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View Eagletistical's Profile Eagletistical Flag Hereford 30 Jan 14 12.30am Send a Private Message to Eagletistical Add Eagletistical as a friend

West Brom (3)
Man Utd (1)
Southampton (1)
Chelsea (0)
A Villa (3)
Man City (0)
Liverpool (0)

..... And Away

Arsenal (0)
Everton (0)
Swansea (1)
Sunderland (0)
Newcastle (0)
Cardiff (1)
West Ham (3)
Fulham (1)

This is how I see it at the moment. The only way we can turn a few of those draws and defeats into wins or draws, is by getting a bit more quality and being a bit more clinical going forward. We can't keep relying on stealing a 1-0 win every week because we'll come unstuck eventually. I still think goal difference is going to be massive and it will go to the wire. When do we ever do it easy anyway?!

 

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maximusp80 Flag Newbury 30 Jan 14 1.01am

Well worst case scenario should be 17 points from 45, I think this is within reach, time to put my ear plugs in until the end of the season....I can't fooking bear it!

 

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View thebob's Profile thebob Flag Tatebayashi (from Croydon) 30 Jan 14 1.48am Send a Private Message to thebob Add thebob as a friend

Don't forget "World Cup" effect.

At the end of the season there are going to be big teams, who have already secured places in Europe, but players not wanting an injury before Brazil.

There are also going too be players trying to make a mark, to get selected.

I predict it's going to be a lot more topsy turvy than you would expect in a normal season.

Being a "physical" team will give us an advantage over some of the big boys as the season progresses.

I think we will stay up, but it will take a miracle!

COYP.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 30 Jan 14 9.26am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Quote adrian_ at 29 Jan 2014 2.26pm

Quote silvertop at 29 Jan 2014 2.08pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 29 Jan 2014 11.04am

We don't need 17 points. It's now widely accepted that the safety mark is 38 points and in all probability less. Only 3 teams in the last 10 years, from among 30 relegated, have missed that mark. In the same reason a couple of years ago two went down with 39 (including Ollie's Blackpool team -- in a freak year). And Colin's Sheff Utd. team went down on goal difference with 38. The other 27 sides to reach 38 points all stayed up. Indeed, generally 35 or 36 points will see you safe (not that we'd want to risk it). In some years, 32 would have been enough.

Be clear, this is a freak season at both ends of the table. Things are very compressed. That being the case it is highly likely that it's a year where not many points will be needed to survive as teams will take points off each other. In 2009/10 the three teams that went down had 30, 30, and 19 points. This season could well throw up similarly low totals. If we get to 38 points, we are nailed on to survive. I suspect 35 will be enough.


And I hope this is one of them as this is what I predict our final total will be. I have only predicted 3 wrong in the last few months and those were freaked by weather [toon, canaries] or our outstanding fantastic-ness [Villa]. 17th on G/D is my feeling.

that will give me a heart attack. please please please can we do it easier.......


Er, no. How long have you supported Palace?

 

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View Mr_Flow's Profile Mr_Flow Flag London 30 Jan 14 9.35am Send a Private Message to Mr_Flow Add Mr_Flow as a friend

West Brom (3)
Man Utd (1)
Southampton (1)
Chelsea (0)
A Villa (3)
Man City (0)
Liverpool (3)

..... And Away

Arsenal (0)
Everton (0)
Swansea (1)
Sunderland (0)
Newcastle (1)
Cardiff (1)
West Ham (3)
Fulham (1)


I have a feeling we'll beat one of the top 4 at Selhurst and we usually do well against the scouser so gone for them.

41 points is my prediction.

 

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View dalzini's Profile dalzini Flag 30 Jan 14 9.51am Send a Private Message to dalzini Add dalzini as a friend

We have some tough games at home but at least we are playing the big boys at Selhurst. If we still had to go to the Ettihad, Old Trafford, Anfield etc then we would be highly likely to be coming out of those games with a fat zero in points.

I agree with posters who feel that 35 points or so might be ok, there are so many teams down there and the gulf in class between 1st-9th and 10th-20th is quite apparent this season. Southampton for example are about 5/4 with the bookies to win away at Fulham this weekend!

Cardiff have got so many winnable home games so I think they might be good enough. I think Fulham are going to struggle but there are too many points to play for right to try and estimate end of season points.

Pulis is setting 40 as a target and will ensure we don't relax and aim for that amount. I think if we can beat Villa and WBA at home we have a good chance, if we can nick anything in the other 5 games that's a bonus.

