Isn't it U. S intervention in Iraq that's allowed the rise of ISIS?

Absolutely Gusset. George Bush indoctrinated them, raised the finance to create an army, supplied them with weapons and then encouraged them to murder their own people in a brutal fashion.

The US is 100% responsible for this and those carrying it out are innocents forced into it by imperialist aggression.

Edited by matt_himself (29 Jul 2014 2.36pm)

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Definition of Terrorism in Terrorism Act 2000:

"The use or threat of action designed to influence the government or an international governmental organisation or to intimidate the public, or a section of the public; made for the purposes of advancing a political, religious, racial or ideological cause; and it involves or causes:
•serious violence against a person;
•serious damage to a property;
•a threat to a person's life;
•a serious risk to the health and safety of the public; or
•serious interference with or disruption to an electronic system."

BBC,16 January 2014:

"But what actually triggers a terrorism arrest? What is legal and what is not?

It is not illegal to travel to Syria, although the British government advises against it.

In fact it has been so easy to buy a cheap plane ticket to Turkey, then cross the porous border, where the Syrian authorities have lost control of key checkpoints and where no visa or passport stamp is involved, that an estimated 1,300 European jihadists have flocked there to fight. The true number may already be a lot higher.

What matters in the eyes of the UK authorities is what an individual does when he gets to Syria. Does he, for example, attend "a terrorist training camp", or get involved in kidnapping and executions?

"It comes down to the advice given by the Crown Prosecution Service," said a senior Whitehall official, adding, "It is important to know who is using that camp."

Free Syrian Army fighters erect the Syrian opposition flag Some al-Qaeda-linked groups are officially banned in the UK
Al-Qaeda-linked groups such as Jabhat Al-Nusra and Islamic State of Iraq and Sham (ISIS) are officially proscribed as "terrorist organisations", but the CPS says it does not keep a handy list of which groups raise alarm bells.

Instead, each case is looked at individually and often depends in practice on intelligence provided by the Security Service (MI5) or evidence gathered by the Metropolitan Police's Counter Terrorism Command (SO15).

To make an arrest, the police need to have reasonable grounds for suspicion that an individual has committed an offence under the Terrorism Act, namely that he or she "is or has been concerned in the commission, preparation and instigation of acts of terrorism".

David Anderson QC, the Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation, says of those Britons arrested on their return from fighting in Syria, most are held under section 41 of the Terrorism Act 2000.

This requires only reasonable suspicion that a person "is a terrorist", defined as above. He says this is an unusual power because no suspicion is required of committing any specific crime. Suspects can be held for up to 14 days prior to charge, though very rarely more than a week.

However, the issue of Britons going to fight in Syria is complicated. British government policy has been to call for the departure of Syria's autocratic President Assad and to support the weak, secular opposition.

But on the ground in Syria the most powerful, effective opposition forces are Islamist or jihadist, many with links to al-Qaeda. So the British authorities find themselves in the curious position of monitoring and sometimes arresting the very individuals who have been fighting the regime that they too oppose."

Deborah Walsh, deputy head of counter-terrorism at the CPS, says: "UK legislation allows us to prosecute in the UK terrorist offences that are committed abroad."

Edited by legaleagle (29 Jul 2014 2.51pm)

Like I said he was a c***.

You clearly have no understanding of nuance. You also are trying to pick a fight. You know I don't believe that. Kindly fack off and troll someone else matt. I just can't be arsed with you today.

He knows this.