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stujii 16 Sep 12 12.03am
Was just wondering if anyone knows, was that disallowed goal last night actually offside or not ? Which part of the body plays someone onside ? Say for instance if only a defenders pointing arm is in front of the attackers body is he playing him onside ?
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stujii

16 Sep 12 12.03am

Was just wondering if anyone knows, was that disallowed goal last night actually offside or not ? Which part of the body plays someone onside ? Say for instance if only a defenders pointing arm is in front of the attackers body is he playing him onside ?

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Fish Luke Southampton 16 Sep 12 12.28am
Any part of the body you can play the ball with, in which case Darcy Blake's head would have kept him onside I believe. Arms don't keep people onside.
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Fish Luke

Southampton 16 Sep 12 12.28am

Any part of the body you can play the ball with, in which case Darcy Blake's head would have kept him onside I believe. Arms don't keep people onside.

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Sg Bilko Deurne Holland 16 Sep 12 8.41am
What does it matter, at last a poor decision goes in our favour instead of against us. Don't get me wrong, I do not condone poor decisions by officials, but in the real world human error is a fact of life. Lets just enjoy the fact that Charlton for all their endeavours created virtually nothing in the 90 mins, where as Palace created far more, and their keeper was busier than Speroni.
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Sg Bilko

Deurne Holland 16 Sep 12 8.41am

What does it matter, at last a poor decision goes in our favour instead of against us.

Don't get me wrong, I do not condone poor decisions by officials, but in the real world human error is a fact of life.

Lets just enjoy the fact that Charlton for all their endeavours created virtually nothing in the 90 mins, where as Palace created far more, and their keeper was busier than Speroni.

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Young Beagle Sevenoaks 16 Sep 12 8.50am
Two further points to consider. Look at the Charlton player who is offside when the kick is taken. Watched it a number of times and if we are going to have replays I think offside would be given. Secondly a player on the ground could/ should be considered inactive. In the same way a returning or injured striker isn't offside when the attacking team play a ball through. Great result. Slaughtered them first half. Scored and held on. Team, management and fans were awesome.
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Young Beagle

Sevenoaks 16 Sep 12 8.50am

Two further points to consider.

Look at the Charlton player who is offside when the kick is taken. Watched it a number of times and if we are going to have replays I think offside would be given.

Secondly a player on the ground could/ should be considered inactive. In the same way a returning or injured striker isn't offside when the attacking team play a ball through.

Great result. Slaughtered them first half. Scored and held on. Team, management and fans were awesome.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 16 Sep 12 11.38am
Quote Sg Bilko at 16 Sep 2012 8.41am What does it matter, at last a poor decision goes in our favour instead of against us. Don't get me wrong, I do not condone poor decisions by officials, but in the real world human error is a fact of life. Lets just enjoy the fact that Charlton for all their endeavours created virtually nothing in the 90 mins, where as Palace created far more, and their keeper was busier than Speroni. I wouldn't say they created nothing. - They had a valid goal disallowed. - They hit the bar. - They had the keeper's header cleared off the line. Don't get me wrong, if anyone deserved the 3 points it was us, but it was by no means clear cut and most times that game would'e been a draw with us holding out for 1 point at the end. We edged it, just.
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 16 Sep 12 11.38am

Quote Sg Bilko at 16 Sep 2012 8.41am

What does it matter, at last a poor decision goes in our favour instead of against us.

Don't get me wrong, I do not condone poor decisions by officials, but in the real world human error is a fact of life.

Lets just enjoy the fact that Charlton for all their endeavours created virtually nothing in the 90 mins, where as Palace created far more, and their keeper was busier than Speroni.

I wouldn't say they created nothing.
- They had a valid goal disallowed.
- They hit the bar.
- They had the keeper's header cleared off the line.

Don't get me wrong, if anyone deserved the 3 points it was us, but it was by no means clear cut and most times that game would'e been a draw with us holding out for 1 point at the end. We edged it, just.

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jelholyoake 16 Sep 12 11.45am
We had a penalty given, then taken away against Wednesday, the Clowns had a 'goal' disallowed. Swings and roundabouts. When i see him, it's gonna be painful. Skinny little cont.
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jelholyoake

16 Sep 12 11.45am

We had a penalty given, then taken away against Wednesday, the Clowns had a 'goal' disallowed.
Swings and roundabouts.

