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Stuk Top half 28 Jan 15 11.26pm
Quote Bert the Head at 28 Jan 2015 8.04pm Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 3.44pm Quote OknotOK at 28 Jan 2015 2.00pm Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm Not going to default, what a suprise. Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full. I can see that office having a revolving door on it. It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are. Bankers and football clubs seem to get away with not paying debts in full. Our beloved Palace have got away with it at least twice. Bankers? There's no administration option for countries, and if there was they've arguably already gone through it. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 28 Jan 15 11.26pm

Quote Bert the Head at 28 Jan 2015 8.04pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 3.44pm

Quote OknotOK at 28 Jan 2015 2.00pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm

Not going to default, what a suprise.

Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full.

I can see that office having a revolving door on it.

It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are.

Bankers and football clubs seem to get away with not paying debts in full. Our beloved Palace have got away with it at least twice.

Bankers?

There's no administration option for countries, and if there was they've arguably already gone through it.

Optimistic as ever

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Percy of Peckham Eton Mess 29 Jan 15 4.40am
I can't believe some of the things they've been sold by so called responsible creditors ... e.g. �3 billion spent on German built submarines and American supplied F16 aircraft. Greece has become the largest importer of conventional armaments in Europe and currently ranks fifth in the world. ....crazy!!!! Denial is not just a river in Egypt!
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I can't believe some of the things they've been sold by so called responsible creditors ... e.g. �3 billion spent on German built submarines and American supplied F16 aircraft. Greece has become the largest importer of conventional armaments in Europe and currently ranks fifth in the world. ....crazy!!!!

Denial is not just a river in Egypt!

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jamiemartin721 Reading 29 Jan 15 7.23am
Quote Percy of Peckham at 29 Jan 2015 4.40am I can't believe some of the things they've been sold by so called responsible creditors ... e.g. �3 billion spent on German built submarines and American supplied F16 aircraft. Greece has become the largest importer of conventional armaments in Europe and currently ranks fifth in the world. ....crazy!!!! That's because corruption tends to encourage such behaviour, you can be assured that certain individuals did very well out of these deals. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote Percy of Peckham at 29 Jan 2015 4.40am

That's because corruption tends to encourage such behaviour, you can be assured that certain individuals did very well out of these deals.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Bert the Head Epsom 29 Jan 15 10.19pm
Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 11.26pm Quote Bert the Head at 28 Jan 2015 8.04pm Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 3.44pm Quote OknotOK at 28 Jan 2015 2.00pm Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm Not going to default, what a suprise. Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full. I can see that office having a revolving door on it. It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are. Bankers and football clubs seem to get away with not paying debts in full. Our beloved Palace have got away with it at least twice. Bankers? There's no administration option for countries, and if there was they've arguably already gone through it. Administration is just a way of not paying debts and offering creditors less than they are due. A good proportion of the Banks debt was taken over by the state. Not paying your debts is ingrained in the Capitalist system through limited liability. So what is so different about the Greek state not paying their debts?
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Epsom 29 Jan 15 10.19pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 11.26pm

Quote Bert the Head at 28 Jan 2015 8.04pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 3.44pm

Quote OknotOK at 28 Jan 2015 2.00pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm

Not going to default, what a suprise.

Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full.

I can see that office having a revolving door on it.

It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are.

Bankers and football clubs seem to get away with not paying debts in full. Our beloved Palace have got away with it at least twice.

Bankers?

There's no administration option for countries, and if there was they've arguably already gone through it.

Administration is just a way of not paying debts and offering creditors less than they are due.

A good proportion of the Banks debt was taken over by the state.

Not paying your debts is ingrained in the Capitalist system through limited liability.

So what is so different about the Greek state not paying their debts?

