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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 13 Nov 14 8.12pm |
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Quote Seth at 13 Nov 2014 12.28am
Quote Helmet46 at 12 Nov 2014 10.42pm
Over the years I have seen my employer reduce their pension contributions which has seen my pension eroded, lost flexible working hours, lost any chance of overtime and seen my retirement age increase to 67. I have worked since I was 16 and my pensions are on track to give me £7k at 65. Sounds like you need to join a union. They fight for this kind of thing you know. Funny you should say that - I joined Unite after the Union thread on here!!
I've helped loads of people in my time as a union rep. As long as any union group in a workplace doesn't take the mickey, you find productivity gets better because the workforce are generally happier.
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You know it makes sense. Pussay Patrol  13 Nov 14 8.26pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 13 Nov 2014 8.12pm
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Quote Helmet46 at 12 Nov 2014 10.42pm
Over the years I have seen my employer reduce their pension contributions which has seen my pension eroded, lost flexible working hours, lost any chance of overtime and seen my retirement age increase to 67. I have worked since I was 16 and my pensions are on track to give me £7k at 65. Sounds like you need to join a union. They fight for this kind of thing you know. Funny you should say that - I joined Unite after the Union thread on here!!
I've helped loads of people in my time as a union rep. As long as any union group in a workplace doesn't take the mickey, you find productivity gets better because the workforce are generally happier. What's their plan to stop people living longer?
Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 13 Nov 14 9.15pm |
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Quote Seth at 13 Nov 2014 12.28am
Quote Helmet46 at 12 Nov 2014 10.42pm
Over the years I have seen my employer reduce their pension contributions which has seen my pension eroded, lost flexible working hours, lost any chance of overtime and seen my retirement age increase to 67. I have worked since I was 16 and my pensions are on track to give me £7k at 65. Sounds like you need to join a union. They fight for this kind of thing you know. Funny you should say that - I joined Unite after the Union thread on here!!
I've helped loads of people in my time as a union rep. As long as any union group in a workplace doesn't take the mickey, you find productivity gets better because the workforce are generally happier. What's their plan to stop people living longer? obesity and diebetes
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Feb 15 10.50pm |
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Quote Seth at 01 Nov 2014 12.44am
It's interesting that the focus is always on the people like firefighters and nurses who risk their lives for not very good money to take cuts, instead of the parasitical fat cat bankers and politicians who caused the financial sh*tstorm in the first place. Amazingly, bankers and MP's have very comfortable pay and pension arrangements, yet use the media to attack those at the bottom of the pile for taking a few crumbs when they are gorging on truffles and caviar at our expense. Divide and rule really is a very effective tactic for those in power. Just a shame so many people continue to fall for it.
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| imbored UK 24 Feb 15 3.38pm |
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Quote silvertop at 24 Feb 2015 2.25pm
Quote Seth at 01 Nov 2014 12.44am
It's interesting that the focus is always on the people like firefighters and nurses who risk their lives for not very good money to take cuts, instead of the parasitical fat cat bankers and politicians who caused the financial sh*tstorm in the first place. Amazingly, bankers and MP's have very comfortable pay and pension arrangements, yet use the media to attack those at the bottom of the pile for taking a few crumbs when they are gorging on truffles and caviar at our expense. Divide and rule really is a very effective tactic for those in power. Just a shame so many people continue to fall for it.
Not really. It's similar to people frothing at the mouth over benefits cheats. They cost the UK taxpayer 1.2 billion per year. Tax avoiders cost the taxpayer 120 billion. And of course people with more money hold more influence.
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| Pussay Patrol 24 Feb 15 5.24pm |
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Quote Seth at 01 Nov 2014 12.44am
It's interesting that the focus is always on the people like firefighters and nurses who risk their lives for not very good money to take cuts, instead of the parasitical fat cat bankers and politicians who caused the financial sh*tstorm in the first place. Amazingly, bankers and MP's have very comfortable pay and pension arrangements, yet use the media to attack those at the bottom of the pile for taking a few crumbs when they are gorging on truffles and caviar at our expense. Divide and rule really is a very effective tactic for those in power. Just a shame so many people continue to fall for it.