When i see him, it's gonna be painful. Skinny little cont.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 16 Sep 12 11.51am
Quote jelholyoake at 16 Sep 2012 11.45am We had a penalty given, then taken away against Wednesday, the Clowns had a 'goal' disallowed. Swings and roundabouts. The penalty vs Sheff Weds was never a pen in a million years and the goal vs Chavton was a valid goal. Not complaining but we got lucky with 1 and should never have had the other, even though I can't remember a ref changing his mind after placing the ball down and then changing his mind to give the keeper a free drop ball, schoolboy rules style.
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 16 Sep 12 11.51am

Quote jelholyoake at 16 Sep 2012 11.45am

We had a penalty given, then taken away against Wednesday, the Clowns had a 'goal' disallowed.
Swings and roundabouts.

The penalty vs Sheff Weds was never a pen in a million years and the goal vs Chavton was a valid goal. Not complaining but we got lucky with 1 and should never have had the other, even though I can't remember a ref changing his mind after placing the ball down and then changing his mind to give the keeper a free drop ball, schoolboy rules style.

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Sg Bilko Deurne Holland 16 Sep 12 12.08pm
Quote Rudi Hedman at 16 Sep 2012 11.38am Quote Sg Bilko at 16 Sep 2012 8.41am What does it matter, at last a poor decision goes in our favour instead of against us. Don't get me wrong, I do not condone poor decisions by officials, but in the real world human error is a fact of life. Lets just enjoy the fact that Charlton for all their endeavours created virtually nothing in the 90 mins, where as Palace created far more, and their keeper was busier than Speroni. I wouldn't say they created nothing. - They had a valid goal disallowed. - They hit the bar. - They had the keeper's header cleared off the line. Don't get me wrong, if anyone deserved the 3 points it was us, but it was by no means clear cut and most times that game would'e been a draw with us holding out for 1 point at the end. We edged it, just. In 97 mins that was all, like I said that is virtually nothing for a whole game, Palace created many more clear cut chances than that. In the first half apart from the easy save in injury time from the freekick Speroni had very little to do apart from taking goalkicks, the only thing that worried me, was the defences inability to cut out centres decisively and far too often their attack was given free headers, the stats speak for themselves 17 attemps only 6 on target, 44% possession, 2 corners, hardly domination, and to add to that only 38% of play was in our third of the pitch, 17% centrally, and 45% of the game was played in Charltons last third.
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Sg Bilko

Deurne Holland 16 Sep 12 12.08pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 16 Sep 2012 11.38am

Quote Sg Bilko at 16 Sep 2012 8.41am

What does it matter, at last a poor decision goes in our favour instead of against us.

Don't get me wrong, I do not condone poor decisions by officials, but in the real world human error is a fact of life.

Lets just enjoy the fact that Charlton for all their endeavours created virtually nothing in the 90 mins, where as Palace created far more, and their keeper was busier than Speroni.

I wouldn't say they created nothing.
- They had a valid goal disallowed.
- They hit the bar.
- They had the keeper's header cleared off the line.

In 97 mins that was all, like I said that is virtually nothing for a whole game, Palace created many more clear cut chances than that.

In the first half apart from the easy save in injury time from the freekick Speroni had very little to do apart from taking goalkicks, the only thing that worried me, was the defences inability to cut out centres decisively and far too often their attack was given free headers, the stats speak for themselves 17 attemps only 6 on target, 44% possession, 2 corners, hardly domination, and to add to that only 38% of play was in our third of the pitch, 17% centrally, and 45% of the game was played in Charltons last third.

