Nail on head. Been thinking the same thing for decades. She was no patriot. She admired the individual dog eat dog way and not the then British sense of community and fair play. She didn't really get us. A few million Brits put her on a pedestal which is simply baffling if you take the unions and Falklands out of the equation and unmask her as she really was. An iniquitous marketeer and a malignant vandal.

She divided us and, for a while, conquered us. Hopefully, her awful legacies - Chavdom , homelessness, crime rates, traffic pollution, love of money at the expense of many, big business having too much influence on Government policy, dumbing down, unemployment and desolation - will be radically reversed. Won't be any time soon though.

Edited by Kermit8 (21 Apr 2013 9.06am)

Every office I've worked in has been full of people from outside London. That's what people do to get good jobs and they love it in the capital. In an ideal world it shouldn't be the case but we don't live in a perfect world, you have to adapt! But Lefties don't want individuals to make their own decisions but instead want the State to organise their lives (job, house) for them. Let's become the Soviet Union.

Edited by Penge Eagle (18 Apr 2013 10.59pm)

I'm willing to bet a 1000 pounds neither Pinky or Mc Kermit move to an Independent Scotland:)

Nail on head. Been thinking the same thing for decades. She was no patriot. She admired the individual dog eat dog way and not the then British sense of community and fair play. She didn't really get us. A few million Brits put her on a pedestal which is simply baffling if you take the unions and Falklands out of the equation and unmask her as she really was. An iniquitous marketeer and a malignant vandal.

She divided us and, for a while, conquered us. Hopefully, her awful legacies which still exist today -Chavdom , higher rates of homelessness, crime rates and traffic pollution; love of money at the expense of many, big business having too much influence on Government policy, dumbing down, unemployment and desolation - will be radically reversed. Won't be any time soon though.

Edited by Kermit8 (21 Apr 2013 11.01am)

If I'm not mistaken you want an independent Scotland Kermy.

In that case how can you talk about how much of a patriot Thatcher was when you're not even a unionist.

Thatcher was very patriotic and it's pure nonsense to mention otherwise. Indeed those who claim otherwise aren't in my view patriotic at all......Most of them I view very suspicously in that regard.

She didn't leave England and pay taxes elsewhere like Blair and some others, despite being wanted in America. She stayed where her heart was.

I hasten to add that's it's valid to work overseas for all sorts of reasons... but for those that decide to stay there and don't intend to come back to settle....Well....I don't like the cake and eat it stuff....If you really love a country you stick with it....As my old Irish mate use to say, plastic paddys are two a dozen.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Apr 2013 5.39pm)