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View sidman's Profile sidman Flag London 09 Mar 14 9.18am Send a Private Message to sidman Add sidman as a friend

We're missing that creative player and the problem Palace have is that we give the ball away too much.

The tactics seem to be wrong in the last few games and maybe it's better to leave Ince, Ledley, Puncheon and KG out of the team?

If we are going to leave Murray up front alone then we need a quick player who can join him easily.

TP has done a great job, but I don't understand why he won't give some of the others a chance?

 

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goodersgold Flag Hastings 09 Mar 14 9.21am

Quote Tidd99 at 09 Mar 2014 9.14am

Honest question.. Does anyone know why Joel Ward takes corners? I'm yet to see him take a good one plus he's a big guy and great in the air it would be better to have him in the box


Or why ledley is taking so many?
We are a big side get Bannan in and taking corners and creating chances for us and I also Chamakh needs to play every game if he's fit.
I'm pretty sure we will be up for it next week that's what Pulis does

 


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View dannyb1's Profile dannyb1 Flag Chichester 09 Mar 14 9.39am Send a Private Message to dannyb1 Add dannyb1 as a friend

Quote goodersgold at 09 Mar 2014 9.21am

Quote Tidd99 at 09 Mar 2014 9.14am

Honest question.. Does anyone know why Joel Ward takes corners? I'm yet to see him take a good one plus he's a big guy and great in the air it would be better to have him in the box


Or why ledley is taking so many?
We are a big side get Bannan in and taking corners and creating chances for us and I also Chamakh needs to play every game if he's fit.
I'm pretty sure we will be up for it next week that's what Pulis does

Agree with this and why is it Jedi takes free kicks? I thought he would be better in the box insted of putting Delaney on the far post and whacking it over to him in the hope he gets his head on it which he does but putting the ball behind and not knocking it on target/back in the box. I thought Thomas had a good cross on him yesterday and so does Bannan so why these guys ain't on and taking set pieces is a mystery.
I say take a chance at sunderland with 442 and try and attack teams insted of hoof and hope and start playing along the ground holding the ball and creating space.
My teams that might work are

-Speroni-
-Ward- -Gabbidon/Dann- -Delaney- -Moxey/Parr-


-Thomas/Ince- -Ledley- -Jedinak- -Bannan/Yannick-

-Gayle/Chamakh- -Murray-


Edited by dannyb1 (09 Mar 2014 9.42am)

 

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View kev64's Profile kev64 Flag Cambs 09 Mar 14 9.50am Send a Private Message to kev64 Add kev64 as a friend

Quote goodersgold at 09 Mar 2014 9.10am

Quote Andy_G at 09 Mar 2014 7.26am

Very good OP.

Sunderland will be a tough tough game and I'll be surprised if we get anything. For me April is a massive month, we'll be low on confidence after a painful March and the Cardiff &Villa games are season definers. Fingers crossed we get to Fulham with it in our own hands, they will be down and we may just sneak it.


It will be tough and we need to all get behind the team,it baffles me how we have sold 2,000 for Newcastle in 2 weeks but only just over a 1,000 for sunderland.
Are we here for a premiership jolly or serious about backing the team?


They are going to need it in every game as our away fixtures are

what's going to keep us in the premier league

With train tickets now £120 +, i guess its what you can afford and yep newcastle being the more attractive of the two games its getting the fans vote. But sunderland way more important to the survival in the prem.


I was lucky and got the £20 tickets so will be suffering 2 long jouneys if yesterday is anything to go on. But in TP we need to trust.

 

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View bodge's Profile bodge Flag 09 Mar 14 10.28am Send a Private Message to bodge Add bodge as a friend

Frustrated is where i am as well we must win at home and yet play far to defencive to build the pressure on the away teams that leads to goals. We now have one game at home where we will not be big outsiders so away wins is our best hope of staying up if we play the same team and tactics we will go down. I would play the players from the start who give us the best chance of scoring Gayle Chamakh and Ince with the players who can create Bolasie with his trickery Bannan with his delivery. Murray can be used from the bench if Chamakh is fit. I am a fan of Jedi but would rest him and try Ledley in his place.

speroni
ward delaney dann moxey/parr
ince ledley bannan bolasie
chamakh/murray gayle

 

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View seltz85's Profile seltz85 Flag Sydney 09 Mar 14 10.39am Send a Private Message to seltz85 Add seltz85 as a friend

I understand what people are saying when they say Newcastle and Sunderland like to pass the ball but my argument is, isnt that football? We can't just sit there and let a team pass the ball around us. When we play the top 6 teams I am more than happy to sit back, we cannot compete at al with those guys and trying to match them will end up in a cricket score, but we cant sit back at Sunderland, Fulham and Cardiff. We have the players that can get at teams, we have a team that is premiership quality, lets use those players and have our opposition worry about playing us, rather than us worrying about them.

