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Pussay Patrol 29 Nov 12 2.05pm
Quote Rudi Hedman at 29 Nov 2012 9.20am Quote Pussay Patrol at 28 Nov 2012 10.56pm Quote Rudi Hedman at 28 Nov 2012 10.25pm Quote CharlieCPFC at 28 Nov 2012 10.21pm Not a serious gambler, just like a bit of fun on a Saturday. To be fair going for easy doubles each night is a sensible way of building up. For Saturday though I fancy QPR to beat Villa - (1/1) Watford to beat Barnsley - (4/6) Arsenal to beat Swansea (2/5) Palace to beat Brighton (6/5) Millwall to beat Charlton (6/5) Odds of 19.53 Stick a tenner on that and see what happens. Good selections, I like 'em, but I personally wouldn't go for the derbies. Even though it's a bit of fun, probably better to go in a bit larger for 3 fav's and then a smaller stake on those 3 + 2. Everyone has their method however. You could perm 4 out of 5, 5 fourfolds, 1 fivefold. 6 bets. To make this simple, say if you got odds of 10/1 for a 5 games 5fold (which is likely with evens teams), what odds do you reckon you'll get on a 4 of 5 perm? Probably half? So, to keep it simple, say if you stake £10... How much do you reckon you'd get in return if 4 won and not the longest odds team and how much do you reckon you'd get in return if 4 won and the shortest odds team lost? I've made the question simple by just making one team losing... £1.66 per bet. Is it: Say the 4 out of 4 are around 8/1. Half that for a 4 of 5 perm. 4 x £1.66 = £6.66 x 4 or 5? Plus the possible 5 out of 5 of 5/1 x £1.66 = £8.33? Possibly 4 x £6.66 = £26.66 ? or Possibly 5 x £6.66 + £8.33 = £41.66 ? And what about stake back? Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Nov 2012 9.39am) No. If you back 5 selections at even money for £10 you would win £320 4 selections would be £160 So your outlay would be £60 and you would win either £0.......0,1,2,3 correct £160.....4 correct £1,120...5 correct Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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29 Nov 12 2.05pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 29 Nov 2012 9.20am

Quote Pussay Patrol at 28 Nov 2012 10.56pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 28 Nov 2012 10.25pm

Quote CharlieCPFC at 28 Nov 2012 10.21pm

Not a serious gambler, just like a bit of fun on a Saturday. To be fair going for easy doubles each night is a sensible way of building up.

For Saturday though I fancy

QPR to beat Villa - (1/1)
Watford to beat Barnsley - (4/6)
Arsenal to beat Swansea (2/5)
Palace to beat Brighton (6/5)
Millwall to beat Charlton (6/5)

Odds of 19.53

Stick a tenner on that and see what happens.

Good selections, I like 'em, but I personally wouldn't go for the derbies. Even though it's a bit of fun, probably better to go in a bit larger for 3 fav's and then a smaller stake on those 3 + 2. Everyone has their method however.

You could perm 4 out of 5, 5 fourfolds, 1 fivefold.

6 bets.

To make this simple, say if you got odds of 10/1 for a 5 games 5fold (which is likely with evens teams), what odds do you reckon you'll get on a 4 of 5 perm? Probably half? So, to keep it simple, say if you stake £10...

How much do you reckon you'd get in return if 4 won and not the longest odds team and how much do you reckon you'd get in return if 4 won and the shortest odds team lost? I've made the question simple by just making one team losing...

£1.66 per bet. Is it:

Say the 4 out of 4 are around 8/1. Half that for a 4 of 5 perm. 4 x £1.66 = £6.66 x 4 or 5?
Plus the possible 5 out of 5 of 5/1 x £1.66 = £8.33?

Possibly 4 x £6.66 = £26.66 ? or
Possibly 5 x £6.66 + £8.33 = £41.66 ?

And what about stake back?

Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Nov 2012 9.39am)

No. If you back 5 selections at even money for £10 you would win £320

4 selections would be £160

So your outlay would be £60 and you would win either

£0.......0,1,2,3 correct
£160.....4 correct
£1,120...5 correct

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Nov 12 2.11pm
Quote Pussay Patrol at 29 Nov 2012 2.05pm Quote Rudi Hedman at 29 Nov 2012 9.20am Quote Pussay Patrol at 28 Nov 2012 10.56pm Quote Rudi Hedman at 28 Nov 2012 10.25pm Quote CharlieCPFC at 28 Nov 2012 10.21pm Not a serious gambler, just like a bit of fun on a Saturday. To be fair going for easy doubles each night is a sensible way of building up. For Saturday though I fancy QPR to beat Villa - (1/1) Watford to beat Barnsley - (4/6) Arsenal to beat Swansea (2/5) Palace to beat Brighton (6/5) Millwall to beat Charlton (6/5) Odds of 19.53 Stick a tenner on that and see what happens. Good selections, I like 'em, but I personally wouldn't go for the derbies. Even though it's a bit of fun, probably better to go in a bit larger for 3 fav's and then a smaller stake on those 3 + 2. Everyone has their method however. You could perm 4 out of 5, 5 fourfolds, 1 fivefold. 6 bets. To make this simple, say if you got odds of 10/1 for a 5 games 5fold (which is likely with evens teams), what odds do you reckon you'll get on a 4 of 5 perm? Probably half? So, to keep it simple, say if you stake £10... How much do you reckon you'd get in return if 4 won and not the longest odds team and how much do you reckon you'd get in return if 4 won and the shortest odds team lost? I've made the question simple by just making one team losing... £1.66 per bet. Is it: Say the 4 out of 4 are around 8/1. Half that for a 4 of 5 perm. 4 x £1.66 = £6.66 x 4 or 5? Plus the possible 5 out of 5 of 5/1 x £1.66 = £8.33? Possibly 4 x £6.66 = £26.66 ? or Possibly 5 x £6.66 + £8.33 = £41.66 ? And what about stake back? Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Nov 2012 9.39am) No. If you back 5 selections at even money for £10 you would win £320 4 selections would be £160 So your outlay would be £60 and you would win either £0.......0,1,2,3 correct £160.....4 correct £1,120...5 correct I meant 6 bets x £1.66 = £10 stake. Anyway, now you're talking total stake of £60 (6 x £10 bets), it's probably easier to follow. I agree on the £160.....4 correct, but not on the £1,120...5 correct. All 5 results being correct (5 teams of your choice winning), aren't you more likely to win about £350 ish? £1,120 is about 19/1 on an or/if sort of bet that is only 10/1 on a fivefold accumulator of 5 selections. i.e - doesn't make sense. COYP
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Caterham 29 Nov 12 2.11pm

Quote Pussay Patrol at 29 Nov 2012 2.05pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 29 Nov 2012 9.20am

Quote Pussay Patrol at 28 Nov 2012 10.56pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 28 Nov 2012 10.25pm

Quote CharlieCPFC at 28 Nov 2012 10.21pm

Not a serious gambler, just like a bit of fun on a Saturday. To be fair going for easy doubles each night is a sensible way of building up.

For Saturday though I fancy

QPR to beat Villa - (1/1)
Watford to beat Barnsley - (4/6)
Arsenal to beat Swansea (2/5)
Palace to beat Brighton (6/5)
Millwall to beat Charlton (6/5)

Odds of 19.53

Stick a tenner on that and see what happens.

You could perm 4 out of 5, 5 fourfolds, 1 fivefold.

6 bets.

£1.66 per bet. Is it:

Say the 4 out of 4 are around 8/1. Half that for a 4 of 5 perm. 4 x £1.66 = £6.66 x 4 or 5?
Plus the possible 5 out of 5 of 5/1 x £1.66 = £8.33?

Possibly 4 x £6.66 = £26.66 ? or
Possibly 5 x £6.66 + £8.33 = £41.66 ?

And what about stake back?

Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Nov 2012 9.39am)

No. If you back 5 selections at even money for £10 you would win £320

4 selections would be £160

So your outlay would be £60 and you would win either

£0.......0,1,2,3 correct
£160.....4 correct
£1,120...5 correct

I meant 6 bets x £1.66 = £10 stake.

Anyway, now you're talking total stake of £60 (6 x £10 bets), it's probably easier to follow.

I agree on the £160.....4 correct, but not on the
£1,120...5 correct.