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Sg Bilko Deurne Holland 16 Sep 12 12.12pm
Quote Rudi Hedman at 16 Sep 2012 11.51am Quote jelholyoake at 16 Sep 2012 11.45am We had a penalty given, then taken away against Wednesday, the Clowns had a 'goal' disallowed. Swings and roundabouts. The penalty vs Sheff Weds was never a pen in a million years and the goal vs Chavton was a valid goal. Not complaining but we got lucky with 1 and should never have had the other, even though I can't remember a ref changing his mind after placing the ball down and then changing his mind to give the keeper a free drop ball, schoolboy rules style. The point being made I think is that like everyone else refs make mistakes, most usually go against us, but for once it went in our favour.
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Sg Bilko

Deurne Holland 16 Sep 12 12.12pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 16 Sep 2012 11.51am

Quote jelholyoake at 16 Sep 2012 11.45am

We had a penalty given, then taken away against Wednesday, the Clowns had a 'goal' disallowed.
Swings and roundabouts.

The point being made I think is that like everyone else refs make mistakes, most usually go against us, but for once it went in our favour.

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thegreatlardino creepy crawley 16 Sep 12 12.59pm
it was offside but dont think you could expect the linesman to see the player on the floor when other players were in front of him...tis about time we got some luck.... There’s a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in Millets
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it was offside but dont think you could expect the linesman to see the player on the floor when other players were in front of him...tis about time we got some luck....

There’s a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in Millets

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Prin_cpfc Thornton Heath 16 Sep 12 2.09pm
Blake was on the floor therefore not considerd in play. No goal Ah well
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Prin_cpfc

Thornton Heath 16 Sep 12 2.09pm

Blake was on the floor therefore not considerd in play. No goal

Ah well

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 16 Sep 12 2.47pm
Quote Sg Bilko at 16 Sep 2012 12.08pm Quote Rudi Hedman at 16 Sep 2012 11.38am Quote Sg Bilko at 16 Sep 2012 8.41am What does it matter, at last a poor decision goes in our favour instead of against us. Don't get me wrong, I do not condone poor decisions by officials, but in the real world human error is a fact of life. Lets just enjoy the fact that Charlton for all their endeavours created virtually nothing in the 90 mins, where as Palace created far more, and their keeper was busier than Speroni. I wouldn't say they created nothing. - They had a valid goal disallowed. - They hit the bar. - They had the keeper's header cleared off the line. Don't get me wrong, if anyone deserved the 3 points it was us, but it was by no means clear cut and most times that game would'e been a draw with us holding out for 1 point at the end. We edged it, just. In 97 mins that was all, like I said that is virtually nothing for a whole game, Palace created many more clear cut chances than that. In the first half apart from the easy save in injury time from the freekick Speroni had very little to do apart from taking goalkicks, the only thing that worried me, was the defences inability to cut out centres decisively and far too often their attack was given free headers, the stats speak for themselves 17 attemps only 6 on target, 44% possession, 2 corners, hardly domination, and to add to that only 38% of play was in our third of the pitch, 17% centrally, and 45% of the game was played in Charltons last third. Only you could say having a valid goal disallowed, a chance hit the bar and then headed clear over the bar, and another cleared off the line is 'virtually nothing for a whole game.' If people are honest they'll admit they thought Chavton equalised, or were about to equalise with any of the 3 chances. I can't be bothered to argue with you, I know the stats, I've quoted them previously, but they did have chances, and very good ones.
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 16 Sep 12 2.47pm

Quote Sg Bilko at 16 Sep 2012 12.08pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 16 Sep 2012 11.38am

Quote Sg Bilko at 16 Sep 2012 8.41am

What does it matter, at last a poor decision goes in our favour instead of against us.

Don't get me wrong, I do not condone poor decisions by officials, but in the real world human error is a fact of life.

Lets just enjoy the fact that Charlton for all their endeavours created virtually nothing in the 90 mins, where as Palace created far more, and their keeper was busier than Speroni.

I wouldn't say they created nothing.
- They had a valid goal disallowed.
- They hit the bar.
- They had the keeper's header cleared off the line.

In 97 mins that was all, like I said that is virtually nothing for a whole game, Palace created many more clear cut chances than that.

Only you could say having a valid goal disallowed, a chance hit the bar and then headed clear over the bar, and another cleared off the line is 'virtually nothing for a whole game.' If people are honest they'll admit they thought Chavton equalised, or were about to equalise with any of the 3 chances. I can't be bothered to argue with you, I know the stats, I've quoted them previously, but they did have chances, and very good ones.

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