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View dannyb1's Profile dannyb1 Flag Chichester 27 Jul 15 11.31am Send a Private Message to dannyb1 Add dannyb1 as a friend

I'm pretty sure that decision in Holland was to be u turned not 100% but remember reading it.
There is a black market in Holland mainly to supply the coffee shops.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 27 Jul 15 12.55pm

Quote dannyb1 at 27 Jul 2015 11.31am

I'm pretty sure that decision in Holland was to be u turned not 100% but remember reading it.
There is a black market in Holland mainly to supply the coffee shops.

Yep. Somehow half a kilo at a time, it goes from being a major crime, to being totally illegal, from the moment it crosses a threshold. Technically coffee shop owners might well be breaking the law if they put their takings into the bank as well.

In the US, you can face 25 years or more for selling medical approved cannabis if you deposit the takings in a Federal bank, as it then becomes a DEA or FBI matter of money laundering.

It really highlights the absurdity of Drug laws, and the moralistic tub-thumpers who insist on an absurdly ineffective, and costly, criminal justice solution.

 


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Quote matt_himself at 16 Feb 2015 4.55am

Think again, hippies...

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Think again matt

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 06 Aug 15 11.23am

Quote dannyb1 at 05 Aug 2015 9.15am

Quote matt_himself at 16 Feb 2015 4.55am

Think again, hippies...

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Think again matt

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There is probably some truth in both examples. The problem is how the research groups are selected in the psychiatric study, as its within groups experiencing psychosis, comparing those who have a history with weed and those that don't. Alcohol also produces the same results by the way (which is why schizophrenics are generally not included in studies involving alcoholism).

Where as the example in the Mirror is based in a social study based on young adult males, without a bias towards those who have mental health problems.

This actually ties with the general medical stance which is that except in very extreme cases, substance abuse is not a significant causal factor in mental health problems - Its only a factor where individuals are pre-disposed towards a mental illness, in which case it may accelerate onset.

Its worth noting as well that some illegal drugs actually have a beneficial therapeutic effect in some cases of mental health, that tends to be overlooked by anti-campaigners (MDMA in PTSD and trauma counseling, Psychedelics in Depression and Addiction, Ketamine in Depression and so on). In some cases, a similar case can be made that the use of certain drugs might delay the onset of mental health problems, such as depression, even if they increase the risk of early onset of psychosis.

Studies in psychedelics, recently showed that 75% of people who took psilocybin (Mushrooms) rated the experience in the top five most meaningful experiences of their lives, with 37% rating it as the single most meaningful experience of their lives.


 


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Staff rarely phone in sick with a Jamaican hangover than if they've been out on the beer.

 

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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 13 Aug 15 8.23am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Jul 2015 9.50am

Quote fed up eagle at 24 Jul 2015 7.49pm

There is no war on drugs anymore. Police turn a blind eye because they know that they'll be forced to take on a mountain of paperwork, and it's readily available on every street corner and every side alley.

Well not quite that extreme, but its a war that can't be won, ultimately has no value to society, and massively hampers police resources. Most police officers seem to think its a futile gesture aimed at a false moral stance, perpetuated by a tabloid media's love of scaremongering, rather than reporting.

And its been far more damaging for society, here and internationally, than the Volstead act in the US was (given its been going on for 50 years).

If you can't win a war, when the other side is on drugs....

What is really damaging to society is drug use and dependence. Every means available should be used to attack and destroy the 'business'. Those means might well involve legalised use of drugs, where the degenerate addicts would go to clinics to indulge in their wholly stupid activities, and where attempts can be made to get some sense back into what passes, or what is left of their brains.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 13 Aug 15 2.43pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 13 Aug 2015 8.23am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Jul 2015 9.50am

Quote fed up eagle at 24 Jul 2015 7.49pm

There is no war on drugs anymore. Police turn a blind eye because they know that they'll be forced to take on a mountain of paperwork, and it's readily available on every street corner and every side alley.

Well not quite that extreme, but its a war that can't be won, ultimately has no value to society, and massively hampers police resources. Most police officers seem to think its a futile gesture aimed at a false moral stance, perpetuated by a tabloid media's love of scaremongering, rather than reporting.

And its been far more damaging for society, here and internationally, than the Volstead act in the US was (given its been going on for 50 years).

If you can't win a war, when the other side is on drugs....

What is really damaging to society is drug use and dependence. Every means available should be used to attack and destroy the 'business'. Those means might well involve legalised use of drugs, where the degenerate addicts would go to clinics to indulge in their wholly stupid activities, and where attempts can be made to get some sense back into what passes, or what is left of their brains.

My main concern is that the price paid by non-drug users is increased crime, increased corruption and increased criminal control over areas. They're ultimately the ones who prohibition really hurts. Its a multi-billion pound industry in the hands of organized and disorganized crime.

Gangs are very dependent on the huge profits drugs bring compared to other sources of crime, resulting domination of the market by violence, both against other gangs, and ordinary citizens (as well as communities being isolated from the police, who could do with a 25% drop in crime).


 


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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston 13 Aug 15 3.50pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Shakespeare smoked weed.
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We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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