All 5 results being correct (5 teams of your choice winning), aren't you more likely to win about £350 ish? £1,120 is about 19/1 on an or/if sort of bet that is only 10/1 on a fivefold accumulator of 5 selections. i.e - doesn't make sense.

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Pussay Patrol 29 Nov 12 5.00pm
it's 5 x £160 = £800 + £320 = £1,120 6 bets, 6 wins Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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29 Nov 12 5.00pm

it's 5 x £160 = £800

+ £320 = £1,120

6 bets, 6 wins

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Nov 12 5.12pm
Quote Pussay Patrol at 29 Nov 2012 5.00pm it's 5 x £160 = £800 + £320 = £1,120 6 bets, 6 wins Firstly you've said the stake is £60 (6 x £10). Now you're telling me because there's a £1,120 win, the stake is £800. What is your stake for this bet? This has muddled somewhere. 1. What is the stake? 2. What is the win for 4 fourfold's out of 5 correct? 3. What is the win for 5 fourfold's out of 5 correct AND obviously all 5 correct? COYP
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Caterham 29 Nov 12 5.12pm

Quote Pussay Patrol at 29 Nov 2012 5.00pm

it's 5 x £160 = £800

+ £320 = £1,120

6 bets, 6 wins

Firstly you've said the stake is £60 (6 x £10). Now you're telling me because there's a £1,120 win, the stake is £800.

What is your stake for this bet? This has muddled somewhere.

1. What is the stake?
2. What is the win for 4 fourfold's out of 5 correct?
3. What is the win for 5 fourfold's out of 5 correct AND obviously all 5 correct?

COYP

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StainesPalace Staines 29 Nov 12 6.25pm
Quote Rudi Hedman at 28 Nov 2012 9.56pm Quote StainesPalace at 28 Nov 2012 5.37pm Manchester double. Only 0.76/1 but easy money. Thats my bet tonite, throw in Southampton or Stoke if you want a treble Well done. When Stoke went 0-1 down I told myself this would've been the bet I would've gone for in a week with no tempters in. However, for some reason I also didn't go for Celtic and didn't go for West Brom peaking and losing to Swansea away midweek. Easy money. I settled for just the double in the end but put £50 on it!
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Staines 29 Nov 12 6.25pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 28 Nov 2012 9.56pm

Quote StainesPalace at 28 Nov 2012 5.37pm

Manchester double. Only 0.76/1 but easy money. Thats my bet tonite, throw in Southampton or Stoke if you want a treble

Well done. When Stoke went 0-1 down I told myself this would've been the bet I would've gone for in a week with no tempters in. However, for some reason I also didn't go for Celtic and didn't go for West Brom peaking and losing to Swansea away midweek.

Easy money. I settled for just the double in the end but put £50 on it!

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Pussay Patrol 29 Nov 12 7.35pm
Quote Rudi Hedman at 29 Nov 2012 5.12pm Quote Pussay Patrol at 29 Nov 2012 5.00pm it's 5 x £160 = £800 + £320 = £1,120 6 bets, 6 wins Firstly you've said the stake is £60 (6 x £10). Now you're telling me because there's a £1,120 win, the stake is £800. What is your stake for this bet? This has muddled somewhere. 1. What is the stake? 2. What is the win for 4 fourfold's out of 5 correct? 3. What is the win for 5 fourfold's out of 5 correct AND obviously all 5 correct? Is this a wind up? 1. What is the stake? £60 (6 x £10) 2. What is the win for 4 fourfold's out of 5 correct? £640 - but you can only get 1 right or all 5 because if you get one wrong it will kill 5 of your bets 3. What is the win for 5 fourfold's out of 5 correct AND obviously all 5 correct? £1,120 Edited by Pussay Patrol (29 Nov 2012 7.40pm) Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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29 Nov 12 7.35pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 29 Nov 2012 5.12pm

Quote Pussay Patrol at 29 Nov 2012 5.00pm

it's 5 x £160 = £800

+ £320 = £1,120

6 bets, 6 wins

Firstly you've said the stake is £60 (6 x £10). Now you're telling me because there's a £1,120 win, the stake is £800.

What is your stake for this bet? This has muddled somewhere.

