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bright&wright 23 Jul 14 4.45pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 23 Jul 2014 4.14pm Outside of those that are at war with each other......There are those who want peace. [Link] See what you've done there is put up a link from the BBC who, according to some on here, are anti-Islam, pro-Israel Zeonist scum. Who eat children. 'We are going to make a little bit of history here’ Mr. J. Ertl.
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23 Jul 14 4.45pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 23 Jul 2014 4.14pm

Outside of those that are at war with each other......There are those who want peace.

[Link]

See what you've done there is put up a link from the BBC who, according to some on here, are anti-Islam, pro-Israel Zeonist scum. Who eat children.

'We are going to make a little bit of history here’ Mr. J. Ertl.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 23 Jul 14 4.57pm
I think however much we intelligent, articulate and rational HOLers try to hypothesis a peaceful outcome.,..This is one if the increasingly frequent situations where you are ultimately dealing with morons who are fvcked in the head.(on both sides) Let them get on with it. But in order to make it much more of a spectacle to SKY subscribers, perhaps the UK could supply the Palestinians with a few more modern armaments. That way it : 1)makes it a more even fight 2)makes it more interesting for TV viewers 3)Gives real-life battle-ground testing to the UK's arms industry, there for all the world to see "The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak
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I think however much we intelligent, articulate and rational HOLers try to hypothesis a peaceful outcome.,..This is one if the increasingly frequent situations where you are ultimately dealing with morons who are fvcked in the head.(on both sides)

Let them get on with it.

But in order to make it much more of a spectacle to SKY subscribers, perhaps the UK could supply the Palestinians with a few more modern armaments.

That way it :
1)makes it a more even fight
2)makes it more interesting for TV viewers
3)Gives real-life battle-ground testing to the UK's arms industry, there for all the world to see

"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 23 Jul 14 8.10pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 23 Jul 2014 4.12pm Quote nickgusset at 23 Jul 2014 4.09pm She is a representative of the Israeli state, democratically elected. No Nick....She is a representative of a small area in Israel. She doesn't represent the Jewish state that is the Prime Minister. You do say some silly things sometimes. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Jul 2014 4.14pm) A small area probably in Palestine. "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."
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pefwin

Where you have to have an English ... 23 Jul 14 8.10pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 23 Jul 2014 4.12pm

Quote nickgusset at 23 Jul 2014 4.09pm

She is a representative of the Israeli state, democratically elected.

No Nick....She is a representative of a small area in Israel. She doesn't represent the Jewish state that is the Prime Minister.

You do say some silly things sometimes.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Jul 2014 4.14pm)

A small area probably in Palestine.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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davidpercival Croydon 23 Jul 14 8.56pm
I am quite offended. Sterling seems happy to continue to bandy words with you other Hamas lovers out there but he has finished with me. Fair play, he is a bit outnumbered by the look of it, and his typing fingers must be worn out defending the indefensible. Quote Stirlingsays at 21 Jul 2014 9.59pm Quote davidpercival at 21 Jul 2014 9.06pm They have had 47 years years to listen. How much longer do you expect the Palestinians to take it? What do you see as a "practical solution" to the problem? Because of Israel's actions over the past decades, Fatah and Hamas have agreed to have a coalition government, and it is the right of the Palestian people to elect whoever they want. Who are you to decide who they should be electing? The idea that Hamas could destroy Israel is ridiculous. Israel has every sort of weapon you can imagine (including nuclear) whereas the Palestians have pea shooters by comparison. Yet Israel is threatened? If they stopped occupying great stretches of land containing millions of people that might be a "practical solution". The fact is Hamas does not control Gaza. Israel does. Israel decides every little thing that comes in and out of Gaza and bombs and shells it whenever it wants to, which is increasingly often. Hamas controls it in the same way that the toughest prisoners control the prisons, but the prison warders decide nearly everything the prisoners can do. Are you happy that over a million people are being bombed and shelled as we write? In the Second World War the Germans had a policy of killing 100 people in the occupied territories for every one of theres that got killed. It may be by different methods but that is exactly the ratio of fatalities in the Israeli occupied territories. And it hasn't just been for four years like the Germans - it has been for more than 40 years. Carrying on buying your fruit from Israel if you like but for me it would taste of the blood of Palestinian children blown up on a beach by Isareli guns and I could not eat it and not feel sick. I think if I address your points in this post I'd be repeating myself. I've pretty much typed about all the issues you refer to. In short I'm pretty much in direct opposition to your whole one eyed presentation of this conflict.....Especially in relation to Hamas. And like Hamas and Israel, we don't really have anything constructive to talk about.
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davidpercival

Croydon 23 Jul 14 8.56pm

I am quite offended. Sterling seems happy to continue to bandy words with you other Hamas lovers out there but he has finished with me.

Fair play, he is a bit outnumbered by the look of it, and his typing fingers must be worn out defending the indefensible.