Not really. It's similar to people frothing at the mouth over benefits cheats. They cost the UK taxpayer 1.2 billion per year. Tax avoiders cost the taxpayer 120 billion. And of course people with more money hold more influence. But maybe there's more of a principle in that certain companies and / or individuals may not pay the full amount of tax that could possibly be levied but they are still ones who put into the pot whereas benefit cheats are taking from the pot I would be comfortable dodging a few taxes here and there as I know I am a net contributor to the economy, not a drain on it.
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| TUX redhill 24 Feb 15 5.45pm |
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Quote Pussay Patrol at 24 Feb 2015 5.24pm
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Quote silvertop at 24 Feb 2015 2.25pm
Quote Seth at 01 Nov 2014 12.44am
It's interesting that the focus is always on the people like firefighters and nurses who risk their lives for not very good money to take cuts, instead of the parasitical fat cat bankers and politicians who caused the financial sh*tstorm in the first place. Amazingly, bankers and MP's have very comfortable pay and pension arrangements, yet use the media to attack those at the bottom of the pile for taking a few crumbs when they are gorging on truffles and caviar at our expense. Divide and rule really is a very effective tactic for those in power. Just a shame so many people continue to fall for it.
Not really. It's similar to people frothing at the mouth over benefits cheats. They cost the UK taxpayer 1.2 billion per year. Tax avoiders cost the taxpayer 120 billion. And of course people with more money hold more influence. But maybe there's more of a principle in that certain companies and / or individuals may not pay the full amount of tax that could possibly be levied but they are still ones who put into the pot whereas benefit cheats are taking from the pot I would be comfortable dodging a few taxes here and there as I know I am a net contributor to the economy, not a drain on it. There's obviously no ''principle'' involved when both are cheating but one side is doing it spectacularly better than the other. 2 minute hate?
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| kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 24 Feb 15 5.59pm |
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Quote TUX at 24 Feb 2015 5.45pm
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Quote imbored at 24 Feb 2015 3.38pm
Quote silvertop at 24 Feb 2015 2.25pm
Quote Seth at 01 Nov 2014 12.44am
It's interesting that the focus is always on the people like firefighters and nurses who risk their lives for not very good money to take cuts, instead of the parasitical fat cat bankers and politicians who caused the financial sh*tstorm in the first place. Amazingly, bankers and MP's have very comfortable pay and pension arrangements, yet use the media to attack those at the bottom of the pile for taking a few crumbs when they are gorging on truffles and caviar at our expense. Divide and rule really is a very effective tactic for those in power. Just a shame so many people continue to fall for it.
Not really. It's similar to people frothing at the mouth over benefits cheats. They cost the UK taxpayer 1.2 billion per year. Tax avoiders cost the taxpayer 120 billion. And of course people with more money hold more influence. But maybe there's more of a principle in that certain companies and / or individuals may not pay the full amount of tax that could possibly be levied but they are still ones who put into the pot whereas benefit cheats are taking from the pot I would be comfortable dodging a few taxes here and there as I know I am a net contributor to the economy, not a drain on it. There's obviously no ''principle'' involved when both are cheating but one side is doing it spectacularly better than the other. 2 minute hate?
don't feel too sorry for the fireman(regarding wages, not the job they do,which I have the utmost respect)
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| elgrande bedford 24 Feb 15 6.16pm |
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Quote kingdowieonthewall at 24 Feb 2015 5.59pm
Quote TUX at 24 Feb 2015 5.45pm
Quote Pussay Patrol at 24 Feb 2015 5.24pm
Quote imbored at 24 Feb 2015 3.38pm
Quote silvertop at 24 Feb 2015 2.25pm
Quote Seth at 01 Nov 2014 12.44am
It's interesting that the focus is always on the people like firefighters and nurses who risk their lives for not very good money to take cuts, instead of the parasitical fat cat bankers and politicians who caused the financial sh*tstorm in the first place. Amazingly, bankers and MP's have very comfortable pay and pension arrangements, yet use the media to attack those at the bottom of the pile for taking a few crumbs when they are gorging on truffles and caviar at our expense. Divide and rule really is a very effective tactic for those in power. Just a shame so many people continue to fall for it.
