Cardiff complaint - Could we face problems if true?
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 The Sash  Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 18 Apr 14 10.55am |
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Quote Southampton_Eagle at 18 Apr 2014 10.30am
Quote Northbrook at 18 Apr 2014 10.25am
Big Tone of the Pulis just on SSN, speaking about this for the first time - says that he's disappointed Cardiff have gone about it in the press, that he picked the team for that game on the Monday and made NO changes from then. The key to this is that he said he logs everything and has proof to back this up should the FA or Premier League need it. Sounds good to me so hopefully we can relax a bit now... I've never been anything but relaxed. Too many panickers on here. Reading a Cardiff forum even they say it's a farce, the club is a joke and Palace played them off the park. Fans will scream blue murder if they feel they have been wronged. Vincent Tan is a disgrace, as is the BBC reporter for trying to jazz this up. Exactly SE
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roythom  18 Apr 14 11.10am |
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It is not just the people of Cardiff who are embarrassed by Vincent Tan. Malaysians too. Here are some links which reflect the extent of that embarrassment, plus the little insight that the Malaysian Government gave him 15m Ringgits (about 2.75m pounds) to make an utter fool of himself in Cardiff: plus Tan's dealings in the sports betting industry in Malaysia: I am sure there are many more.
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 Cucking Funt  Clapham on the Back 18 Apr 14 11.20am |
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Quote EastEndPalace at 18 Apr 2014 9.47am
Quote maxipalace at 18 Apr 2014 8.11am
Quote homes at 17 Apr 2014 7.22pm
Quote jpegnall at 17 Apr 2014 7.14pm
Just sack Moody. If it is true he is an idiot anyway. Seriously, what did he think he was doing.
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| fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 18 Apr 14 11.41am |
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I would like Cardiff to explain how our 3-0 win was unexpected? I mean we had just beaten Chelsea 1-0, where as Cardiff have pretty much lost to everyone this season and played absolutely dreadful on the day (I witnessed it first hand being at the game). Maybe it was unexpected because Tan had fixed the game? I mean they played so badly it could be possible that they were throwing the game and with tan's links to betting? Maybe he had money on a 2-0 defeat that's why 3-0 was unexpected? OK probably bollocks but this whole episode reminds me of the kid in the playground who brings the ball along and then when his team starts losing he grabs the ball, screams it's his ball and doesn't want to play anymore. This is very damaging to Cardiff more than us. All my none supporting Palace friends think Cardiff's bid is bollocks, pathetic and doomed to fail. Edited by fed up eagle (18 Apr 2014 11.41am)
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| Part Time James 18 Apr 14 12.22pm |
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Quote fed up eagle at 18 Apr 2014 11.41am
I would like Cardiff to explain how our 3-0 win was unexpected? I mean we had just beaten Chelsea 1-0, where as Cardiff have pretty much lost to everyone this season and played absolutely dreadful on the day (I witnessed it first hand being at the game). Maybe it was unexpected because Tan had fixed the game? I mean they played so badly it could be possible that they were throwing the game and with tan's links to betting? Maybe he had money on a 2-0 defeat that's why 3-0 was unexpected? OK probably bollocks but this whole episode reminds me of the kid in the playground who brings the ball along and then when his team starts losing he grabs the ball, screams it's his ball and doesn't want to play anymore. This is very damaging to Cardiff more than us. All my none supporting Palace friends think Cardiff's bid is bollocks, pathetic and doomed to fail. Edited by fed up eagle (18 Apr 2014 11.41am) As has been said before, maybe they expected to lose by more!
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| EastEndPalace WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 18 Apr 14 12.24pm |
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Quote Cucking Funt at 18 Apr 2014 11.20am
Quote EastEndPalace at 18 Apr 2014 9.47am
Quote maxipalace at 18 Apr 2014 8.11am
Quote homes at 17 Apr 2014 7.22pm
Quote jpegnall at 17 Apr 2014 7.14pm
Just sack Moody. If it is true he is an idiot anyway. Seriously, what did he think he was doing.
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| so many memories basingstoke 18 Apr 14 12.26pm |
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It's a puppet.
