How does it 'stroke racial hatred'?

So investigating Islamic forums isn't allowed?

If there is no story to be found then there is no story. If there is a story then the Mail can publish and if their report is found to contain serious lies then I'm sure the Muslim council are well within their rights to take them to court....And if they had a case I'd support them.

However no group should be 'off limits' to investigation, especially a group that conservative estimates have said has 500 young men fighting aboard for an anti democratic extremist group.

Racial Hatred? I see no claim by anyone that picks on all Muslims.

This is just a ham fisted hack who's been found out.

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Jul 2014 5.58pm)

Funny how all us non-religious types manage to get on OK without entering to inter or intra-sectarian based mass killings, but citicse religion and the proverbial "all hell breaks lose".

Why not cancel all relgion?

Stalin's purges and Pol Pot's atrocities were all committed by 'non religious types'. These are two are largest mass murders in history. Unfortunately, 'non religious types' are just as keen to murder people as some fanatical religious types.

Edited by matt_himself (07 Jul 2014 9.13am)

For what it's worth:
All 'extremist' positions are pervertions...
ISIS and other such groups are pervertions of Islam.
Souther Baptists etc are pervertions of Christianity.
Modern Israel is a pervertion of Judaism.
Communism is a pervertion of Socialism.
Naziism is a pervertion of Nationalism.
Even the near extinction of Native Americans can be seen as a pervertion of Colonialism.
By the same logic, the 'New World Order' of Global Capitalism is a pervertion of Feudalism.

Everything in moderation would be a good watch word for a sane planet...but we humans are prone to taking things too far and seeing things in terms of absolutes, we pervert logic,science, even 'common sense', for our own ends; which usually only amount to greed and lust motivated by ignorance, fear of 'the other' and our impotence in the face of natural forces and our own mortality.
These behaviours are essentially immature and like most immature actions, they will haunt us and exact a price on future generations.

I like your posts on the whole, but come on, this is bollocks.

We set our arbitrary measures on what is 'extreme' on either side, then kid ourselves that there is some mathematical mid-point we can work out and say that's what we should do.

Take your point about Colonialism and the Native Americans. I assume you didn't, but someone could suggest the extremities on offer are: no Colonialism, or extinction of a whole race. Thus the moderate position may be said to be moderate Colonialism, but were China to march troops in to Parliament and declare that we were now under their benevolent rule, I imagine the reaction on HOL would not be 'oh well, at least they acted in moderation'.

Back to the thread point, I find the whole thing f*cking depressing. It's like Islam is some new idea which has only just found credence and is now going to take over the world, rape your kids and punch your wife in the face. It's been around for millennia and, like other ideologies, had and has some nutters connected to it, but actually on the whole it's also done a lot of good and the only person suffering from you pissing your knickers over it is yourself.

Forget the muslim extremists we have the old dears and codgers, mums and a few lairy types within Unite Against Fascism to worry about.

The Far Right with their xenophobia and hate do not like them, do they?

Wonder which side our WW2 soldiers would have been on given the choice?

Edited by Kermit8 (24 Jun 2014 9.58am)