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Mayweather has dodged PacMan for years. There's no doubt about that. He's watched his light fade and then agreed to fight him. Wouldn't expect anything less from Mayweather. 5 years ago PacMan was putting on some of the most impressive diaplays in the ring that I have witnessed in my 35 years. To say that Maywether would still have beaten him when Manny was in his prime is just wrong. There's no telling now which way it would have gone though but I think, over the course of a few fights(which is what we should have had) the decisions would have been shared.
Ultimately Maywether has robbed us of what could have been some of the most thrilling boxing bouts in the sports history. This, as well as the woman bashing is why I will never respect him.


Disagree, think the gap would have been wider.

One has to question Pacquiao's reluctance to take a blood test coinciding with his quite incredible rise through the weight classess whilst seemingly increasing his explosive punching power which was then followed by a huuuuuuuge decline in speed and power when drug testing was suggested and rejected.

5 years down the line and miraculously, Pacquiao can now handle a blood test that would normally "significantly weaken" him.

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)


So you are suggesting Pacquiao took steroids ?

And you think that is unusual among sportsmen ?

I'm suggesting it's a possibility. And no, i don't think it's unusual. What i think is unusual is how often it's suggested Mayweather dodged Pacquiao but no the other way, considering the facts.


Well why would Pacquiao avoid Mayweather ? Surely it was in his interests to fight him but not necessarily the other way around.

He may have had no choice but to avoid him due to the PED's he may have been taking.It's important to remember that Mayweather originally agreed to the fight with the stipulation that random blood testing was carried out.

It was Pacquiao who wouldn't agree to that and thus "dodged" the fight.

Pacquiao might have refused the conditions but Mayweather would have know that he had no choice.
If he really wanted the fight he would not have insisted on any conditions.

Which suggests he knew something we didn't.

It's not exactly an unreasonable demand. Many have agreed since, including Pacqiuao. Had he agreed then, the fight would have gone ahead.


But if Mayweather did know that Paquiao was on the gear, then he would also know that he couldn't submit to blood testing. Therefore Mayweather cleverly avoided the fight.


He called his bluff. Why would you fight someone you suspect of cheating?

As for the fight. Mayweather did exactly what he wanted and what he always does. The best boxer ever, no doubt about it.

 


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Mayweather has dodged PacMan for years. There's no doubt about that. He's watched his light fade and then agreed to fight him. Wouldn't expect anything less from Mayweather. 5 years ago PacMan was putting on some of the most impressive diaplays in the ring that I have witnessed in my 35 years. To say that Maywether would still have beaten him when Manny was in his prime is just wrong. There's no telling now which way it would have gone though but I think, over the course of a few fights(which is what we should have had) the decisions would have been shared.
Ultimately Maywether has robbed us of what could have been some of the most thrilling boxing bouts in the sports history. This, as well as the woman bashing is why I will never respect him.


Disagree, think the gap would have been wider.

One has to question Pacquiao's reluctance to take a blood test coinciding with his quite incredible rise through the weight classess whilst seemingly increasing his explosive punching power which was then followed by a huuuuuuuge decline in speed and power when drug testing was suggested and rejected.

5 years down the line and miraculously, Pacquiao can now handle a blood test that would normally "significantly weaken" him.

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)


So you are suggesting Pacquiao took steroids ?

And you think that is unusual among sportsmen ?

I'm suggesting it's a possibility. And no, i don't think it's unusual. What i think is unusual is how often it's suggested Mayweather dodged Pacquiao but no the other way, considering the facts.


Well why would Pacquiao avoid Mayweather ? Surely it was in his interests to fight him but not necessarily the other way around.

He may have had no choice but to avoid him due to the PED's he may have been taking.It's important to remember that Mayweather originally agreed to the fight with the stipulation that random blood testing was carried out.

It was Pacquiao who wouldn't agree to that and thus "dodged" the fight.

Pacquiao might have refused the conditions but Mayweather would have know that he had no choice.
If he really wanted the fight he would not have insisted on any conditions.

Which suggests he knew something we didn't.

It's not exactly an unreasonable demand. Many have agreed since, including Pacqiuao. Had he agreed then, the fight would have gone ahead.


But if Mayweather did know that Paquiao was on the gear, then he would also know that he couldn't submit to blood testing. Therefore Mayweather cleverly avoided the fight.


He called his bluff. Why would you fight someone you suspect of cheating?

As for the fight. Mayweather did exactly what he wanted and what he always does. The best boxer ever, no doubt about it.

He is incredibly good at doing what he does but the irony is that in so many ways he doesn't exactly do the sport any favours.

 

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Not to the casual fan he doesn't, but for those that love watching boxing he's a joy to watch.

Is someone really suggesting that Mayweather avoided the fight because he would only fight a proven drug free Pacquiao? ffs

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Not to the casual fan he doesn't, but for those that love watching boxing he's a joy to watch.