Not really. It's similar to people frothing at the mouth over benefits cheats. They cost the UK taxpayer 1.2 billion per year. Tax avoiders cost the taxpayer 120 billion. And of course people with more money hold more influence. But maybe there's more of a principle in that certain companies and / or individuals may not pay the full amount of tax that could possibly be levied but they are still ones who put into the pot whereas benefit cheats are taking from the pot I would be comfortable dodging a few taxes here and there as I know I am a net contributor to the economy, not a drain on it. There's obviously no ''principle'' involved when both are cheating but one side is doing it spectacularly better than the other. 2 minute hate?
don't feel too sorry for the fireman(regarding wages, not the job they do,which I have the utmost respect)
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| Pussay Patrol 24 Feb 15 6.29pm |
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Quote TUX at 24 Feb 2015 5.45pm
Quote Pussay Patrol at 24 Feb 2015 5.24pm
Quote imbored at 24 Feb 2015 3.38pm
Quote silvertop at 24 Feb 2015 2.25pm
Quote Seth at 01 Nov 2014 12.44am
It's interesting that the focus is always on the people like firefighters and nurses who risk their lives for not very good money to take cuts, instead of the parasitical fat cat bankers and politicians who caused the financial sh*tstorm in the first place. Amazingly, bankers and MP's have very comfortable pay and pension arrangements, yet use the media to attack those at the bottom of the pile for taking a few crumbs when they are gorging on truffles and caviar at our expense. Divide and rule really is a very effective tactic for those in power. Just a shame so many people continue to fall for it.
Not really. It's similar to people frothing at the mouth over benefits cheats. They cost the UK taxpayer 1.2 billion per year. Tax avoiders cost the taxpayer 120 billion. And of course people with more money hold more influence. But maybe there's more of a principle in that certain companies and / or individuals may not pay the full amount of tax that could possibly be levied but they are still ones who put into the pot whereas benefit cheats are taking from the pot I would be comfortable dodging a few taxes here and there as I know I am a net contributor to the economy, not a drain on it. There's obviously no ''principle'' involved when both are cheating but one side is doing it spectacularly better than the other. 2 minute hate?
Wasn't taking sides I was just making the point that there are those that put into the pot and those that take from it. I think that should be as big a consideration as the values you mentioned
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| imbored UK 24 Feb 15 6.45pm |
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Quote Pussay Patrol at 24 Feb 2015 6.29pm
Quote TUX at 24 Feb 2015 5.45pm
Quote Pussay Patrol at 24 Feb 2015 5.24pm
Quote imbored at 24 Feb 2015 3.38pm
Quote silvertop at 24 Feb 2015 2.25pm
Quote Seth at 01 Nov 2014 12.44am
It's interesting that the focus is always on the people like firefighters and nurses who risk their lives for not very good money to take cuts, instead of the parasitical fat cat bankers and politicians who caused the financial sh*tstorm in the first place. Amazingly, bankers and MP's have very comfortable pay and pension arrangements, yet use the media to attack those at the bottom of the pile for taking a few crumbs when they are gorging on truffles and caviar at our expense. Divide and rule really is a very effective tactic for those in power. Just a shame so many people continue to fall for it.
Not really. It's similar to people frothing at the mouth over benefits cheats. They cost the UK taxpayer 1.2 billion per year. Tax avoiders cost the taxpayer 120 billion. And of course people with more money hold more influence. But maybe there's more of a principle in that certain companies and / or individuals may not pay the full amount of tax that could possibly be levied but they are still ones who put into the pot whereas benefit cheats are taking from the pot I would be comfortable dodging a few taxes here and there as I know I am a net contributor to the economy, not a drain on it. There's obviously no ''principle'' involved when both are cheating but one side is doing it spectacularly better than the other. 2 minute hate?
Wasn't taking sides I was just making the point that there are those that put into the pot and those that take from it. I think that should be as big a consideration as the values you mentioned It's a pointless distinction when what people neglect to pay is 100 times more than what those on benefits cost us. If corporations and wealthy individuals find or create ways to pay much less than they should they are for all intents and purposes 'taking out of the pot' and in a way that impacts us much more than those on welfare.
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