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Stuk Top half 30 Jan 15 2.38pm
Quote Bert the Head at 29 Jan 2015 10.19pm Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 11.26pm Quote Bert the Head at 28 Jan 2015 8.04pm Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 3.44pm Quote OknotOK at 28 Jan 2015 2.00pm Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm Not going to default, what a suprise. Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full. I can see that office having a revolving door on it. It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are. Bankers and football clubs seem to get away with not paying debts in full. Our beloved Palace have got away with it at least twice. Bankers? There's no administration option for countries, and if there was they've arguably already gone through it. Administration is just a way of not paying debts and offering creditors less than they are due. A good proportion of the Banks debt was taken over by the state. Not paying your debts is ingrained in the Capitalist system through limited liability. So what is so different about the Greek state not paying their debts? For companies. Our bank's debts covered by the state will be repaid. With profit. Others would follow suit, and then we'd all be f***ed. They shouldn't have taken the bailout in the first place and gone bankrupt. They chose the bailout, so now repay it. Optimistic as ever
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Stuk

Top half 30 Jan 15 2.38pm

Quote Bert the Head at 29 Jan 2015 10.19pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 11.26pm

Quote Bert the Head at 28 Jan 2015 8.04pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 3.44pm

Quote OknotOK at 28 Jan 2015 2.00pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm

Not going to default, what a suprise.

Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full.

I can see that office having a revolving door on it.

It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are.

Bankers and football clubs seem to get away with not paying debts in full. Our beloved Palace have got away with it at least twice.

Bankers?

There's no administration option for countries, and if there was they've arguably already gone through it.

Administration is just a way of not paying debts and offering creditors less than they are due.

A good proportion of the Banks debt was taken over by the state.

Not paying your debts is ingrained in the Capitalist system through limited liability.

So what is so different about the Greek state not paying their debts?

For companies.

Our bank's debts covered by the state will be repaid. With profit.

Others would follow suit, and then we'd all be f***ed. They shouldn't have taken the bailout in the first place and gone bankrupt. They chose the bailout, so now repay it.

Optimistic as ever

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Bert the Head Epsom 30 Jan 15 11.26pm
Quote Stuk at 30 Jan 2015 2.38pm Quote Bert the Head at 29 Jan 2015 10.19pm Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 11.26pm Quote Bert the Head at 28 Jan 2015 8.04pm Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 3.44pm Quote OknotOK at 28 Jan 2015 2.00pm Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm Not going to default, what a suprise. Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full. I can see that office having a revolving door on it. It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are. Bankers and football clubs seem to get away with not paying debts in full. Our beloved Palace have got away with it at least twice. Bankers? There's no administration option for countries, and if there was they've arguably already gone through it. Administration is just a way of not paying debts and offering creditors less than they are due. A good proportion of the Banks debt was taken over by the state. Not paying your debts is ingrained in the Capitalist system through limited liability. So what is so different about the Greek state not paying their debts? For companies. Our bank's debts covered by the state will be repaid. With profit. Others would follow suit, and then we'd all be f***ed. They shouldn't have taken the bailout in the first place and gone bankrupt. They chose the bailout, so now repay it. They intend to repay it but over a longer time - when their economy is growing. Its just like supporting the banks through the bad times and taking the money back in the good They are just asking for the bad debts to be put to one side while they do this as is the case with the banks. Edited by Bert the Head (30 Jan 2015 11.28pm)
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Epsom 30 Jan 15 11.26pm

Quote Stuk at 30 Jan 2015 2.38pm

Quote Bert the Head at 29 Jan 2015 10.19pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 11.26pm

Quote Bert the Head at 28 Jan 2015 8.04pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 3.44pm

Quote OknotOK at 28 Jan 2015 2.00pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm

Not going to default, what a suprise.

Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full.

I can see that office having a revolving door on it.

It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are.

Bankers and football clubs seem to get away with not paying debts in full. Our beloved Palace have got away with it at least twice.

Bankers?

There's no administration option for countries, and if there was they've arguably already gone through it.

Administration is just a way of not paying debts and offering creditors less than they are due.

A good proportion of the Banks debt was taken over by the state.

Not paying your debts is ingrained in the Capitalist system through limited liability.

So what is so different about the Greek state not paying their debts?

For companies.

Our bank's debts covered by the state will be repaid. With profit.

Others would follow suit, and then we'd all be f***ed. They shouldn't have taken the bailout in the first place and gone bankrupt. They chose the bailout, so now repay it.

They intend to repay it but over a longer time - when their economy is growing. Its just like supporting the banks through the bad times and taking the money back
in the good

They are just asking for the bad debts to be put to one side while they do this as is the case with the banks.

