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pompeyeagle Relocated to Shropshire 23 Mar 14 7.49am
I also cannot see us winning another game simply because we can't score goals. I am just hoping that we will still be in with a shout when we play Fulham on the last day but it doesn't look good.
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pompeyeagle

Relocated to Shropshire 23 Mar 14 7.49am

I also cannot see us winning another game simply because we can't score goals. I am just hoping that we will still be in with a shout when we play Fulham on the last day but it doesn't look good.

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linguini UK 23 Mar 14 8.08am
Of course we can do it. But: * We have some very hard games coming. * We have not taken anything from a top team...yet. * We simply cannot score ... * We WILL rely on ALL 3 teams below us to trip up, which is highly unlikely. Our manager has done a magnificent job, making us hard to beat and the ONLY reason we are still with a chance is him. Remember he was presented with a huge squad of players, none of which he had chosen. So, I'll be shouting for us as ever, whatever happens.
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linguini

UK 23 Mar 14 8.08am

Of course we can do it. But:

* We have some very hard games coming.

* We have not taken anything from a top team...yet.

* We simply cannot score ...

* We WILL rely on ALL 3 teams below us to trip up, which is highly unlikely.

Our manager has done a magnificent job, making us hard to beat and the ONLY reason we are still with a chance is him. Remember he was presented with a huge squad of players, none of which he had chosen.
So, I'll be shouting for us as ever, whatever happens.

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wainesworld west wickham 23 Mar 14 8.10am
I can see us beating Cardiff, draw with West Ham and a win at Fulham if we start to attack. If we play the way we are atm we are down. Ive been saying for a while we cant draw ourselves to safety.
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wainesworld

west wickham 23 Mar 14 8.10am

I can see us beating Cardiff, draw with West Ham and a win at Fulham if we start to attack.

If we play the way we are atm we are down. Ive been saying for a while we cant draw ourselves to safety.

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kev64 Cambs 23 Mar 14 9.06am
We havent looked like scoring for hours, the same game plan, cj running his arse off with no one to lay it off too, sitting deep for 80% of the game. 5 points from the final games. Praying 3 other teams continue to be worse than us. Edited by kev64 (23 Mar 2014 9.07am)
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kev64

Cambs 23 Mar 14 9.06am

We havent looked like scoring for hours, the same game plan, cj running his arse off with no one to lay it off too, sitting deep for 80% of the game.

5 points from the final games. Praying 3 other teams continue to be worse than us.

Edited by kev64 (23 Mar 2014 9.07am)

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Bitter Harpenden 23 Mar 14 10.21am
Quote Willo at 22 Mar 2014 10.41pm I have been saying for a while that I didn't believe we could survive and nothing recently has changed my mind.Our goalscoring record is abysmal and this will cost us in the end - sadly. How many times do you need to be told that the most critical factor is the number conceded NOT the number scored? Both statistics are important and if we do go down it will be the lack of goals scored that was the problem. BUT look at the teams relegated from the PL in the last 10 years and you'll see that it's not the sides that scored the least that get relegated, it's the sides that concede the most. Edited by Bitter (23 Mar 2014 10.22am)
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Harpenden 23 Mar 14 10.21am

Quote Willo at 22 Mar 2014 10.41pm

I have been saying for a while that I didn't believe we could survive and nothing recently has changed my mind.Our goalscoring record is abysmal and this will cost us in the end - sadly.

How many times do you need to be told that the most critical factor is the number conceded NOT the number scored? Both statistics are important and if we do go down it will be the lack of goals scored that was the problem. BUT look at the teams relegated from the PL in the last 10 years and you'll see that it's not the sides that scored the least that get relegated, it's the sides that concede the most.

Edited by Bitter (23 Mar 2014 10.22am)

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 23 Mar 14 11.19am
Quote wainesworld at 23 Mar 2014 8.10am I can see us beating Cardiff, draw with West Ham and a win at Fulham if we start to attack. If we play the way we are atm we are down. Ive been saying for a while we cant draw ourselves to safety. I can't. They at least have goals in them. They were able to put three past a rampant Liverpool yesterday whilst we have absolutely no firepower up front. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 23 Mar 14 11.19am

Quote wainesworld at 23 Mar 2014 8.10am

I can see us beating Cardiff, draw with West Ham and a win at Fulham if we start to attack.

If we play the way we are atm we are down. Ive been saying for a while we cant draw ourselves to safety.

I can't. They at least have goals in them. They were able to put three past a rampant Liverpool yesterday whilst we have absolutely no firepower up front.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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EastEndPalace WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 23 Mar 14 11.23am
Quote Cucking Funt at 23 Mar 2014 11.19am Quote wainesworld at 23 Mar 2014 8.10am I can see us beating Cardiff, draw with West Ham and a win at Fulham if we start to attack. If we play the way we are atm we are down. Ive been saying for a while we cant draw ourselves to safety. I can't. They at least have goals in them. They were able to put three past a rampant Liverpool yesterday whilst we have absolutely no firepower up front. They cant score against defensive sides. Their main threat is Frazier Campbell who is only good when running through a team that has just gone all out attack.
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EastEndPalace

WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 23 Mar 14 11.23am

Quote Cucking Funt at 23 Mar 2014 11.19am

Quote wainesworld at 23 Mar 2014 8.10am

I can see us beating Cardiff, draw with West Ham and a win at Fulham if we start to attack.

If we play the way we are atm we are down. Ive been saying for a while we cant draw ourselves to safety.

I can't. They at least have goals in them. They were able to put three past a rampant Liverpool yesterday whilst we have absolutely no firepower up front.

