Diagnosed with Depression. Help?
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jamiemartin721  Reading 07 Apr 15 1.51pm |
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Quote cpfccolin at 03 Apr 2015 6.51pm
If everyone suffered with depression because their wife left them or they lost tier job, this would be a very sorry state of a country. Get over it grow a pair, we all have lost a job or a girlfriend or have a family member die its part of life. I am a self employed plumber/Multi-trader with a family I don't always have work every day or week, sometimes go a couple of months without work. I don't take pity on myself and start crying like a baby and say I feel depressed I have no work, quick let me run to the doctor and take a pill. Depression isn't being sad, its the loss of affect. It can be triggered by things like grief or loss etc but effectively its a disorder in the production - either from under production, or higher reuptake at the synaptic gap. This generally has a hereditory basis, and is considered present as a predisposition. People prone to depression simply biologically lack a capacity to recover in incidents that trigger their disorder, and that without intervention and treatment, the disorder itself simply creates a greater loss of affect (essentially its a feedback loop). As a result, most people within the first few bouts spiral, because they lack the biological basis of recovery or the cognative skills required to address and identify root causes of the spiral. Depression isn't about being sad or unhappy, its about the loss of the capacity for affect entirely. When I'm sad, I'm paradoxically not depressed, and that in itself makes me happy. You know those days when you wake up in the middle of the night, and can't sleep, when you know everything is pointless, meaningless and has no value, that no matter what you do, nothing happens or changes. Thats me on a average day, all of the time. The meds take the edge off, the experience gives me tools to stabalise. My life is pretty good (I'm self employed, earn a good living etc) but that makes no difference.
The pointlessness of life can obviously be overwhelming but there are things out there which can keep you very busy and can make it go right to the back of the queue in our thoughts. So much so that it becomes pointless to even dwell on it. 'What's that, son?' - 'you want to bankrupt me again in monopoly?'
True that, keeping 'active' really helps, even if its futile, and I kind of embraced that futility with a bit of Zen meditation and learning, and that really helped. It kind of turns the futility of a meaningless existance into a positive thing.
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 Pikester Worthing 07 Apr 15 1.55pm |
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Quote suicideatselhurst at 06 Apr 2015 8.24pm
Quote Lucas Oliver at 06 Apr 2015 7.08pm
Never had depression and don't really get the moping malarkey. However the amount of people who seem to have a lot going for them and still get it is huge. I think it's one of those where you don't really get what it's all about until you've had it. If I was to top myself I'd scale the Arthur and do a running long jump/swallow dive on to the pitch.
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| Lucas Oliver Miles away 08 Apr 15 1.43am |
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Quote suicideatselhurst at 06 Apr 2015 8.24pm
Quote Lucas Oliver at 06 Apr 2015 7.08pm
Never had depression and don't really get the moping malarkey. However the amount of people who seem to have a lot going for them and still get it is huge. I think it's one of those where you don't really get what it's all about until you've had it. If I was to top myself I'd scale the Arthur and do a running long jump/swallow dive on to the pitch.