Quote Stirlingsays at 21 Jul 2014 9.59pm

Quote davidpercival at 21 Jul 2014 9.06pm

They have had 47 years years to listen. How much longer do you expect the Palestinians to take it? What do you see as a "practical solution" to the problem?

Because of Israel's actions over the past decades, Fatah and Hamas have agreed to have a coalition government, and it is the right of the Palestian people to elect whoever they want.

Who are you to decide who they should be electing?

The idea that Hamas could destroy Israel is ridiculous. Israel has every sort of weapon you can imagine (including nuclear) whereas the Palestians have pea shooters by comparison. Yet Israel is threatened? If they stopped occupying great stretches of land containing millions of people that might be a "practical solution".

The fact is Hamas does not control Gaza. Israel does. Israel decides every little thing that comes in and out of Gaza and bombs and shells it whenever it wants to, which is increasingly often. Hamas controls it in the same way that the toughest prisoners control the prisons, but the prison warders decide nearly everything the prisoners can do.

Are you happy that over a million people are being bombed and shelled as we write?

In the Second World War the Germans had a policy of killing 100 people in the occupied territories for every one of theres that got killed. It may be by different methods but that is exactly the ratio of fatalities in the Israeli occupied territories. And it hasn't just been for four years like the Germans - it has been for more than 40 years.

Carrying on buying your fruit from Israel if you like but for me it would taste of the blood of Palestinian children blown up on a beach by Isareli guns and I could not eat it and not feel sick.

I think if I address your points in this post I'd be repeating myself. I've pretty much typed about all the issues you refer to.

In short I'm pretty much in direct opposition to your whole one eyed presentation of this conflict.....Especially in relation to Hamas.

And like Hamas and Israel, we don't really have anything constructive to talk about.

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Stirlingsays 23 Jul 14 9.13pm
Quote davidpercival at 23 Jul 2014 8.56pm I am quite offended. Sterling seems happy to continue to bandy words with you other Hamas lovers out there but he has finished with me. Fair play, he is a bit outnumbered by the look of it, and his typing fingers must be worn out defending the indefensible. Fair enough you're right on that score....There are so many of you Hamas loving rocket justifying lefties that I should probably include you as well. I don't defend the indefensible. I haven't defended you once. ps.....Spell my bleeding name right or I'll come over there and paint a star of David on your door. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Jul 2014 9.15pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

23 Jul 14 9.13pm

Quote davidpercival at 23 Jul 2014 8.56pm

I am quite offended. Sterling seems happy to continue to bandy words with you other Hamas lovers out there but he has finished with me.

Fair play, he is a bit outnumbered by the look of it, and his typing fingers must be worn out defending the indefensible.

Fair enough you're right on that score....There are so many of you Hamas loving rocket justifying lefties that I should probably include you as well.

I don't defend the indefensible.

I haven't defended you once.

ps.....Spell my bleeding name right or I'll come over there and paint a star of David on your door.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Jul 2014 9.15pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 23 Jul 14 9.35pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 23 Jul 2014 9.13pm Quote davidpercival at 23 Jul 2014 8.56pm I am quite offended. Sterling seems happy to continue to bandy words with you other Hamas lovers out there but he has finished with me. Fair play, he is a bit outnumbered by the look of it, and his typing fingers must be worn out defending the indefensible. Fair enough you're right on that score....There are so many of you Hamas loving rocket justifying lefties that I should probably include you as well. I don't defend the indefensible. I haven't defended you once. ps.....Spell my bleeding name right or I'll come over there and paint a star of David on your door. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Jul 2014 9.15pm) You. Must. Not. Bite. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Quote Stirlingsays at 23 Jul 2014 9.13pm

Quote davidpercival at 23 Jul 2014 8.56pm

I am quite offended. Sterling seems happy to continue to bandy words with you other Hamas lovers out there but he has finished with me.

Fair play, he is a bit outnumbered by the look of it, and his typing fingers must be worn out defending the indefensible.

Fair enough you're right on that score....There are so many of you Hamas loving rocket justifying lefties that I should probably include you as well.

I don't defend the indefensible.

I haven't defended you once.

ps.....Spell my bleeding name right or I'll come over there and paint a star of David on your door.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Jul 2014 9.15pm)

You. Must. Not. Bite.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Jul 14 3.53pm
Netanyahu has admitted he doesn't want a sovereign Palestinian state. This makes him no better than Hamas! [Link]
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 24 Jul 14 3.53pm

Netanyahu has admitted he doesn't want a sovereign Palestinian state. This makes him no better than Hamas!
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 24 Jul 14 5.00pm
Quote nickgusset at 24 Jul 2014 3.53pm Netanyahu has admitted he doesn't want a sovereign Palestinian state. This makes him no better than Hamas! [Link] Or Hitler Israel is inflicting its own holocaust on Palestinians,...and the world watches "The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak
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Forest Hillbilly

in a hidey-hole 24 Jul 14 5.00pm

Quote nickgusset at 24 Jul 2014 3.53pm

Netanyahu has admitted he doesn't want a sovereign Palestinian state. This makes him no better than Hamas!
[Link]

