugh is the fact you expect us to sit on our knees and say Thank you when you charged us a hefty amount that was a welcome addition to your club and Ron Noades. I would not expect your club to want us to ground share, but the income was so huge, it would have wipped off some of your debts. The fact remains is, if your club decided to move out of Selhurst for whatever reason and moved to the Valley, we would have charged you a hefty amount as well. Football is a business and any club welcomes a profit and I can imagaine Charlton would welcome your club to rent the Valley, as long as you pay us. No way we would expect you to appreciate it though. Edited by DiscoCafc (12 Sep 2012 11.44pm) (Whoops, edited instead of quoting - H) Edited by Hambo (13 Sep 2012 9.54am) I really never wanted thanks from Ch..Ha.Ha.rlton fans. I just wanted you to bugger off out of selhurst and never come back. As for making a profit..We had to spend it all on getting the ground fumigated after you had gone... No profit there then. "Numb,gutted and shocked . Three words that sum up how I feel." "Passionate,principled, genius. Three words that sum up Joe Strummer" Martin Scorcese, Film director.
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Quote DiscoCafc at 12 Sep 2012 11.42pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 Sep 2012 11.51am

Sadly Charlton fans never grow up.

They still hate us for kindly allowing them to play at Selhurst rather than a park pitch.

You lot never learn.

You gave us a ground to play in, well done but:

This is a no brainer, I don't think you seem to grasp the fact that your club had the better deal when we were ground sharing.

Edited by DiscoCafc (12 Sep 2012 11.44pm)

(Whoops, edited instead of quoting - H)

Edited by Hambo (13 Sep 2012 9.54am)

I really never wanted thanks from Ch..Ha.Ha.rlton fans.
I just wanted you to bugger off out of selhurst and never come back.
As for making a profit..We had to spend it all on getting the ground fumigated after you had gone...
No profit there then.

"Numb,gutted and shocked . Three words that sum up how I feel."
"Passionate,principled, genius. Three words that sum up Joe Strummer"
Martin Scorcese, Film director.

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binlid southampton 13 Sep 12 6.23pm
Thanks for the link to their forum reminded me of the school playground all those years ago...i feel relativly young again :-)
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binlid

southampton 13 Sep 12 6.23pm

Thanks for the link to their forum reminded me of the school playground all those years ago...i feel relativly young again :-)

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Bubbs Edinburgh 13 Sep 12 7.09pm
I trust that we will be taking a banner along tomorrow saying: Kelvin McKenzie is a low life scum and death is too good for him..... Just a bit of harmless banter. It's just an opinion, and i'm sure we can make an apology 23 years later if it turns out he was actually a decent human being all along. 'Better stop dreaming of the quiet life 'cos it's the one we'll never know'
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Bubbs

Edinburgh 13 Sep 12 7.09pm

I trust that we will be taking a banner along tomorrow saying: Kelvin McKenzie is a low life scum and death is too good for him.....

Just a bit of harmless banter. It's just an opinion, and i'm sure we can make an apology 23 years later if it turns out he was actually a decent human being all along.

'Better stop dreaming of the quiet life 'cos it's the one we'll never know'

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stujii 13 Sep 12 8.40pm
Quote DiscoCafc at 12 Sep 2012 11.42pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 Sep 2012 11.51am Sadly Charlton fans never grow up. They still hate us for kindly allowing them to play at Selhurst rather than a park pitch. You lot never learn. You gave us a ground to play in, well done but: 1) You charged us and made a massive profit out of us 2) We were in a no win situation as the majority of us fans hated the fact we was playing at a ground which a team we despise plays in 3) Just for the record, we hated you BEFORE the Selhurst move was annouced This is a no brainer, I don't think you seem to grasp the fact that your club had the better deal when we were ground sharing. What makes me laugh is the fact you expect us to sit on our knees and say Thank you when you charged us a hefty amount that was a welcome addition to your club and Ron Noades. I would not expect your club to want us to ground share, but the income was so huge, it would have wipped off some of your debts. The fact remains is, if your club decided to move out of Selhurst for whatever reason and moved to the Valley, we would have charged you a hefty amount as well. Football is a business and any club welcomes a profit and I can imagaine Charlton would welcome your club to rent the Valley, as long as you pay us. No way we would expect you to appreciate it though. Edited by DiscoCafc (12 Sep 2012 11.44pm) (Whoops, edited instead of quoting - H) Edited by Hambo (13 Sep 2012 9.54am) You got it all wrong mate, learn the history and facts about your own club before you come whinging on this site. The reason you came to Selhurst was because your club was fcuked after splashing the cash on a certain European player of the year Allan Simonsen who turned out to be a flop. Your board reckoned on his purchase boosting attendances but this never materialised. The Valley wasn’t fit for purpose and you had no money to sort it out. If you feel you need to blame someone then blame Jimmy Hill not good old Uncle Ron (god bless im), it was Hill that convinced your board about ground sharing. Uncle Ron didn’t force you into it. It was your club which came to us asking to be tenants (without our help you would have gone out of existence. No one else wanted to put you up) So perhaps a little recognition and gratitude wouldn’t go amiss instead of blaming us for your own fcuk-ups Edited by stujii (13 Sep 2012 8.42pm)
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stujii

13 Sep 12 8.40pm

Quote DiscoCafc at 12 Sep 2012 11.42pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 Sep 2012 11.51am

Sadly Charlton fans never grow up.

They still hate us for kindly allowing them to play at Selhurst rather than a park pitch.

You lot never learn.

You gave us a ground to play in, well done but:

This is a no brainer, I don't think you seem to grasp the fact that your club had the better deal when we were ground sharing.

Edited by DiscoCafc (12 Sep 2012 11.44pm)

(Whoops, edited instead of quoting - H)

Edited by Hambo (13 Sep 2012 9.54am)

You got it all wrong mate, learn the history and facts about your own club before you come whinging on this site.
The reason you came to Selhurst was because your club was fcuked after splashing the cash on a certain European player of the year Allan Simonsen who turned out to be a flop. Your board reckoned on his purchase boosting attendances but this never materialised. The Valley wasn’t fit for purpose and you had no money to sort it out.
If you feel you need to blame someone then blame Jimmy Hill not good old Uncle Ron (god bless im), it was Hill that convinced your board about ground sharing. Uncle Ron didn’t force you into it. It was your club which came to us asking to be tenants (without our help you would have gone out of existence. No one else wanted to put you up)
So perhaps a little recognition and gratitude wouldn’t go amiss instead of blaming us for your own fcuk-ups

Edited by stujii (13 Sep 2012 8.42pm)

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 14 Sep 12 10.28am
Quote eagles1230_3 at 13 Sep 2012 10.55am BRING ON FRIDAY! [Link] Jesus they really are f***ing pathetic, almost laughable if it wasn't so tragic. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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dannyh

wherever I lay my hat....... 14 Sep 12 10.28am

Quote eagles1230_3 at 13 Sep 2012 10.55am

BRING ON FRIDAY!

[Link]

Jesus they really are f***ing pathetic, almost laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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Blue'n'red Field of Chels (Orpington) 14 Sep 12 11.42am
Seeing as Ch-ha-rlton need someone as a number 1 rival? Here's an idea ... AFC Wimbledon??? They say hard work never hurt anyone ... but why take a chance?
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Blue'n'red

Field of Chels (Orpington) 14 Sep 12 11.42am

Seeing as Ch-ha-rlton need someone as a number 1 rival? Here's an idea ... AFC Wimbledon???

They say hard work never hurt anyone ... but why take a chance?

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