Truth is I doubt I'd have the balls to top myself. I can't begin to comprehend the thought processes one goes through. Top respect to volunteers at charities like Samaritans
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| reborn 08 Apr 15 7.56am |
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Quote cpfccolin at 03 Apr 2015 6.51pm
If everyone suffered with depression because their wife left them or they lost tier job, this would be a very sorry state of a country. Get over it grow a pair, we all have lost a job or a girlfriend or have a family member die its part of life. I am a self employed plumber/Multi-trader with a family I don't always have work every day or week, sometimes go a couple of months without work. I don't take pity on myself and start crying like a baby and say I feel depressed I have no work, quick let me run to the doctor and take a pill. I get on with life
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| radsyrendot From Coventry now in Leicester 08 Apr 15 8.59am |
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cpfccolin is a character alright like Harold Lloyd He was a CLOWN also
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Kermit8  Hevon 08 Apr 15 10.58am |
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Quote radsyrendot at 08 Apr 2015 8.59am
cpfccolin is a character alright like Harold Lloyd He was a CLOWN also
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 08 Apr 15 11.52am |
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Quote cpfccolin at 03 Apr 2015 6.51pm
If everyone suffered with depression because their wife left them or they lost tier job, this would be a very sorry state of a country. Get over it grow a pair, we all have lost a job or a girlfriend or have a family member die its part of life. I am a self employed plumber/Multi-trader with a family I don't always have work every day or week, sometimes go a couple of months without work. I don't take pity on myself and start crying like a baby and say I feel depressed I have no work, quick let me run to the doctor and take a pill. I get on with life
Walking home from a friends in a reasonably good mood and then suddenly stopping and sitting on a bench, in spite of it pissing down not moving for hours because, what's the point? Bursting into tears, unable to say why (tears don't always = sad) Feelings of anxiety rushing up on you from nowhere. I've been literally mid sentence talking to someone laughing and joking and then boom it hits you. Even a song, in my case puff the Magic sodding Dragon, can send you into a spiral. Sounds stupid? maybe, but these things like a death or losing your job are triggers. I do my best to recognise and subsequently avoid them. I now do a lot of exercise, it helps a lot but I still get long periods of feeling melancholic. I've been off meds for 17 years. I am no longer self employed and I find that the structure of a PAYE job actually helps. Jamie, I have a lot of admiration for you to be able to maintain a self employed job whilst suffering from depression. One of the things that helped me turn my life around, being run over by a bus. For about 5 seconds, I thought I was dead. It made me realise that no matter how s*** I felt, I wasn't ready to leave just yet. I still get bouts of anxiety, mostly quite mild (fortunately) but every year or so I get a more serious one. There are unfortunately GPs who will quickly sign people off with Low Mood or Depression when actually they are just having a tough time. That doesn't mean that depression and anxiety are not very real conditions that can blight a persons life. I am quite fortunate that I don't get the bad times a lot of people get. Kudos to Seth for counselling and offering to help people on here. Top man.
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)| Red-Blue-Yellow Surrey 08 Apr 15 1.51pm |
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I have had several bouts of 'depression' (with variable characteristics, hence the inverted commas) over the last 45 years.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Apr 15 2.35pm |
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Quote Red-Blue-Yellow at 08 Apr 2015 1.51pm
I have had several bouts of 'depression' (with variable characteristics, hence the inverted commas) over the last 45 years. I feel for you, I find it almost impossible to talk about other peoples feelings, its difficult enough understanding my own. Talking through feelings, mine or others, is something I find just frustrates me no end.
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| iheartcpfc SE25 08 Apr 15 8.48pm |
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Wonder how many people would change their minds re depression if one day they woke up and no longer enjoyed any of their hobbies, interests, struggle to laugh at their favourite comedians, can barely get out of bed and shower as it just feels like so much work, can't seek help thanks to the accompanying anxiety, lose their appetites, feel permanently fatigued, can't even concentrate when trying to read a book or newspaper and sometimes just can't see the point of living anymore with all the guilt and stress they're going through. There's a lot of misunderstanding of depression in the UK. When a famous person commits suicide, some will give it the usual "we must do more for depressed people" on facebook or something and then forget all about it. Some just completely miss the point and call the victim selfish or downplay their illness. As someone with depression (not suicidal but it has a huge impact on my life, ruining my school progress and leaving me with nothing) I hope it changes soon. It is an illness and should be given the respect it commands. Edited by iheartcpfc (08 Apr 2015 8.48pm)
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| rednblue4eva Norwood 08 Apr 15 9.48pm |
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Katie Hopkins has made a number of tweets about depression, including: 'Most depression is just genuine sadness at a social situation. Like being caught in torrential rain with a bag from Primark.'
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| iheartcpfc SE25 08 Apr 15 9.56pm |
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Quote rednblue4eva at 08 Apr 2015 9.48pm
Katie Hopkins has made a number of tweets about depression, including: 'Most depression is just genuine sadness at a social situation. Like being caught in torrential rain with a bag from Primark.'
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