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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 27 Jan 14 12.21pm

Quote redpalace91 at 27 Jan 2014 9.55am

The only real alternative is that Parish sells the club to a richer owner so we can buy in the players we need. I'm sure Parish is the poorest chairman in the PL by quite some distance but on the other hand the fans like him because he is a supporter himself and wouldn't do anything to damage the club. I don't think we can have it both ways unless some rich billionaire happens to be twiddling his thumbs in Sydenham and wants to take over.

Edited by redpalace91 (27 Jan 2014 9.55am)

I'd rather be owned by a fan than an annonymous billionarire like many other clubs, many of whom seem to be owners of 'questionable moral fortitude'. Theres nothing wrong with being a championship club. I'd rather have character and soul, than money and success.

Especially when that success inevitably squeezes out the very supporters who've spent a life time going to games.

Tourist football is dull, lifeless and meaningless. A plastic facade devoid of the soul of the supporters.

 


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thommo1 Flag Peckham 27 Jan 14 12.22pm

There isn't a store in oxford street labelled quality premiership Footballers and a sub heading reading We have surplus stock and at very cheap prices..

Agents are trying to squeeze as much as there greedy little hands can get right now, as a negotiator SP knows this, This is why so many deals are done at the last minute as the agents think 'well £3 million is better than no deal at all' its just who can keep there nerve and poker face for the longest.

 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Jan 2014 12.21pm

I'd rather be owned by a fan than an annonymous billionarire like many other clubs, many of whom seem to be owners of 'questionable moral fortitude'.

Quite right. It's much better to be owned by upright pillars of society like Ron Noades, Mark Goldberg or Simon Jordan


 

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thommo1 Flag Peckham 27 Jan 14 12.42pm

I suspect the Pullis recruitment interview went something like this

SP- Ok Tone this is us, this is how much money we have in bank and this is your allowance for The Jan window and this is how much we are prepared to spend on a wage, can you work with that yes or no ?

TP- Yes

Sp- Your hired.

From my experience in the Forces and as a businessman when you start to move the goalposts (lol) change the plan through emotions rather than logic, things start to go wrong.. Stick with the plan CPFC2010 your doing a great job.

 


DJ John Peel once said: "Supporting Palace has a certain cult value, like pretending that some Peruvian rock band is the best in the world."

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I still maintain that any frustration coming from Pulis is the result of the market, not anything internally.

I am supremely confident that two things have happened since Pulis arrived:

1) A transfer budget has been established for this window.

2) CPFC2010 have stuck by this agreement.

So Pulis has X amount for transfers, and Y ammount for wages, and all involved feel that they can get some players in that fit this criteria and that will add to the squad.

Phones calls are made, and a club asks for more than X. An agent says his player wants to come and play for us, but wants more than Y.

What's the club to do? In my opinion, do what we assume they are doing; sticking by their guns. TP will surely be frustrated, but I'd say any tabloid stories are putting two and together and getting five. "Palace haven't signed anyone, TP says he's frustrated, so there must be internal issues! Quick, to the printing press!"

What's more frustrating is some fans panicing and pressing their own self-destruct button.

If we reach February 1st with the same squad, then that's the time to discuss how we will fare for the rest of the season. Until then, we should have faith, and ignore the nonsense in the press that is made up of assumptions and guesswork.

 


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Quote thommo1 at 27 Jan 2014 12.42pm

I suspect the Pullis recruitment interview went something like this

SP- Ok Tone this is us, this is how much money we have in bank and this is your allowance for The Jan window and this is how much we are prepared to spend on a wage, can you work with that yes or no ?

TP- Yes

Sp- Your hired.

From my experience in the Forces and as a businessman when you start to move the goalposts (lol) change the plan through emotions rather than logic, things start to go wrong.. Stick with the plan CPFC2010 your doing a great job.


agreed, too many people think about transfers at a very basic level ignoring signing on fee's / length of contract / bonus / team morale = jedi signs a new deal probably highest paid player with the club, SP would have said something along the lines of 'we will offer no more as it will break our wage structure'. End of Jan some guy turns up on double the money and people think this will not affect morale.

Stick to what we are doing and build slowly, we know more than most what going for broke can do.

If we succeed and stay up then we can start to raise the budget in the summer

Edited by Stuart_Eagle (27 Jan 2014 12.50pm)

 


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Quote Ian J at 27 Jan 2014 12.36pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Jan 2014 12.21pm

I'd rather be owned by a fan than an annonymous billionarire like many other clubs, many of whom seem to be owners of 'questionable moral fortitude'.