1. What is the stake?
2. What is the win for 4 fourfold's out of 5 correct?
3. What is the win for 5 fourfold's out of 5 correct AND obviously all 5 correct?

Is this a wind up?

1. What is the stake? £60 (6 x £10)
2. What is the win for 4 fourfold's out of 5 correct? £640 - but you can only get 1 right or all 5 because if you get one wrong it will kill 5 of your bets
3. What is the win for 5 fourfold's out of 5 correct AND obviously all 5 correct? £1,120

Edited by Pussay Patrol (29 Nov 2012 7.40pm)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Nov 12 9.35pm
Quote Pussay Patrol at 29 Nov 2012 7.35pm Quote Rudi Hedman at 29 Nov 2012 5.12pm Quote Pussay Patrol at 29 Nov 2012 5.00pm it's 5 x £160 = £800 + £320 = £1,120 6 bets, 6 wins Firstly you've said the stake is £60 (6 x £10). Now you're telling me because there's a £1,120 win, the stake is £800. What is your stake for this bet? This has muddled somewhere. 1. What is the stake? 2. What is the win for 4 fourfold's out of 5 correct? 3. What is the win for 5 fourfold's out of 5 correct AND obviously all 5 correct? Is this a wind up? 1. What is the stake? £60 (6 x £10) 2. What is the win for 4 fourfold's out of 5 correct? £640 - but you can only get 1 right or all 5 because if you get one wrong it will kill 5 of your bets 3. What is the win for 5 fourfold's out of 5 correct AND obviously all 5 correct? £1,120 Edited by Pussay Patrol (29 Nov 2012 7.40pm) Well I agree with what you've said with the 1 wrong result killing 4 of the 5 bets, but what you said in 2 separate posts wasn't making sense together. Plus I'm talking about 8/1 on a normal 5 from 5 and what you've said is 19/1 if all 5 come in. i.e - not gonna happen. The possibilities, as you know, are: 1,2,3,4 1,2,3,5 1,2,4,5 1,3,4,5 2,3,4,5 1,2,3,4,5 What I'm trying to get at is how do you get to those winnings? You must be looking at some seriously high odds because on your 4 from 5 it works out at 19 times return of your stake for all 5 to come in on a £60 bet to return £1,120. Those same 5 results on a normal fivefold (all 5 only or nothing) must be nearer 32/1, therefore the individual choices must be unfavoured. I am looking at shorter bets on football matches. I am betting on 5 matches with odds of 8/1, give or take a little, out to 12/1, on all 5 to come in, if I'm looking at a 5fold. If I bet £60 and win at 8/1, I win £480 + stake back. If I go for a 4 from 5 perm and bet 6 x £10 (£60 stake), what do you think I get back for 1 right or all 5 bets right? That is going to be more like £300 max, zero minimum, or a small return of under or over £60, depending on the choices that win. Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Nov 2012 10.37pm) COYP
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Caterham 29 Nov 12 9.35pm

Quote Pussay Patrol at 29 Nov 2012 7.35pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 29 Nov 2012 5.12pm

Quote Pussay Patrol at 29 Nov 2012 5.00pm

it's 5 x £160 = £800

+ £320 = £1,120

6 bets, 6 wins

Firstly you've said the stake is £60 (6 x £10). Now you're telling me because there's a £1,120 win, the stake is £800.

What is your stake for this bet? This has muddled somewhere.

1. What is the stake?
2. What is the win for 4 fourfold's out of 5 correct?
3. What is the win for 5 fourfold's out of 5 correct AND obviously all 5 correct?

Is this a wind up?

Edited by Pussay Patrol (29 Nov 2012 7.40pm)

Well I agree with what you've said with the 1 wrong result killing 4 of the 5 bets, but what you said in 2 separate posts wasn't making sense together. Plus I'm talking about 8/1 on a normal 5 from 5 and what you've said is 19/1 if all 5 come in. i.e - not gonna happen. The possibilities, as you know, are:

1,2,3,4
1,2,3,5
1,2,4,5
1,3,4,5
2,3,4,5
1,2,3,4,5

What I'm trying to get at is how do you get to those winnings? You must be looking at some seriously high odds because on your 4 from 5 it works out at 19 times return of your stake for all 5 to come in on a £60 bet to return £1,120. Those same 5 results on a normal fivefold (all 5 only or nothing) must be nearer 32/1, therefore the individual choices must be unfavoured.