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I agree but the popularity of boxing is being tested like never before. UFC and the like really appeal to the younger crowd. I fear that what might be one of the last 'super fights' didn't really act as a great advert for the sport.

 

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Mayweather has dodged PacMan for years. There's no doubt about that. He's watched his light fade and then agreed to fight him. Wouldn't expect anything less from Mayweather. 5 years ago PacMan was putting on some of the most impressive diaplays in the ring that I have witnessed in my 35 years. To say that Maywether would still have beaten him when Manny was in his prime is just wrong. There's no telling now which way it would have gone though but I think, over the course of a few fights(which is what we should have had) the decisions would have been shared.
Ultimately Maywether has robbed us of what could have been some of the most thrilling boxing bouts in the sports history. This, as well as the woman bashing is why I will never respect him.


Disagree, think the gap would have been wider.

One has to question Pacquiao's reluctance to take a blood test coinciding with his quite incredible rise through the weight classess whilst seemingly increasing his explosive punching power which was then followed by a huuuuuuuge decline in speed and power when drug testing was suggested and rejected.

5 years down the line and miraculously, Pacquiao can now handle a blood test that would normally "significantly weaken" him.

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)


So you are suggesting Pacquiao took steroids ?

And you think that is unusual among sportsmen ?

I'm suggesting it's a possibility. And no, i don't think it's unusual. What i think is unusual is how often it's suggested Mayweather dodged Pacquiao but no the other way, considering the facts.


Well why would Pacquiao avoid Mayweather ? Surely it was in his interests to fight him but not necessarily the other way around.

He may have had no choice but to avoid him due to the PED's he may have been taking.It's important to remember that Mayweather originally agreed to the fight with the stipulation that random blood testing was carried out.

It was Pacquiao who wouldn't agree to that and thus "dodged" the fight.

Pacquiao might have refused the conditions but Mayweather would have know that he had no choice.
If he really wanted the fight he would not have insisted on any conditions.

Which suggests he knew something we didn't.

It's not exactly an unreasonable demand. Many have agreed since, including Pacqiuao. Had he agreed then, the fight would have gone ahead.


But if Mayweather did know that Paquiao was on the gear, then he would also know that he couldn't submit to blood testing. Therefore Mayweather cleverly avoided the fight.


He called his bluff. Why would you fight someone you suspect of cheating?

As for the fight. Mayweather did exactly what he wanted and what he always does. The best boxer ever, no doubt about it.

He is incredibly good at doing what he does but the irony is that in so many ways he doesn't exactly do the sport any favours.


I'm quite sure he doesn't care, and nor should he. It's not in his interest to get hurt, or make it potential, to please the public.

I dare say Dirrell v DeGale will be a better fight, but that doesn't make them better boxers.

 


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Mayweather has dodged PacMan for years. There's no doubt about that. He's watched his light fade and then agreed to fight him. Wouldn't expect anything less from Mayweather. 5 years ago PacMan was putting on some of the most impressive diaplays in the ring that I have witnessed in my 35 years. To say that Maywether would still have beaten him when Manny was in his prime is just wrong. There's no telling now which way it would have gone though but I think, over the course of a few fights(which is what we should have had) the decisions would have been shared.
Ultimately Maywether has robbed us of what could have been some of the most thrilling boxing bouts in the sports history. This, as well as the woman bashing is why I will never respect him.


Disagree, think the gap would have been wider.

One has to question Pacquiao's reluctance to take a blood test coinciding with his quite incredible rise through the weight classess whilst seemingly increasing his explosive punching power which was then followed by a huuuuuuuge decline in speed and power when drug testing was suggested and rejected.

5 years down the line and miraculously, Pacquiao can now handle a blood test that would normally "significantly weaken" him.

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)


So you are suggesting Pacquiao took steroids ?

And you think that is unusual among sportsmen ?

I'm suggesting it's a possibility. And no, i don't think it's unusual. What i think is unusual is how often it's suggested Mayweather dodged Pacquiao but no the other way, considering the facts.


Well why would Pacquiao avoid Mayweather ? Surely it was in his interests to fight him but not necessarily the other way around.

He may have had no choice but to avoid him due to the PED's he may have been taking.It's important to remember that Mayweather originally agreed to the fight with the stipulation that random blood testing was carried out.

It was Pacquiao who wouldn't agree to that and thus "dodged" the fight.

Pacquiao might have refused the conditions but Mayweather would have know that he had no choice.
If he really wanted the fight he would not have insisted on any conditions.

Which suggests he knew something we didn't.

It's not exactly an unreasonable demand. Many have agreed since, including Pacqiuao. Had he agreed then, the fight would have gone ahead.


But if Mayweather did know that Paquiao was on the gear, then he would also know that he couldn't submit to blood testing. Therefore Mayweather cleverly avoided the fight.


He called his bluff. Why would you fight someone you suspect of cheating?

