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Quote johnfirewall at 29 Aug 2013 4.18pm

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Quote Beastie at 29 Aug 2013 2.18pm

Has been charged with nine counts of indecent assault and four of making indecent images of children, alleged to have been made last year.

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Never quite sure exactly what they mean by that term.

Is it doctoring pictures, drawing things, taking photos or all of the above?

No rofl for Rolf anyway.

I remember hearing somewhere they wanted to change the law to extend that charge to include bringing the image up on your screen, which I guess is technically the case as it's only bytes of data before it becomes pixels. This may have been on Brasseye though.


The HOL would be deserted if they were able to arrest everyone who did that.

 


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Quote Superfly at 29 Aug 2013 2.28pm

You would have thought that when he was a part of the way through making those images, SOMEONE would've been able to tell what it was


You're wasted on the HOL mate

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 29 Aug 13 4.36pm

Quote Superfly at 29 Aug 2013 2.28pm

You would have thought that when he was a part of the way through making those images, SOMEONE would've been able to tell what it was

Can you tell what it is yet... Six months to two years Rolf, thats what it is.


 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 29 Aug 13 4.45pm

Quote johnfirewall at 29 Aug 2013 4.18pm

Quote Stuk at 29 Aug 2013 2.32pm

Quote Beastie at 29 Aug 2013 2.18pm

Has been charged with nine counts of indecent assault and four of making indecent images of children, alleged to have been made last year.

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Never quite sure exactly what they mean by that term.

Is it doctoring pictures, drawing things, taking photos or all of the above?

No rofl for Rolf anyway.

I remember hearing somewhere they wanted to change the law to extend that charge to include bringing the image up on your screen, which I guess is technically the case as it's only bytes of data before it becomes pixels. This may have been on Brasseye though.

I think it requires that you either record or pass on such data, such as making it available to others. It would be difficult to establish Actus or Mens Rae just because you viewed such material (it could easily be argued to be accidental or none deliberate). Showing deliberation and intention is generally required for a criminal case, along with knowledge of what you were doing.

It is however important that the UK avoids becoming like the US, where the convenience of sexual offences becomes used as a means of moral crusading (where you have people on the sex offenders register for urinating in a public place - as indecent exposure) - Punitive agendas don't really serve the best interests of society when the stray from protection of the vulnerable, to a means of establishing convictions.

Likewise, if a 15 year old sends you nude pictures of herself you could be argued to have committed an offence, even if you reported the offence. Its important to retain a perspective.

Similarly, if an artist paints a picture of a nude child, is it 'making images', if the pursuit is artistic rather than for gratification?


 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 29 Aug 2013 4.45pm

Quote johnfirewall at 29 Aug 2013 4.18pm

Quote Stuk at 29 Aug 2013 2.32pm

Quote Beastie at 29 Aug 2013 2.18pm

Has been charged with nine counts of indecent assault and four of making indecent images of children, alleged to have been made last year.

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Never quite sure exactly what they mean by that term.

Is it doctoring pictures, drawing things, taking photos or all of the above?

No rofl for Rolf anyway.

I remember hearing somewhere they wanted to change the law to extend that charge to include bringing the image up on your screen, which I guess is technically the case as it's only bytes of data before it becomes pixels. This may have been on Brasseye though.

I think it requires that you either record or pass on such data, such as making it available to others. It would be difficult to establish Actus or Mens Rae just because you viewed such material (it could easily be argued to be accidental or none deliberate). Showing deliberation and intention is generally required for a criminal case, along with knowledge of what you were doing.

It is however important that the UK avoids becoming like the US, where the convenience of sexual offences becomes used as a means of moral crusading (where you have people on the sex offenders register for urinating in a public place - as indecent exposure) - Punitive agendas don't really serve the best interests of society when the stray from protection of the vulnerable, to a means of establishing convictions.

Likewise, if a 15 year old sends you nude pictures of herself you could be argued to have committed an offence, even if you reported the offence. Its important to retain a perspective.

Similarly, if an artist paints a picture of a nude child, is it 'making images', if the pursuit is artistic rather than for gratification?



That depends on whether they've been convicted of offences or not, it would seem from this:

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The term is too vague if it's a cover all.

Painting a picture and taking a photograph obviously differ massively, in that one requires a subject and the other doesn't necessitate one. You could just be a sick in the head peado.

 


Optimistic as ever

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To be charged with another 3 sexual assaults on young women and a 7 year old..... He is going down, and I don't mean down under either.

 

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A real shame if proven guilty, he's the only one of the celebs that I can think of that I actually like. I have never met him but know people who have and they have all said was a lovely genuine bloke he is.

However none of them were 7 year old girls when they met him.

 


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Nasty piece of art work. Or at least was.

Came across as a right arrogant self-centred cvnt during the late 50's and 60's when he concentrated more on his UK career than pay due attention to his young family. His daughter hardly knew him. His wife hardly saw him. He didn't seem to care.

All was revealed on that Morgan chat show.

Doesn't surprise me if that Rolf got up to no-good in the swinging sixties. Adults fair enough. But a seven year old kid? Degenerate sh1t. Jail him if guilty. For the rest of his life. He can take the Art Classes for other nonces.

 


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Quote topcat at 23 Dec 2013 7.35am

A real shame if proven guilty, he's the only one of the celebs that I can think of that I actually like. I have never met him but know people who have and they have all said was a lovely genuine bloke he is.

However none of them were 7 year old girls when they met him.


Rolf was charming. But charming people can be the least genuine in reality. They are using that perceived quality to hide their true selves for whatever reason and manipulate others.

 


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How long before the 'liberal/left' start saying pedophiles are only expressing their sexual orientation?Surely, in their untiring quest for 'progressive reform' and 'diversity' they will want 'progress' on this 'human rights' issue?

 

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How long before the 'liberal/left' start saying pedophiles are only expressing their sexual orientation?Surely, in their untiring quest for 'progressive reform' and 'diversity' they will want 'progress' on this 'human rights' issue?


What a strange post. I do hope you are not asking for reasons other than rabble-rousing.

 


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Quote delwboy at 23 Dec 2013 8.25am


How long before the 'liberal/left' start saying pedophiles are only expressing their sexual orientation?Surely, in their untiring quest for 'progressive reform' and 'diversity' they will want 'progress' on this 'human rights' issue?

Don't be ridiculous. Offenders are breaking laws, both national and international, that will never change. If you are comparing this with sexual reform around same sex relationships etc, I would stop now if I were you.

 


Most certainly not European.

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