I am looking at shorter bets on football matches. I am betting on 5 matches with odds of 8/1, give or take a little, out to 12/1, on all 5 to come in, if I'm looking at a 5fold.

If I bet £60 and win at 8/1, I win £480 + stake back. If I go for a 4 from 5 perm and bet 6 x £10 (£60 stake), what do you think I get back for 1 right or all 5 bets right? That is going to be more like £300 max, zero minimum, or a small return of under or over £60, depending on the choices that win.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Nov 2012 10.37pm)

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NI_palace_fan Newtownards 30 Nov 12 1.23pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'friday ?' by Moose i have gone for middlesborough 13/8 and brentford 6/5 double. if this wins do a double tomorrow with the winnings. need ideas of teams for tomorrow? SORRY TITLE SHOULD BE FRIDAY FLUTTER Edited by NI_palace_fan (30 Nov 2012 1.26pm)
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Newtownards 30 Nov 12 1.23pm

This post has been merged from a topic called 'friday ?' by Moose

i have gone for middlesborough 13/8 and brentford 6/5 double. if this wins do a double tomorrow with the winnings. need ideas of teams for tomorrow?

SORRY TITLE SHOULD BE FRIDAY FLUTTER

Edited by NI_palace_fan (30 Nov 2012 1.26pm)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Nov 12 1.32pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Flutter weekend 01.12.12 - No CPFC !' by Moose Treble (Friday) of:- Ukranian Prem League- Dynamo Kiev win 2/9 at FC Hoverla Uzhorod (KO 2pm UK) Shakhtar Donetsk win 1/6 at Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih Croatian - Dynamo Zagreb win 1/4 vs FC Lokomotiva = 0.78/1 COYP
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Caterham 30 Nov 12 1.32pm

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Treble (Friday) of:-

Ukranian Prem League-
Dynamo Kiev win 2/9 at FC Hoverla Uzhorod (KO 2pm UK)
Shakhtar Donetsk win 1/6 at Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih

Croatian -
Dynamo Zagreb win 1/4 vs FC Lokomotiva

= 0.78/1

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Nov 12 1.38pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Flutter weekend 01.12.12 - No CPFC !' by Moose Premier League Treble (Sat):- Arsenal 4/9 win vs Swansea Man City 1/2 win vs Everton Man Utd 2/5 win at Reading = 2/1 COYP
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Caterham 30 Nov 12 1.38pm

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Premier League Treble (Sat):-

Arsenal 4/9 win vs Swansea
Man City 1/2 win vs Everton
Man Utd 2/5 win at Reading

= 2/1

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Nov 12 1.41pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Flutter weekend 01.12.12 - No CPFC !' by Moose Fivefold:- Arsenal 4/9 win vs Swansea Man City 1/2 win vs Everton Man Utd 2/5 win at Reading Watford 8/11 win vs Barnsley Cardiff 8/13 win vs Sheffield Wednesday (Sun 3pm) = 7.46/1 COYP
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Fivefold:-

Arsenal 4/9 win vs Swansea
Man City 1/2 win vs Everton
Man Utd 2/5 win at Reading

Watford 8/11 win vs Barnsley
Cardiff 8/13 win vs Sheffield Wednesday (Sun 3pm)

= 7.46/1

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Nov 12 1.44pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Flutter weekend 01.12.12 - No CPFC !' by Moose Championship double:- Watford 8/11 win vs Barnsley Cardiff 8/13 win vs Sheffield Wednesday (Sun 3pm) = 1.8/1 (May look at others after looking at players unavailable Sat morning) Bolton win 4/6 vs Ipswich screams out making a treble of 3.65/1 COYP
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Championship double:-

Watford 8/11 win vs Barnsley
Cardiff 8/13 win vs Sheffield Wednesday (Sun 3pm)

= 1.8/1

(May look at others after looking at players unavailable Sat morning)

Bolton win 4/6 vs Ipswich screams out making a treble of 3.65/1

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