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View OllieMaidstoneEagle's Profile OllieMaidstoneEagle Flag Maidstone, Kent 18 Feb 14 9.44pm Send a Private Message to OllieMaidstoneEagle Add OllieMaidstoneEagle as a friend

Quote Robbiecpfc at 18 Feb 2014 7.41pm

Quote OllieMaidstoneEagle at 18 Feb 2014 7.25pm

Matt Clarke,goalkeper. Was good for us until(IIRC) he trod on broken glass on a night out and damaged his foot so badly he never played for us again. Ollie's Dad,Ash.


Did he not have to retire due to knee ligament problems?


You may well have be correct Robbie,but pretty sure it was connected to the incident after a night out.Ollie's Dad, Ash.

 


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Quote TulseHillEagle at 18 Feb 2014 9.39pm

Ben Watson.
Poor lad,has just broken his leg in the Wigan vs Barnsley game tonight. Similar injury last year. Pure bad luck.

Poor old Ben, injured again. The only bit lacking in his game was midfield bite, but he was an agressive player at youth level. SaW HIM V lORDSWOOD at 16 and he dominated the middle of the park with his tackling, but I suppose fear of injury inhibited his style. His passing was critisized, but I think this was due to the range and frequency of them. The passes that succeeded were remarkable.
Mabbutt and Elweisse also so unlucky, but they were like that when bought I believe, and the usual clever advice of the Palace staff couldn't make a difference here. Anton Outalowski (remember him?), was a crock, missold by the ooligans at Millwall, who was a hopeless case. He played against Palace and tore us apart. Blinded Palace ,who immedialtly wanted to sign him up. Millwall sure saw their chance!

 

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 19 Feb 14 12.08pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Totally agree re: Martin and Mick Elwiss. The other I'd add to the list, although he did make it a little further than those two, is John Salako. I believe Salad would have had a 50 cap England career minimum were it not for his serious injury. When he was hurt, he was very close to moving to Liverpool which, in my view, would have sprinboarded him to real greatness. He was the really genuine talent in the Bright/Wright/Thomas years.

 


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View Bin Liner's Profile Bin Liner Flag London , Southfields 19 Feb 14 12.17pm Send a Private Message to Bin Liner Add Bin Liner as a friend

I used to feel sorry for Neil Smillie, pacy tricky winger usually confined to the bench and unable to make a first team spot his own.

 


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Quote Bin Liner at 19 Feb 2014 12.17pm

I used to feel sorry for Neil Smillie, pacy tricky winger usually confined to the bench and unable to make a first team spot his own.

One trick pony, though. He could knock the ball past anyone and win a foot race to it but the trouble is, once defenders figure out that's your only move they just play back off you and you cease to be effective. He had a haircut for his time, too!

 


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Quote ianevansleg at 18 Feb 2014 5.32pm

Absolutely bang on about Martin Hinshelwood he was destined for greater things.

two others I really rated Kevin Mabbutt(already mentioned) was on the verge of a 200k move to Arsenal(big money then) when he done his knee.

The other one of course is Mike Elweiss who scored some fantastic goals Newcastle and Leicester come to mind in our 78/79 promotion. I was at Cambridge when he got injured in the December on a dodgy frozen pitch sadly never played for us again.

Kevin Mabbutt was rated more highly than his brother Gary.

 

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View HOLden's Profile HOLden Flag Grays: Essex 19 Feb 14 1.08pm Send a Private Message to HOLden Add HOLden as a friend

Matt Jansen - His good form led to an England call-up for the friendly game against Paraguay. However he missed out on what would be his only International football match for his nation due to a stomach bug.

Then of course, that motorcycle accident in Rome, Italy during the summer of 2002, which nearly killed Jansen and long-term hospitalisation followed (he spent sometime in a coma).

Geoff Thomas - Battle with Leukemia.

Neil Shipperley & Kevin Phillips - Both scored in Our last two P/O Finals, yet were rarely featured in the Premiership.
AJ - Not being selected for the 2006 World Cup!

 


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Quote sydtheeagle at 19 Feb 2014 12.08pm

Totally agree re: Martin and Mick Elwiss. The other I'd add to the list, although he did make it a little further than those two, is John Salako. I believe Salad would have had a 50 cap England career minimum were it not for his serious injury. When he was hurt, he was very close to moving to Liverpool which, in my view, would have sprinboarded him to real greatness. He was the really genuine talent in the Bright/Wright/Thomas years.


Too right, Salako could have had the left wing birth for years in that England set-up.

Can't feel Ben Watson is too unlucky, he did score a winning goal in an FA Cup final!

 


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I was going to put Matt Jansen forward as well. Always felt bad for him.

 




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Quote HOLden at 19 Feb 2014 1.08pm

Matt Jansen - His good form led to an England call-up for the friendly game against Paraguay. However he missed out on what would be his only International football match for his nation due to a stomach bug.

Then of course, that motorcycle accident in Rome, Italy during the summer of 2002, which nearly killed Jansen and long-term hospitalisation followed (he spent sometime in a coma).

Geoff Thomas - Battle with Leukemia.

Neil Shipperley & Kevin Phillips - Both scored in Our last two P/O Finals, yet were rarely featured in the Premiership.
AJ - Not being selected for the 2006 World Cup!

Don't really see how Bimbo fits at all. His battle with Leukemia didn't affect his football career; it happened after he retired and long after he had left Palace.

Shipps and Phillips aren't comparable in my view. For one thing, Phillips never got fat, and for another, Shipps played a lot more for us in the Prem than Phillips ever did even if he wasn't a regular (on the pitch, rather than at the post-match buffet table). Am I right recalling his winner the last time we won at White Hart Lane, or is my mind playing tricks on me? Bundled the ball in at close range from a cross from the right wing, or I could be totally mad.

 


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It's one of the great sadnesses that Shipps, Thomas Brolin, and Razor Ruddock never got to play in the same Palace team. It would be safe to say that the words "highly mobile spine" would never have come into match reports.

 


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Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Feb 2014 4.14pm

I think Wilf Zaha is unlucky.

I believe he would have been banging in goals for us if he hadn't been shipped out to Manure.

Moyes has destroyed his confidence.

His first game for Cardiff was quite good, but the last two games he struggled.

If he had stayed at Palace he would be going to Brazil this summer - I doubt that he will now.

I am not sure about Wilf being unlucky. Getting a string of injuries is unlucky, but, in the long run, being left out of the first team is not about luck but about failing to show you have the ability and temperament required to deserve a place in the team.

He is a very good player, but, I still have some doubts as to whether he really has what it takes to make it at the very top, and I am not convinced he would have been "banging"in the goals for us this season. After all, he didn't score that many in the Championship last year ( although granted he created quite a few).

Anyway, he now has his chance at Cardiff to show if he can cut it in the Prem - time will tell.

 

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