Edited by Bert the Head (30 Jan 2015 11.28pm)

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Stuk Top half 02 Feb 15 3.48pm
Quote Bert the Head at 30 Jan 2015 11.26pm Quote Stuk at 30 Jan 2015 2.38pm Quote Bert the Head at 29 Jan 2015 10.19pm Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 11.26pm Quote Bert the Head at 28 Jan 2015 8.04pm Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 3.44pm Quote OknotOK at 28 Jan 2015 2.00pm Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm Not going to default, what a suprise. Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full. I can see that office having a revolving door on it. It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are. Bankers and football clubs seem to get away with not paying debts in full. Our beloved Palace have got away with it at least twice. Bankers? There's no administration option for countries, and if there was they've arguably already gone through it. Administration is just a way of not paying debts and offering creditors less than they are due. A good proportion of the Banks debt was taken over by the state. Not paying your debts is ingrained in the Capitalist system through limited liability. So what is so different about the Greek state not paying their debts? For companies. Our bank's debts covered by the state will be repaid. With profit. Others would follow suit, and then we'd all be f***ed. They shouldn't have taken the bailout in the first place and gone bankrupt. They chose the bailout, so now repay it. They intend to repay it but over a longer time - when their economy is growing. Its just like supporting the banks through the bad times and taking the money back in the good They are just asking for the bad debts to be put to one side while they do this as is the case with the banks. Edited by Bert the Head (30 Jan 2015 11.28pm) They aren't. They want hundreds of millions to be written off, which isn't going to happen. They've actually now chosen the method of sticking their heads in the sand. Optimistic as ever
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Stuk

Top half 02 Feb 15 3.48pm

Quote Bert the Head at 30 Jan 2015 11.26pm

Quote Stuk at 30 Jan 2015 2.38pm

Quote Bert the Head at 29 Jan 2015 10.19pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 11.26pm

Quote Bert the Head at 28 Jan 2015 8.04pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 3.44pm

Quote OknotOK at 28 Jan 2015 2.00pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jan 2015 1.05pm

Not going to default, what a suprise.

Yet the economics spokesman saying it is unrealistic to expect Greece to pay its debts in full.

I can see that office having a revolving door on it.

It's unrealistic that we are all paying off debts going back decades if not centuries, but we all are.

Bankers and football clubs seem to get away with not paying debts in full. Our beloved Palace have got away with it at least twice.

Bankers?

There's no administration option for countries, and if there was they've arguably already gone through it.

Administration is just a way of not paying debts and offering creditors less than they are due.

A good proportion of the Banks debt was taken over by the state.

Not paying your debts is ingrained in the Capitalist system through limited liability.

So what is so different about the Greek state not paying their debts?

For companies.

Our bank's debts covered by the state will be repaid. With profit.

Others would follow suit, and then we'd all be f***ed. They shouldn't have taken the bailout in the first place and gone bankrupt. They chose the bailout, so now repay it.

They intend to repay it but over a longer time - when their economy is growing. Its just like supporting the banks through the bad times and taking the money back
in the good

They are just asking for the bad debts to be put to one side while they do this as is the case with the banks.

Edited by Bert the Head (30 Jan 2015 11.28pm)

They aren't. They want hundreds of millions to be written off, which isn't going to happen.

They've actually now chosen the method of sticking their heads in the sand.

Optimistic as ever

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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 03 Feb 15 2.52pm
They are also saying they would veto TTIP now [Link] - another issue that unites both Syriza and their far right partners. "It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show
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Cockfosters, London 03 Feb 15 2.52pm

They are also saying they would veto TTIP now [Link] - another issue that unites both Syriza and their far right partners.

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 Feb 15 5.47pm
[Link] Some food for thought here...1st 15 minutes discusses Greece and the things that aren't told by mainstream media.
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Shizzlehurst 03 Feb 15 5.47pm

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Some food for thought here...1st 15 minutes discusses Greece and the things that aren't told by mainstream media.

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Johnny Eagles berlin 04 Feb 15 10.37am
Without wishing to lower the tone of the debate, did you see how the Greek finance minister turned up for his meeting with the Chancellor? [Link] I think it's brilliant! ...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...
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berlin 04 Feb 15 10.37am

Without wishing to lower the tone of the debate, did you see how the Greek finance minister turned up for his meeting with the Chancellor?

[Link]

I think it's brilliant!

...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...

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ghosteagle 05 Feb 15 5.12pm
Quote nickgusset at 03 Feb 2015 5.47pm [Link] Some food for thought here...1st 15 minutes discusses Greece and the things that aren't told by mainstream media. Interesting stuff.
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05 Feb 15 5.12pm