This team is premiership in my eyes:

Speroni
Ward Dann Delaney Parr
Jedi Ledley
Bannan Ince Bolasie
Chamakh

That team can get at teams and worry them. With Murray, Gayle, Puncheon, Thomas (perhaps) we have players than can make a difference when they come on as well

 

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View blind eagle's Profile blind eagle Flag Covington.Tennessee 09 Mar 14 2.35pm Send a Private Message to blind eagle Add blind eagle as a friend

Quote south coast eagle at 09 Mar 2014 5.24am

Quote seltz85 at 09 Mar 2014 2.05am

Having just watched the Southampton game I am extremely frustrated at a couple of things. Before I get into that I want to make it clear that I think Pulis is doing an incredible job and we are punching well above our weight and honestly today we were beaten by a better team.

What irks me though is firstly KG and Punch. KG is in the team to sit next to Jedi and break up the play. When Ledley was in that position that is what he did, he sat there, broke up play and looked to pass the ball on. Today Ledley half the time was behind KG defending just outside our box! He was supposed to be the man supporting Murray not doing KG's job as well. I really think we missed the chance to play Ince behind Murray with Ledley playing those two in. We saw against West Brom that Ince will take a chance and get beyond the striker which would have offered something for Fonte and Lovren to think about and I really think we could have got amongst them like that.
Punch. I was very critical of him when he first came to Palace. He then made me eat my words completely but as someone has said on a different post we can't have players that don't fight week in, week out. We can't have him fire 2 weeks then one week put in a show like yesterday and potentially lose us a game. Barry Bannan gave 150% every time he was on the park, maybe it is time for him to come in, we will def get some better crosses out of him.

Secondly, why do we give other teams top players so much time on the ball Against Newcastle we let Cabaye do what he wanted and look what happened. Yesterday we let Lallana do what he wanted and he bossed the game completely. Yes he is an annoying bell end always in the refs ear, but get close to him, hassle him and he wont have the effect on the game that he did. at times we gave him the freedom of Selhurst, no wonder he has time to go and talk to the ref! If we got up at him and put hte pressure on him then he would concentrate more on what he had to do and get frustrated about it, rather than have time to watch everything that goes on and talk to Howard Webb complain and moan all the time.

Thirdly, why do we start so slowly. Yes I know we are up against teams that are technically better than us. Bust these tehniocally better teams hound us, put us under pressure and force mistakes. Why do we allow teams with players that can pick us apart to do just that! First half last week for example, we made an average Swansea team look like the team they were last season, second half we battered them and should have beaten them. Today, if we had gone at Saints would their hearts really have been in it? They are safe, are not qualifying for europe and are away from home. At home yes, they will put a show on for their fans, but away against a team that should be like rabid dogs for points they looked like they were the ones that needed it more.

Yes Howard Webb was awful today but he was not the reason we lost, we really missed a trick there and this is the first time that I have questioned TP's decisions. He has got us where we are so he certainly knows what he is doing but I think he got it wrong today.

Huge game next week against Sunderland. If we can get at them rather than make them look like Chelsea for the first half we can beat them and beat them well. I think a few players have got comfortable that they are going to play without having to perform and yesterday shows what happens when that mentality is there. I would love to see Bannan int he side and Ince behind Murray with Ledley partnering Jedi, and have them go at Sunderland like we went at Swansea second half from the off. We go a goal up, their crowd will not like it and they will come at us which wil allow us to then hit ont he counter attack and it could be taylor made for someone like Gayle to come on with 25 to go as well.

I am glad I got that out there, not all of you will agree but just my thoughts

Absolutely spot on


Yes mate your rant is dead on! I do hope Pulis will think deeply about our midfield this week and see if we can find a way to break up play and take some control. We certainly need a designated dead ball specialist as some of our efforts yesterday were pretty poor to say the least!.

 

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View gazzagoalie's Profile gazzagoalie Flag 09 Mar 14 2.43pm Send a Private Message to gazzagoalie Add gazzagoalie as a friend

I do think we missed chamakh yesterday.

 

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View geoff's Profile geoff Flag Midhurst 09 Mar 14 2.44pm Send a Private Message to geoff Add geoff as a friend

We just can't go on giving teams 70% possession. It will kill us. We need to pass and keep the ball a bit, especially at home, why do we just sit there and allow even average teams to dominate us! I thought Southampton looked no more than ok yesterday and a Palace team had turned up we could have got at least a point.
So many set pieces wasted and such little possession.
And am sorry if I get slated for this but Jedi apart from crunching tackles offers little in terms of passing or dead ball opportunities.

 

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