They cant score against defensive sides. Their main threat is Frazier Campbell who is only good when running through a team that has just gone all out attack.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 23 Mar 14 11.25am
Quote EastEndPalace at 23 Mar 2014 11.23am Quote Cucking Funt at 23 Mar 2014 11.19am Quote wainesworld at 23 Mar 2014 8.10am I can see us beating Cardiff, draw with West Ham and a win at Fulham if we start to attack. If we play the way we are atm we are down. Ive been saying for a while we cant draw ourselves to safety. I can't. They at least have goals in them. They were able to put three past a rampant Liverpool yesterday whilst we have absolutely no firepower up front. They cant score against defensive sides. Their main threat is Frazier Campbell who is only good when running through a team that has just gone all out attack. Which is a stance we're going to have to abandon or at least modify if we're hoping to get all three points. Where are our goals going to come from? Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 23 Mar 14 11.25am

Quote EastEndPalace at 23 Mar 2014 11.23am

Quote Cucking Funt at 23 Mar 2014 11.19am

Quote wainesworld at 23 Mar 2014 8.10am

I can see us beating Cardiff, draw with West Ham and a win at Fulham if we start to attack.

If we play the way we are atm we are down. Ive been saying for a while we cant draw ourselves to safety.

I can't. They at least have goals in them. They were able to put three past a rampant Liverpool yesterday whilst we have absolutely no firepower up front.

They cant score against defensive sides. Their main threat is Frazier Campbell who is only good when running through a team that has just gone all out attack.

Which is a stance we're going to have to abandon or at least modify if we're hoping to get all three points. Where are our goals going to come from?

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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jamiemartin721 Reading 23 Mar 14 11.57am
I think we'll be beaten by Chelsea, Liverpool and Man City, and need to focus on beating Villa, west ham, Cardiff and Fulham. We might nick a draw or a cheeky 1-0 against the first three, but I wouldn't bank on it. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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jamiemartin721

Reading 23 Mar 14 11.57am

I think we'll be beaten by Chelsea, Liverpool and Man City, and need to focus on beating Villa, west ham, Cardiff and Fulham.

We might nick a draw or a cheeky 1-0 against the first three, but I wouldn't bank on it.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 23 Mar 14 11.59am
Quote Bitter at 23 Mar 2014 10.21am Quote Willo at 22 Mar 2014 10.41pm I have been saying for a while that I didn't believe we could survive and nothing recently has changed my mind.Our goalscoring record is abysmal and this will cost us in the end - sadly. How many times do you need to be told that the most critical factor is the number conceded NOT the number scored? Both statistics are important and if we do go down it will be the lack of goals scored that was the problem. BUT look at the teams relegated from the PL in the last 10 years and you'll see that it's not the sides that scored the least that get relegated, it's the sides that concede the most. Edited by Bitter (23 Mar 2014 10.22am) Few people understand this, conceding the first goal massively increases your chances of losing, conceding a second almost guarantees it. The difference between conceding the first goal and scoring it, is not the same in determining your chances of winning. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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jamiemartin721

Reading 23 Mar 14 11.59am

Quote Bitter at 23 Mar 2014 10.21am

Quote Willo at 22 Mar 2014 10.41pm

I have been saying for a while that I didn't believe we could survive and nothing recently has changed my mind.Our goalscoring record is abysmal and this will cost us in the end - sadly.

Edited by Bitter (23 Mar 2014 10.22am)

Few people understand this, conceding the first goal massively increases your chances of losing, conceding a second almost guarantees it. The difference between conceding the first goal and scoring it, is not the same in determining your chances of winning.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 23 Mar 14 12.00pm
Quote girvinator at 22 Mar 2014 11.28pm Chelsea - 0 Cardiff - 1 Villa - 3 Everton - 0 West ham - 3 City - 0 Liverpool - 0 Fulham - 1 That would be enough this season I think. I think we'll beat Cardiff and Villa. Cardiff can't defend at all, and we were almost prolific against them at Selhurst park. Hopefully by the last day we'll be safe. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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jamiemartin721

Reading 23 Mar 14 12.00pm

Quote girvinator at 22 Mar 2014 11.28pm

Chelsea - 0
Cardiff - 1
Villa - 3
Everton - 0
West ham - 3
City - 0
Liverpool - 0
Fulham - 1

That would be enough this season I think. I think we'll beat Cardiff and Villa. Cardiff can't defend at all, and we were almost prolific against them at Selhurst park.

Hopefully by the last day we'll be safe.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Joeberto Streatham Hill 23 Mar 14 12.17pm
Yep, it's pretty clear that the Cardiff and Villa games are beyond crucial. I think we need 4-6 points from those games to give ourselves a chance, and simply can't afford to lose to Cardiff. If we pull that off, hopefully there's breathing space to go at the Hammers & Fulham games, and any unlikely bonus we can pick up from the big sides. Whatever happens, the likelihood is it won't be pretty, but no need to write us off with 8 games still to play! We're in there with a fair chance, which looked hopelessly unlikely until TP came in.
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Joeberto

Streatham Hill 23 Mar 14 12.17pm

Yep, it's pretty clear that the Cardiff and Villa games are beyond crucial. I think we need 4-6 points from those games to give ourselves a chance, and simply can't afford to lose to Cardiff.

If we pull that off, hopefully there's breathing space to go at the Hammers & Fulham games, and any unlikely bonus we can pick up from the big sides.

Whatever happens, the likelihood is it won't be pretty, but no need to write us off with 8 games still to play! We're in there with a fair chance, which looked hopelessly unlikely until TP came in.

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