Get it on-get it in-F**K OFF ALAN HANSEN!! |
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| Nevermind 18 Apr 14 12.41pm |
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Quote Sg Bilko at 17 Apr 2014 7.43pm
Quote The Sash at 17 Apr 2014 3.43pm
Quote Sg Bilko at 17 Apr 2014 1.37pm
Quote Baldfella at 17 Apr 2014 12.37pm
Quote fed up eagle at 17 Apr 2014 12.34pm
Apparently Cardiff are trying to say that the result we got there should not stand due to the supposed leak. Thoughts? Not against you personally mate but you're the most recent poster that seems to think the powers that be would want to "screw us over" ! What do you base this on ? Complete rubbish, Palace make the same contributions towards their partition in the Premier League, they will get same treatment as any other club. As stated before: SECTION B Rule B15 states: "In all matters and transactions relating to the league each club shall behave towards each other club and the league with the utmost good faith". SECTION B Rule 17 goes on, "A Club shall not without the Board’s prior written consent either during its membership of the League or at any time after its membership has terminated disclose or divulge either directly or indirectly to any Person whatsoever or otherwise make use of any confidential information as to the business or finances of the League or any other Club or any of their dealings, transactions or affairs or as to any other matters which may come to its knowledge by reason Also there is no mention of this type of issue in APPENDIX 5 & 6 Managers and clubs code of conduct. So unless the Premier league introduce a new rule, it's a storm in a teacup, as this sort of thing has been going on for years, even when I was playing it was going on, every club tried to get their opponents lineup before they named theirs, and I retired in 1977, it's called trying to outwit your opponent. Exactly - As I said earlier, there is no actual 'rule' that has been broken, you could argue if we did do this then we went against a very shaky and vague ethical 'guidleine' to which no-one can actually pass a judgement on It seems as though we are both correct, a lawyer has looked at this for FYP and his spin on this is: In an even more bizarre twist, Cardiff have claimed that after Moody had discovered the line-up, he mistakenly sent a text message to former Palace boss Dougie Freedman with the information; before Freedman alerted his friend Ole Gunnar Solskjaer about the leak. The BBC explained that the document sent to the Premier League notes that Cardiff midfielder Aron Gunnarsson is named as the source of the leak; something which the player and his agent both have denied. We asked our resident lawyer, Andy Street to give us his view on the situation, and he believes there is nothing for Palace fans to worry about. Would appreciate it if you could link to the article rather than copying and pasting it in its entirety. Edited by Nevermind (18 Apr 2014 12.42pm)
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Sg Bilko  Deurne Holland 18 Apr 14 1.04pm |
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Quote Nevermind at 18 Apr 2014 12.41pm
Quote Sg Bilko at 17 Apr 2014 7.43pm
Quote The Sash at 17 Apr 2014 3.43pm
Quote Sg Bilko at 17 Apr 2014 1.37pm
Quote Baldfella at 17 Apr 2014 12.37pm
Quote fed up eagle at 17 Apr 2014 12.34pm
Apparently Cardiff are trying to say that the result we got there should not stand due to the supposed leak. Thoughts? Not against you personally mate but you're the most recent poster that seems to think the powers that be would want to "screw us over" ! What do you base this on ? Complete rubbish, Palace make the same contributions towards their partition in the Premier League, they will get same treatment as any other club. As stated before: SECTION B Rule B15 states: "In all matters and transactions relating to the league each club shall behave towards each other club and the league with the utmost good faith". SECTION B Rule 17 goes on, "A Club shall not without the Board’s prior written consent either during its membership of the League or at any time after its membership has terminated disclose or divulge either directly or indirectly to any Person whatsoever or otherwise make use of any confidential information as to the business or finances of the League or any other Club or any of their dealings, transactions or affairs or as to any other matters which may come to its knowledge by reason Also there is no mention of this type of issue in APPENDIX 5 & 6 Managers and clubs code of conduct. So unless the Premier league introduce a new rule, it's a storm in a teacup, as this sort of thing has been going on for years, even when I was playing it was going on, every club tried to get their opponents lineup before they named theirs, and I retired in 1977, it's called trying to outwit your opponent. Exactly - As I said earlier, there is no actual 'rule' that has been broken, you could argue if we did do this then we went against a very shaky and vague ethical 'guidleine' to which no-one can actually pass a judgement on It seems as though we are both correct, a lawyer has looked at this for FYP and his spin on this is: In an even more bizarre twist, Cardiff have claimed that after Moody had discovered the line-up, he mistakenly sent a text message to former Palace boss Dougie Freedman with the information; before Freedman alerted his friend Ole Gunnar Solskjaer about the leak. The BBC explained that the document sent to the Premier League notes that Cardiff midfielder Aron Gunnarsson is named as the source of the leak; something which the player and his agent both have denied. We asked our resident lawyer, Andy Street to give us his view on the situation, and he believes there is nothing for Palace fans to worry about. Would appreciate it if you could link to the article rather than copying and pasting it in its entirety. http://fiveyearplanfanzine.co.uk/news/4835-crystal-palace-spygate-saga-rumbles-on-a-lawyer-s-view.html Edited by Nevermind (18 Apr 2014 12.42pm) I usually do, but because of it's significance and the fact those with some smartphones can't upload such links, I posted it so they had a chance to read it.
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| FinchleyEagle 18 Apr 14 1.08pm |
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Big Tone and his logs of team practice and team picked on Monday is game, set, and match. Hopefully we bow out now, leave Tan and the BBC journalist in front of the rest of the press and let them either dig themselves deeper or apologise. Either way we move on.
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| Typical Palace Allington 18 Apr 14 1.19pm |
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I'm surprised they haven't reported us for being in breach of the trade descriptions act as according to Alan Hansen we were supposed to be crap and heading for relegation.
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