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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Pènge 01 Feb 13 5.14pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Dawn raids seem a bit OTT if true. However, the blokes in the front row of Block A/B are unnecessarily confrontational to the stewards. The wearing of black as a uniform is interesting and I can't help think they are playing on having some notoriety - with statements like this, having wording like 'lads', blacking out faces - and like the ultras in the Continent who are 'actual' hoolies. I think HF have a bit of an identity crisis on this front. I can understand if they are some kind of Palace Youth but I'm not sure that's the case as real mobs think they are a joke. Will be interesting to see how the group evolves but int he meantime, I'm enjoying the improvement to the atmosphere they bring.

 


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Anyone who is behind palace, part timer, Nigel, HF, families etc should stick together. I'm a lawyer, not criminal, but know enough to know that there are occasions where there is gross overreaction from the police, but equally how hard it is to get warrants etc.

It sounds to me like there is a mix of police being over the top as well as a lot more to it in terms of the raids.

Police don't understand the law all too often, anyone wanting informal help can PM me. But this is something that needs to be pursued by individuals involved otherwise we are speculating on half the story which never helps.

Roll on tomorrow

 

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Quote Jasmine at 01 Feb 2013 4.51pm

I can never understand the bunch of kids thing??
They must have been less than 10 when they started the group then if they are still kids 8 years on.

Anyway back on topic, Good to see the Chairman have read the statement and looks like they are helping those involved.


It's the sort of stereotype which supporters - including a surprising number of our own - are comforted by. That whole 'I don't really understand them so they must be up to no good' attitude is odd, and the number of assumptions on what goes on in Block B and in the group on here is quite astonishing.

 


If something can't be described in plain English, maybe you shouldn't base an entire society on it. Just saying.

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Lets face it football suppoters are an easy target for the police these days. They get shown the race card any time they mess with the ethnic minority. They are closly monitered by human rights organisations. But football fans are fair game. I've seen some heavy handed policing at many grounds over the years.

 

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Quote Mitcham Eagle at 01 Feb 2013 6.12pm

Lets face it football suppoters are an easy target for the police these days. They get shown the race card any time they mess with the ethnic minority. They are closly monitered by human rights organisations. But football fans are fair game. I've seen some heavy handed policing at many grounds over the years.


Good post fella.
Football fans are still treated like scum and the sentences and bans handed out to football supporters don't seem in line with rest of offences say committed outside of football.
The home match against the Weed last year I was shoved from one side of the road to the other for waiting for a friend outside the clifton by a bonehead in riot gear.
Anyone who thinks the old bill treat football supporters with respect needs a lobotomy .

 


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Quote goodersgold at 01 Feb 2013 6.37pm

Quote Mitcham Eagle at 01 Feb 2013 6.12pm

Lets face it football suppoters are an easy target for the police these days. They get shown the race card any time they mess with the ethnic minority. They are closly monitered by human rights organisations. But football fans are fair game. I've seen some heavy handed policing at many grounds over the years.


Good post fella.
Football fans are still treated like scum and the sentences and bans handed out to football supporters don't seem in line with rest of offences say committed outside of football.
The home match against the Weed last year I was shoved from one side of the road to the other for waiting for a friend outside the clifton by a bonehead in riot gear.
Anyone who thinks the old bill treat football supporters with respect needs a lobotomy .


To back up my post a friend of mines brother is a police constable. he told me that some police officers use football matches to in his own words let off some steam after a tough week. That doesn't supprise me.

 

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Quote Cucking Funt at 01 Feb 2013 1.45pm

If it comes down to the HF's or 2010's version of events, I know who I'm going to believe: a group of successful businessmen who've stumped up a lot of their own cash to support the club or a bunch of kids who make a bit of noise and choose to conceal their identity and generally act like they're 'ard. As KBLF said earlier, magistrates' warrants aren't dished out lightly and all this self-righteous 'we're being victimised' crap just doesn't ring true.

A quick gander at the abuse Steve Parrish has been getting on Twitter from the HF and their sympathisers just makes me all the more certain who I'm going to believe.

Well said that man.


 


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Quote Cucking Funt at 01 Feb 2013 1.45pm

If it comes down to the HF's or 2010's version of events, I know who I'm going to believe: a group of successful businessmen who've stumped up a lot of their own cash to support the club or a bunch of kids who make a bit of noise and choose to conceal their identity and generally act like they're 'ard. As KBLF said earlier, magistrates' warrants aren't dished out lightly and all this self-righteous 'we're being victimised' crap just doesn't ring true.

A quick gander at the abuse Steve Parrish has been getting on Twitter from the HF and their sympathisers just makes me all the more certain who I'm going to believe.

Well said that man.



Is this the same HF that needed a police escourt when we played millwall for thier own protection

 

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Quote londonthing98 at 31 Jan 2013 8.49pm

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Quote londonthing98 at 31 Jan 2013 2.31pm

The quicker the HF are quashed, the better.


You're an idiot.

Maybe you need to get yourself a ra-ra skirt and some pom poms and become the first HF Crystal if your such a big fan of them. Plank.


Maybe you need to go grab a prawn sandwich and start watching games in the Emirates. The weekend atmosphere home and away would be nothing without the efforts of the HF and I guarantee more people agree with me than agree with you.

If you've a problem with them go down the front of Block B I'm sure they'd love the feedback.


 

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Quote Jasmine at 01 Feb 2013 4.51pm

I can never understand the bunch of kids thing??
They must have been less than 10 when they started the group then if they are still kids 8 years on.


I think it is a defence mechanism. It's usually other women that act in this way, and that's why I find it odd that some of the older male posters can be so bitchy about younger fans. Maybe it's a jealousy thing?

I'm neither pro or against these hf, to me they're just palace fans like the rest of us.

 

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Quote grump at 01 Feb 2013 2.24pm

Quote Cucking Funt at 01 Feb 2013 1.45pm

If it comes down to the HF's or 2010's version of events, I know who I'm going to believe: a group of successful businessmen who've stumped up a lot of their own cash to support the club or a bunch of kids who make a bit of noise and choose to conceal their identity and generally act like they're 'ard. As KBLF said earlier, magistrates' warrants aren't dished out lightly and all this self-righteous 'we're being victimised' crap just doesn't ring true.

A quick gander at the abuse Steve Parrish has been getting on Twitter from the HF and their sympathisers just makes me all the more certain who I'm going to believe.


Good post Cucking, I've never understood why the HF feel they have to alienate themselves from other Palace fans, surely the point is to get behind the team and make as much noise as possible, not to segregate yourselves like you are something special, thats just eliteist b*llocks.

I have never been bothered by the police in 50 years of supporting Palace because I don't go round trying to p!ss people off.

Stop acting like spoilt children.

An even better post......

 


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i guess we all have our different theories for what is acceptable in terms of showing our support to the club - i remember with fondness the days of getting bladdered before the game, leaping around like a looney, losing my voice due to over-enthusiastic singing and the routine dodgy curry in thornten heath - and now i'm getting on a bit i take my son and behave rather decently. i like the HF and the atmosphere they bring to the games and it's sad to hear some lads are being rudely awoken for petty bollocks. let's try to remember that we all turn up because we share a passion for palace, not so we can slag each other off

 

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