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 serial thriller  The Promised Land 16 Feb 15 10.30pm |
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Quote Pussay Patrol at 16 Feb 2015 12.00pm
What a ridiculous initial post Why would anyone want to go straight on benefits after leaving full time education? I think there are a few issues where people are badly advised or unsure about there work options after leaving full time education and naturally fall into the benefits system and there are also those who have studied in a specific field and found that work isn't out there. In either case, these types should not be supported by the state but encouraged to explore other options take any sort of available work as an interim measure. It's a logical policy.
I'm pretty lucky because I've got a job, although I had to look f*cking hard to get it. But I have mates who are unemployed, and I have mates on apprenticeships and poverty pay and the idea that it is somehow aspirational to be in those positions is so out of touch it's obscene. There is practically no job security at all, my mate who works at a car dealership got told the other day the place he's working's being closed and that's that. No offer of help to find a new job, very short notice, and all of a sudden he's out on his arse again looking for work. The fact that he may need benefits for a short term while he finds another job is surely not a terrible idea, and it's one I certainly am glad to pay taxes towards given that I know, having worked on zero-hour contracts, how plausible a situation it can be. What this really shows though is that austerity isn't about economics, it's an ideological thing. The Tories aren't cutting benefits for the poor because they want to get rid of the deficit, Cameron himself basically says it in the link I posted. They're doing it because they believe the lack of a financial safety cushion will make working for joke salaries under terrible terms a more invariable route for loads of kids, thus boosting employment figures going in to May. They really don't give a sh*t about the people involved, it's pure self-aggrandisement.
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Quote serial thriller at 16 Feb 2015 10.30pm
Quote Pussay Patrol at 16 Feb 2015 12.00pm
What a ridiculous initial post Why would anyone want to go straight on benefits after leaving full time education? I think there are a few issues where people are badly advised or unsure about there work options after leaving full time education and naturally fall into the benefits system and there are also those who have studied in a specific field and found that work isn't out there. In either case, these types should not be supported by the state but encouraged to explore other options take any sort of available work as an interim measure. It's a logical policy.
I'm pretty lucky because I've got a job, although I had to look f*cking hard to get it. But I have mates who are unemployed, and I have mates on apprenticeships and poverty pay and the idea that it is somehow aspirational to be in those positions is so out of touch it's obscene. There is practically no job security at all, my mate who works at a car dealership got told the other day the place he's working's being closed and that's that. No offer of help to find a new job, very short notice, and all of a sudden he's out on his arse again looking for work. The fact that he may need benefits for a short term while he finds another job is surely not a terrible idea, and it's one I certainly am glad to pay taxes towards given that I know, having worked on zero-hour contracts, how plausible a situation it can be. What this really shows though is that austerity isn't about economics, it's an ideological thing. The Tories aren't cutting benefits for the poor because they want to get rid of the deficit, Cameron himself basically says it in the link I posted. They're doing it because they believe the lack of a financial safety cushion will make working for joke salaries under terrible terms a more invariable route for loads of kids, thus boosting employment figures going in to May. They really don't give a sh*t about the people involved, it's pure self-aggrandisement.
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| Hoof Hearted 17 Feb 15 11.24am | |
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Quote serial thriller at 16 Feb 2015 10.30pm
Quote Pussay Patrol at 16 Feb 2015 12.00pm
What a ridiculous initial post Why would anyone want to go straight on benefits after leaving full time education? I think there are a few issues where people are badly advised or unsure about there work options after leaving full time education and naturally fall into the benefits system and there are also those who have studied in a specific field and found that work isn't out there. In either case, these types should not be supported by the state but encouraged to explore other options take any sort of available work as an interim measure. It's a logical policy.
I'm pretty lucky because I've got a job, although I had to look f*cking hard to get it. But I have mates who are unemployed, and I have mates on apprenticeships and poverty pay and the idea that it is somehow aspirational to be in those positions is so out of touch it's obscene. There is practically no job security at all, my mate who works at a car dealership got told the other day the place he's working's being closed and that's that. No offer of help to find a new job, very short notice, and all of a sudden he's out on his arse again looking for work. The fact that he may need benefits for a short term while he finds another job is surely not a terrible idea, and it's one I certainly am glad to pay taxes towards given that I know, having worked on zero-hour contracts, how plausible a situation it can be. What this really shows though is that austerity isn't about economics, it's an ideological thing. The Tories aren't cutting benefits for the poor because they want to get rid of the deficit, Cameron himself basically says it in the link I posted. They're doing it because they believe the lack of a financial safety cushion will make working for joke salaries under terrible terms a more invariable route for loads of kids, thus boosting employment figures going in to May. They really don't give a sh*t about the people involved, it's pure self-aggrandisement.