That leaves getting 6-7 points on the road which is achievable. Fulham, West Ham, Cardiff, Sunderland all beatable if they don't show up. Not sure I can handle Craven Cottage us needing a win for survival, hopefully Fulham will already be relegated by then!

Staying Up. Believe.

 

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View HutchTheCrutch's Profile HutchTheCrutch Flag Fetcham 30 Jan 14 10.31am Send a Private Message to HutchTheCrutch Add HutchTheCrutch as a friend

I've put a spreadsheet together showing all the remaining games with a prediction of their outcome, by me, and what the table will look like at the end of season if it goes that way. It's up to date as of last night's results. Happy to share the spready with anyone who wants it.

This is my prediction so far ....

Manchester City 94
Chelsea FC 88
Arsenal FC 88
Liverpool FC 80
Tottenham Hotspur 77
Everton FC 72
Manchester United 70
Newcastle United 56
Southampton FC 52
Aston Villa 43
Norwich City 40
Swansea City 40
Hull City 37
Crystal Palace 36
West Bromwich Albion 31
Stoke City 28
West Ham United 24
Sunderland AFC 24
Fulham FC 23
Cardiff City 21

 

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View Alexi_the_Eagle's Profile Alexi_the_Eagle Flag Newton-le-Willows 30 Jan 14 10.39am Send a Private Message to Alexi_the_Eagle Add Alexi_the_Eagle as a friend

Home:

West Brom (3)
Man Utd (1)
Southampton (1)
Chelsea (0)
Aston Villa (3)
Man City (0)
Liverpool (3)

Away:

Arsenal (0)
Everton (0)
Swansea (1)
Sunderland (3)
Newcastle (0)
Cardiff (1)
West Ham (3)
Fulham (1)

We always seem to beat Liverpool at Selhurst, and i think we might nick a point of Man Ure. 43 points will be enough.

Edited by Alexi_the_Eagle (30 Jan 2014 10.47am)

 


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View deflemonkid's Profile deflemonkid Flag 30 Jan 14 10.41am Send a Private Message to deflemonkid Add deflemonkid as a friend

Quote HutchTheCrutch at 30 Jan 2014 10.31am

I've put a spreadsheet together showing all the remaining games with a prediction of their outcome, by me, and what the table will look like at the end of season if it goes that way. It's up to date as of last night's results. Happy to share the spready with anyone who wants it.

This is my prediction so far ....

Manchester City 94
Chelsea FC 88
Arsenal FC 88
Liverpool FC 80
Tottenham Hotspur 77
Everton FC 72
Manchester United 70
Newcastle United 56
Southampton FC 52
Aston Villa 43
Norwich City 40
Swansea City 40
Hull City 37
Crystal Palace 36
West Bromwich Albion 31
Stoke City 28
West Ham United 24
Sunderland AFC 24
Fulham FC 23
Cardiff City 21


Wow, and i thought i;d put in some nerd work with the survival points over the last 10 yrs :P
Great stuff. Cheers for sharing.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Jan 14 10.45am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Quote HutchTheCrutch at 30 Jan 2014 10.31am

Aston Villa 43
Norwich City 40
Swansea City 40
Hull City 37
Crystal Palace 36
West Bromwich Albion 31
Stoke City 28
West Ham United 24
Sunderland AFC 24
Fulham FC 23
Cardiff City 21


You've got Sunderland, Fulham & Cardiff earning
3 points, 4 points and 3 points from the next 15 games.

Very doubtful. That would mean we'd need to draw with the bottom teams we have to play and survive on about 27.

Try looking at nearer 30 for the bottom 2 teams. If predictions were reliable, people would win 6fold acca's every week. It might work for the Tandridge under 9's 'C' division but not the Prem. Last season in Leagues 1 and 2 the top teams were getting beaten by relegation fighters.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (30 Jan 2014 10.47am)

 


COYP

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View HutchTheCrutch's Profile HutchTheCrutch Flag Fetcham 30 Jan 14 10.55am Send a Private Message to HutchTheCrutch Add HutchTheCrutch as a friend

Lol. Yep, nerd work is a family trait .... Elliott Hutchins is my son and he used to be called 'stato' !

I'm interested to try and get a view from as many people as poss on the resluts for the bottom lot, so pleas play with the spready and let's see if we get a reasonable prediction ...... one that has us staying up of course!

 

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View dalzini's Profile dalzini Flag 30 Jan 14 11.27am Send a Private Message to dalzini Add dalzini as a friend

There is no way Cardiff only get 3 points from them fixtures. I mean they have Norwich at home next and I had that down as 3 points for them alone.

 

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