Or Hitler

Israel is inflicting its own holocaust on Palestinians,...and the world watches

"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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Kermit8 Hevon 24 Jul 14 7.25pm
UN areas in Gaza are no safer than other places [Link] War crimes and inhumane actions by the Israeli Government. Not that they will give a toss what the outside world thinks. Nasty lot they are that need putting down. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Kermit8

Hevon 24 Jul 14 7.25pm

UN areas in Gaza are no safer than other places

[Link]

War crimes and inhumane actions by the Israeli Government. Not that they will give a toss what the outside world thinks. Nasty lot they are that need putting down.

Big chest and massive boobs

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legaleagle 24 Jul 14 10.01pm
Washington Post 22 July: BERLIN — The foreign ministers of Germany, France and Italy on Tuesday condemned the rise in anti-Semitic protests and violence over the conflict in Gaza, saying they will do everything possible to combat it in their countries. “Anti-Semitic rhetoric and hostility against Jews, attacks on people of Jewish belief and synagogues have no place in our societies,” German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, France’s Laurent Fabius and Italy’s Federica Mogherini said in a joint statement issued in Brussels. The three said that while they respect demonstrators’ freedom of speech and right to assemble, they will also do everything possible to fight “acts and statements that cross the line to anti-Semitism, racism and xenophobia.” Since the outbreak of violence between Israel and Hamas, participants at anti-Israel demonstrations across Germany have frequently used anti-Semitic slogans and also called for Jews to be gassed — a reference to the killing of Jews by the Nazis in the Holocaust. ...In France, pro-Palestinian youths have clashed repeatedly with police, and on Sunday set fire to cars, pillaged stores and attacked two synagogues in the Paris suburbs.
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24 Jul 14 10.01pm

Washington Post 22 July:

BERLIN — The foreign ministers of Germany, France and Italy on Tuesday condemned the rise in anti-Semitic protests and violence over the conflict in Gaza, saying they will do everything possible to combat it in their countries.

“Anti-Semitic rhetoric and hostility against Jews, attacks on people of Jewish belief and synagogues have no place in our societies,” German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, France’s Laurent Fabius and Italy’s Federica Mogherini said in a joint statement issued in Brussels.

The three said that while they respect demonstrators’ freedom of speech and right to assemble, they will also do everything possible to fight “acts and statements that cross the line to anti-Semitism, racism and xenophobia.”

Since the outbreak of violence between Israel and Hamas, participants at anti-Israel demonstrations across Germany have frequently used anti-Semitic slogans and also called for Jews to be gassed — a reference to the killing of Jews by the Nazis in the Holocaust.

...In France, pro-Palestinian youths have clashed repeatedly with police, and on Sunday set fire to cars, pillaged stores and attacked two synagogues in the Paris suburbs.

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Stirlingsays 24 Jul 14 10.50pm
Does supporting Hamas firing rockets count as anti semitism? I don't support any firing onto UN facilities but the situation here is unclear. Yet the usual suspects are fully in 'minds made up mode' and have their Hamas loving in top gear. This organisation rejected a cease firs a week ago. They apparently store arms at UN locations.....Apparently fire from them. Would Hamas engineer this by bringing the fight here for maximum publicity?.....It certainty gets their supporters foaming at the mouth. What happened here isn't clear.......But I do know the people continuing this fight are Hamas by rejecting an Arab league cease fire. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

24 Jul 14 10.50pm

Does supporting Hamas firing rockets count as anti semitism?

I don't support any firing onto UN facilities but the situation here is unclear.

Yet the usual suspects are fully in 'minds made up mode' and have their Hamas loving in top gear.

This organisation rejected a cease firs a week ago. They apparently store arms at UN locations.....Apparently fire from them.

Would Hamas engineer this by bringing the fight here for maximum publicity?.....It certainty gets their supporters foaming at the mouth.

What happened here isn't clear.......But I do know the people continuing this fight are Hamas by rejecting an Arab league cease fire.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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corkery Cork City 24 Jul 14 10.56pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Jul 2014 10.50pm What happened here isn't clear.......But I do know the people continuing this fight are Hamas by rejecting an Arab league cease fire. I wouldn't accept it either. Some man called David decided thousands of years ago that this was their Holy land, then they all hop in and take land that isn't theres. Killing civilians will only make the matter worse. We'll never die
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corkery

Cork City 24 Jul 14 10.56pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Jul 2014 10.50pm

What happened here isn't clear.......But I do know the people continuing this fight are Hamas by rejecting an Arab league cease fire.

I wouldn't accept it either. Some man called David decided thousands of years ago that this was their Holy land, then they all hop in and take land that isn't theres. Killing civilians will only make the matter worse.

We'll never die

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