Edited by Hoof Hearted (17 Feb 2015 11.24am)
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| Lyons550 Shirley 17 Feb 15 1.16pm |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Feb 2015 2.27pm
They didn't support me. It was made very clear to me that to stay in their house I had to get a job, pay them rent at the going rate and clear up after myself and take a fair share of the other household tasks.
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| ghosteagle 17 Feb 15 3.28pm |
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Quote Lyons550 at 17 Feb 2015 1.16pm
Quote pefwin at 16 Feb 2015 2.31pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Feb 2015 2.27pm
They didn't support me. It was made very clear to me that to stay in their house I had to get a job, pay them rent at the going rate and clear up after myself and take a fair share of the other household tasks.
And me, except i had to pay £1000 to live in a hole in the garden and was only fed on handfuls of gravel. And i had to build my bike out of bits of scrap, and build them a new house next to the old one etc, etc, etc (see Monty Python sketch for full listings of what young people nowadays fail to understand........)
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 17 Feb 15 3.38pm |
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Quote serial thriller at 15 Feb 2015 11.39pm
Just in case you didn't realise... I don't even know where to begin. They are c*nts, out of touch, heartless, bloodthirsty c*nts of the highest order and I hope that Ed Milliband wins a landslide not because I like Labour, but just to rub in in these horrible conceited c*nts' faces that even a morally bankrupt party like Labour with a clown as leader is more popular than their brand of victimising, fear-inducing alienating politics. F*ck you Cameron. F*ck you.
At the heart of Mr Cameron’s speech was the suggestion that young people would no longer be eligible for welfare. “Today it is still possible to leave school, sign on, find a flat, start claiming housing benefit and opt for a life on benefits. It’s time for bold action here,” he said. “We should ask, as we write our next manifesto, if that option should really exist at all.” Instead, young people should have a “clear, positive choice” to go to school or college, do an apprenticeship or get a job. “But just choose the dole? We’ve got to offer them something
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| ghosteagle 17 Feb 15 3.40pm |
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Quote dannyh at 17 Feb 2015 3.38pm
Quote serial thriller at 15 Feb 2015 11.39pm
Just in case you didn't realise... I don't even know where to begin. They are c*nts, out of touch, heartless, bloodthirsty c*nts of the highest order and I hope that Ed Milliband wins a landslide not because I like Labour, but just to rub in in these horrible conceited c*nts' faces that even a morally bankrupt party like Labour with a clown as leader is more popular than their brand of victimising, fear-inducing alienating politics. F*ck you Cameron. F*ck you.
At the heart of Mr Cameron’s speech was the suggestion that young people would no longer be eligible for welfare. “Today it is still possible to leave school, sign on, find a flat, start claiming housing benefit and opt for a life on benefits. It’s time for bold action here,” he said. “We should ask, as we write our next manifesto, if that option should really exist at all.” Instead, young people should have a “clear, positive choice” to go to school or college, do an apprenticeship or get a job. “But just choose the dole? We’ve got to offer them something
Dave has no heart, and neither do his speeches.
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 17 Feb 15 4.39pm |
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Quote ghosteagle at 17 Feb 2015 3.40pm
Quote dannyh at 17 Feb 2015 3.38pm
Quote serial thriller at 15 Feb 2015 11.39pm
Just in case you didn't realise... I don't even know where to begin. They are c*nts, out of touch, heartless, bloodthirsty c*nts of the highest order and I hope that Ed Milliband wins a landslide not because I like Labour, but just to rub in in these horrible conceited c*nts' faces that even a morally bankrupt party like Labour with a clown as leader is more popular than their brand of victimising, fear-inducing alienating politics. F*ck you Cameron. F*ck you.
At the heart of Mr Cameron’s speech was the suggestion that young people would no longer be eligible for welfare. “Today it is still possible to leave school, sign on, find a flat, start claiming housing benefit and opt for a life on benefits. It’s time for bold action here,” he said. “We should ask, as we write our next manifesto, if that option should really exist at all.” Instead, young people should have a “clear, positive choice” to go to school or college, do an apprenticeship or get a job. “But just choose the dole? We’ve got to offer them something
Dave has no heart, and neither do his speeches.
