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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 16 Feb 15 9.23am

Quote We are goin up! at 16 Feb 2015 9.13am

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“Today it is still possible to leave school, sign on, find a flat, start claiming housing benefit and opt for a life on benefits. It’s time for bold action here,” he said. “We should ask, as we write our next manifesto, if that option should really exist at all.”

Also, this article is from 2013.

Its a shame that its not as possible though to leave school, find a job and afford to rent a flat. I wonder why people opt for the first scenario, when a tiny one bedroom flat around our way will set you back 750-1000 a month (or at least 350-400 a month in a shared house).

And that's before you throw in council tax, utilities and food.

Good luck affording one if you're a school leaver (or even a university graduate).


 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Feb 2015 9.23am

Quote We are goin up! at 16 Feb 2015 9.13am

How can anyone disagree with...

“Today it is still possible to leave school, sign on, find a flat, start claiming housing benefit and opt for a life on benefits. It’s time for bold action here,” he said. “We should ask, as we write our next manifesto, if that option should really exist at all.”

Also, this article is from 2013.

Its a shame that its not as possible though to leave school, find a job and afford to rent a flat. I wonder why people opt for the first scenario, when a tiny one bedroom flat around our way will set you back 750-1000 a month (or at least 350-400 a month in a shared house).

And that's before you throw in council tax, utilities and food.

Good luck affording one if you're a school leaver (or even a university graduate).


That's nothin new though. When I moved down to London in the mid 80s I was in a bedsit paying £60 a week when I only earned £120. I just had to suck it up and wait until I could afford to move.

I agree something needs to be done to make it easier but equally the sense of entitlement that a lot of people have needs to change.

 


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View npn's Profile npn Flag Crowborough 16 Feb 15 9.33am Send a Private Message to npn Add npn as a friend

If you're going to do that, you have to make alternatives available.
I'd have no problem with it IF they ensured that there were enough apprentiships available to say to school leavers "work, study, or apprentiship". Study is not an option for many (those from poorer backgrounds cannot often afford to 'carry' a non-working child without any income from them), but earning a wage from an apprentiship means you can contribute while furthering your own skills.

 

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View Shifty97's Profile Shifty97 Flag Croydon 16 Feb 15 11.42am Send a Private Message to Shifty97 Add Shifty97 as a friend

They are w@nkers I completely agree

 

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Hoof Hearted 16 Feb 15 11.49am

If this idea is implemented then I'm looking forward to seeing the lazy little barsteward aged 22 in my road get up out of bed before noon to go to work for the first time in his life, rather than relying on dole money for his fags and booze that he enjoys in the local park most afternoons.

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Quote Jimenez at 16 Feb 2015 12.01am

Serial Thriller must be under 25 ....


Or simply not a complete apathetic, selfish c*unt


Wind yer neck in.... I think their needs to be a middle ground. Far to many 16/17 year olds find quite acceptable to leave school and claim benefits. Offer firms/companies who employ more than 50 people tax breaks so that proper apprenticeships can be created. With all of todays technology no one except a complete f***wit should be flipping Burgers.....

 


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Quote Kosowski at 16 Feb 2015 1.22am

Quote Jimenez at 16 Feb 2015 12.01am

Serial Thriller must be under 25 ....


Or simply not a complete apathetic, selfish c*unt


.......or for that matter spending countless years at College/University doing useless courses which doesn't lead to a decent career. ie - Media studies or other such bollocks.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 16 Feb 15 12.00pm

What a ridiculous initial post

Why would anyone want to go straight on benefits after leaving full time education?

I think there are a few issues where people are badly advised or unsure about there work options after leaving full time education and naturally fall into the benefits system and there are also those who have studied in a specific field and found that work isn't out there. In either case, these types should not be supported by the state but encouraged to explore other options take any sort of available work as an interim measure. It's a logical policy.

 


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View Romford-Eagle's Profile Romford-Eagle Flag Romford 16 Feb 15 12.05pm Send a Private Message to Romford-Eagle Add Romford-Eagle as a friend

Why not just get a job....

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 16 Feb 15 12.08pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 16 Feb 2015 9.30am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Feb 2015 9.23am

Quote We are goin up! at 16 Feb 2015 9.13am

How can anyone disagree with...

“Today it is still possible to leave school, sign on, find a flat, start claiming housing benefit and opt for a life on benefits. It’s time for bold action here,” he said. “We should ask, as we write our next manifesto, if that option should really exist at all.”

Also, this article is from 2013.

Its a shame that its not as possible though to leave school, find a job and afford to rent a flat. I wonder why people opt for the first scenario, when a tiny one bedroom flat around our way will set you back 750-1000 a month (or at least 350-400 a month in a shared house).

And that's before you throw in council tax, utilities and food.

Good luck affording one if you're a school leaver (or even a university graduate).


That's nothin new though. When I moved down to London in the mid 80s I was in a bedsit paying £60 a week when I only earned £120. I just had to suck it up and wait until I could afford to move.

I agree something needs to be done to make it easier but equally the sense of entitlement that a lot of people have needs to change.

That's half your weekly income. 750 quid is likely 3/4 plus of the likely income of a school leaver etc. And this is Reading, not London.

Somewhere affordable to live isn't 'self entitlement' its a necessity (especially when you'll need to pony up two months deposit and agency fees, likely another grand up front).

Its hardly surprising that people opt for the housing benefit route, rather than work 40 hours a week to be in debt at the end of the month.


 


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Hoof Hearted 16 Feb 15 12.09pm

Quote Romford-Eagle at 16 Feb 2015 12.05pm

Why not just get a job....

Because the Tories and the Bankers with their bonuses, Jeremy Clark, Nigel Farage and Michael Gove have ruined Britain obviously!

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 16 Feb 15 12.12pm

Quote Jimenez at 16 Feb 2015 11.54am

Quote Kosowski at 16 Feb 2015 1.22am

Quote Jimenez at 16 Feb 2015 12.01am

Serial Thriller must be under 25 ....


Or simply not a complete apathetic, selfish c*unt


.......or for that matter spending countless years at College/University doing useless courses which doesn't lead to a decent career. ie - Media studies or other such bollocks.

Yes, because the role of media in the 20th and 21st century is entirely redundant. This media thing will never catch on.

 


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