Quite right. It's much better to be owned by upright pillars of society like Ron Noades, Mark Goldberg or Simon Jordan



May I add Ray Bloye to that list as well..


From Bloye to Noades to Goldberg to Jordan - Its like the 100m relay team from football hell

 


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Quote Ian J at 27 Jan 2014 12.36pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Jan 2014 12.21pm

I'd rather be owned by a fan than an annonymous billionarire like many other clubs, many of whom seem to be owners of 'questionable moral fortitude'.

Quite right. It's much better to be owned by upright pillars of society like Ron Noades, Mark Goldberg or Simon Jordan



May I add Ray Bloye to that list as well..


From Bloye to Noades to Goldberg to Jordan - Its like the 100m relay team from football hell

And yet, some think matching Goldberg and Jordan's "ambition" is the answer now?

I think all of us would do something slightly different to how CPFC2010 do it, but quite frankly we are unbelievably fortunate to be in the position are in now. Grass is greener and all that, not to mention the definition of insanity.


 


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Quote Ian J at 27 Jan 2014 12.36pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Jan 2014 12.21pm

I'd rather be owned by a fan than an annonymous billionarire like many other clubs, many of whom seem to be owners of 'questionable moral fortitude'.

Quite right. It's much better to be owned by upright pillars of society like Ron Noades, Mark Goldberg or Simon Jordan



May I add Ray Bloye to that list as well..


From Bloye to Noades to Goldberg to Jordan - Its like the 100m relay team from football hell


 


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Quote Ian J at 27 Jan 2014 12.36pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Jan 2014 12.21pm

I'd rather be owned by a fan than an annonymous billionarire like many other clubs, many of whom seem to be owners of 'questionable moral fortitude'.

Quite right. It's much better to be owned by upright pillars of society like Ron Noades, Mark Goldberg or Simon Jordan



May I add Ray Bloye to that list as well..


From Bloye to Noades to Goldberg to Jordan - Its like the 100m relay team from football hell

And yet, some think matching Goldberg and Jordan's "ambition" is the answer now?

I think all of us would do something slightly different to how CPFC2010 do it, but quite frankly we are unbelievably fortunate to be in the position are in now. Grass is greener and all that, not to mention the definition of insanity.


Nothing wrong with matching the vision and ambition - its all in the execution and whose hands that is in to deliver...

Bloye had none and was bent as nine pence.

Uncle Rons ambition went as far as the end of his own nose.

Goldie had the vision but not two ha'pennies to rub together and Jordan had the ambition but absolutely clueless in how to deliver it.


 


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Quote The Sash at 27 Jan 2014 1.24pm

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Quote The Sash at 27 Jan 2014 1.12pm

Quote Ian J at 27 Jan 2014 12.36pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Jan 2014 12.21pm

I'd rather be owned by a fan than an annonymous billionarire like many other clubs, many of whom seem to be owners of 'questionable moral fortitude'.

Quite right. It's much better to be owned by upright pillars of society like Ron Noades, Mark Goldberg or Simon Jordan



May I add Ray Bloye to that list as well..


From Bloye to Noades to Goldberg to Jordan - Its like the 100m relay team from football hell

And yet, some think matching Goldberg and Jordan's "ambition" is the answer now?

I think all of us would do something slightly different to how CPFC2010 do it, but quite frankly we are unbelievably fortunate to be in the position are in now. Grass is greener and all that, not to mention the definition of insanity.


Nothing wrong with matching the vision and ambition - its all in the execution and whose hands that is in to deliver...

Bloye had none and was bent as nine pence.

Uncle Rons ambition went as far as the end of his own nose.

Goldie had the vision but not two ha'pennies to rub together and Jordan had the ambition but absolutely clueless in how to deliver it.


Absolutely, but ambition is not synonymous with throwing money at a situation, and a lack of transfer activity so far is not synonymous with a lack of ambition.


 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Jan 2014 12.21pm

I'd rather be owned by a fan than an annonymous billionarire like many other clubs, many of whom seem to be owners of 'questionable moral fortitude'.

Quite right. It's much better to be owned by upright pillars of society like Ron Noades, Mark Goldberg or Simon Jordan



May I add Ray Bloye to that list as well..


From Bloye to Noades to Goldberg to Jordan - Its like the 100m relay team from football hell


I think you miss the point. Yeah, you've come up with a veritable rogues gallery. But at least they seemed human, tangible, characters you could love/hate - not a consortium of steel magnates from the Indian sub-continent who had never even visited Selhurst Park and asked their manager to conduct meetings in Mumbai.

 

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