And if you are a youngun leaving school expecting everyone else to pay for you, your weed, your illigitamte kids, fags, sky, Iphone, Stella and everything else that apparently is your God given right then I would suggest Mr Cameron is talking to you. You lazy work shy bastad. And I don't mean Ghost eagle by that (I dont want another yellow Edited by dannyh (17 Feb 2015 4.40pm)
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) I just meant in general.| ghosteagle 18 Feb 15 3.36pm |
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Quote dannyh at 17 Feb 2015 4.39pm
Quote ghosteagle at 17 Feb 2015 3.40pm
Quote dannyh at 17 Feb 2015 3.38pm
Quote serial thriller at 15 Feb 2015 11.39pm
Just in case you didn't realise... I don't even know where to begin. They are c*nts, out of touch, heartless, bloodthirsty c*nts of the highest order and I hope that Ed Milliband wins a landslide not because I like Labour, but just to rub in in these horrible conceited c*nts' faces that even a morally bankrupt party like Labour with a clown as leader is more popular than their brand of victimising, fear-inducing alienating politics. F*ck you Cameron. F*ck you.
At the heart of Mr Cameron’s speech was the suggestion that young people would no longer be eligible for welfare. “Today it is still possible to leave school, sign on, find a flat, start claiming housing benefit and opt for a life on benefits. It’s time for bold action here,” he said. “We should ask, as we write our next manifesto, if that option should really exist at all.” Instead, young people should have a “clear, positive choice” to go to school or college, do an apprenticeship or get a job. “But just choose the dole? We’ve got to offer them something
Dave has no heart, and neither do his speeches.
And if you are a youngun leaving school expecting everyone else to pay for you, your weed, your illigitamte kids, fags, sky, Iphone, Stella and everything else that apparently is your God given right then I would suggest Mr Cameron is talking to you. You lazy work shy bastad. And I don't mean Ghost eagle by that (I dont want another yellow Edited by dannyh (17 Feb 2015 4.40pm) Iphones, Stella & Sky are the work of the Devil and so therefore not god-given.
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| Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 18 Feb 15 4.57pm |
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Quote dannyh at 17 Feb 2015 3.38pm
If we are using the f~ck word then you're a f#cking drama queen.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Feb 15 5.30pm |
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Young people under 25 could be made to do up to 30 hours community work a week to recieve £57 'Youth allowance' That's about £1.91 an hour... That's one way to drive the low wage immigrant economy out I spose.
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 18 Feb 15 6.06pm |
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Quote dannyh at 17 Feb 2015 3.38pm
Quote serial thriller at 15 Feb 2015 11.39pm
Just in case you didn't realise... I don't even know where to begin. They are c*nts, out of touch, heartless, bloodthirsty c*nts of the highest order and I hope that Ed Milliband wins a landslide not because I like Labour, but just to rub in in these horrible conceited c*nts' faces that even a morally bankrupt party like Labour with a clown as leader is more popular than their brand of victimising, fear-inducing alienating politics. F*ck you Cameron. F*ck you.
At the heart of Mr Cameron’s speech was the suggestion that young people would no longer be eligible for welfare. “Today it is still possible to leave school, sign on, find a flat, start claiming housing benefit and opt for a life on benefits. It’s time for bold action here,” he said. “We should ask, as we write our next manifesto, if that option should really exist at all.” Instead, young people should have a “clear, positive choice” to go to school or college, do an apprenticeship or get a job. “But just choose the dole? We’ve got to offer them something
What the Tories have very cunningly done (after all, w@nkers do tend to be very cunning) is frame the whole thing around the popular image of the 'benefit scrounger'. Even though so much information has come out proving just how exaggerated an issue this is, even though benefits have been squeezed and squeezed and squeezed in recent years, and even though the Joseph Rowntree Foundation found that there is no correlation between removing benefits and people looking for work, it's still so appealing: it's difficult to defend that sort of lifestyle, even if only a few thousand people live by it. But of course we're not talking about a policy which will only affect the long-term unemployed; we're talking about something that will affect the hundreds of thousands of kids who will seek benefits for totally legitimate reasons. Maybe you work in construction and you break your leg, or maybe you try to set up a business and it goes tits up. Where previously the state intervened to provide you with financial support, if Cameron gets his wish it no longer will and you will instead be forced in to a joke job just to pay the bills. That's cunning, really f*cking cunning because it means not only do the Tories get to pander to the Daily Mail readers who genuinely believe the country is buckling under the millions of benefit scroungers, but it means the Tories enter the election with record employment figures, while their mates in big business find a new pool of workers willing to work for pennies on insecure contracts. And so, to wrap up in typically dramatic fashion, they are all c*nts and are first against the wall come the revolution.
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