As for the fight. Mayweather did exactly what he wanted and what he always does. The best boxer ever, no doubt about it.


You cannot be serious.

Mayweathyer certainly is not the best boxer ever and he clearly, in my view, used the blood test gambit to avoid the fight. Why risk fighting someone who might beat you when you can keep earning massive money fighting people you know you can beat. That is how boxing works, unless you value the challenge over the money.

 

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Mayweather has dodged PacMan for years. There's no doubt about that. He's watched his light fade and then agreed to fight him. Wouldn't expect anything less from Mayweather. 5 years ago PacMan was putting on some of the most impressive diaplays in the ring that I have witnessed in my 35 years. To say that Maywether would still have beaten him when Manny was in his prime is just wrong. There's no telling now which way it would have gone though but I think, over the course of a few fights(which is what we should have had) the decisions would have been shared.
Ultimately Maywether has robbed us of what could have been some of the most thrilling boxing bouts in the sports history. This, as well as the woman bashing is why I will never respect him.


Disagree, think the gap would have been wider.

One has to question Pacquiao's reluctance to take a blood test coinciding with his quite incredible rise through the weight classess whilst seemingly increasing his explosive punching power which was then followed by a huuuuuuuge decline in speed and power when drug testing was suggested and rejected.

5 years down the line and miraculously, Pacquiao can now handle a blood test that would normally "significantly weaken" him.

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)


So you are suggesting Pacquiao took steroids ?

And you think that is unusual among sportsmen ?

I'm suggesting it's a possibility. And no, i don't think it's unusual. What i think is unusual is how often it's suggested Mayweather dodged Pacquiao but no the other way, considering the facts.


Well why would Pacquiao avoid Mayweather ? Surely it was in his interests to fight him but not necessarily the other way around.

He may have had no choice but to avoid him due to the PED's he may have been taking.It's important to remember that Mayweather originally agreed to the fight with the stipulation that random blood testing was carried out.

It was Pacquiao who wouldn't agree to that and thus "dodged" the fight.

Pacquiao might have refused the conditions but Mayweather would have know that he had no choice.
If he really wanted the fight he would not have insisted on any conditions.

Which suggests he knew something we didn't.

It's not exactly an unreasonable demand. Many have agreed since, including Pacqiuao. Had he agreed then, the fight would have gone ahead.


But if Mayweather did know that Paquiao was on the gear, then he would also know that he couldn't submit to blood testing. Therefore Mayweather cleverly avoided the fight.


Mayweather agreed to a clean, even contest. Pacquiao didn't and thus dodged the fight.

 

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Mayweather has dodged PacMan for years. There's no doubt about that. He's watched his light fade and then agreed to fight him. Wouldn't expect anything less from Mayweather. 5 years ago PacMan was putting on some of the most impressive diaplays in the ring that I have witnessed in my 35 years. To say that Maywether would still have beaten him when Manny was in his prime is just wrong. There's no telling now which way it would have gone though but I think, over the course of a few fights(which is what we should have had) the decisions would have been shared.
Ultimately Maywether has robbed us of what could have been some of the most thrilling boxing bouts in the sports history. This, as well as the woman bashing is why I will never respect him.


Disagree, think the gap would have been wider.

One has to question Pacquiao's reluctance to take a blood test coinciding with his quite incredible rise through the weight classess whilst seemingly increasing his explosive punching power which was then followed by a huuuuuuuge decline in speed and power when drug testing was suggested and rejected.

5 years down the line and miraculously, Pacquiao can now handle a blood test that would normally "significantly weaken" him.

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)


So you are suggesting Pacquiao took steroids ?

And you think that is unusual among sportsmen ?

I'm suggesting it's a possibility. And no, i don't think it's unusual. What i think is unusual is how often it's suggested Mayweather dodged Pacquiao but no the other way, considering the facts.


Well why would Pacquiao avoid Mayweather ? Surely it was in his interests to fight him but not necessarily the other way around.

He may have had no choice but to avoid him due to the PED's he may have been taking.It's important to remember that Mayweather originally agreed to the fight with the stipulation that random blood testing was carried out.

It was Pacquiao who wouldn't agree to that and thus "dodged" the fight.

Pacquiao might have refused the conditions but Mayweather would have know that he had no choice.
If he really wanted the fight he would not have insisted on any conditions.

Which suggests he knew something we didn't.

It's not exactly an unreasonable demand. Many have agreed since, including Pacqiuao. Had he agreed then, the fight would have gone ahead.


But if Mayweather did know that Paquiao was on the gear, then he would also know that he couldn't submit to blood testing. Therefore Mayweather cleverly avoided the fight.


He called his bluff. Why would you fight someone you suspect of cheating?

As for the fight. Mayweather did exactly what he wanted and what he always does. The best boxer ever, no doubt about it.


You cannot be serious.

Mayweathyer certainly is not the best boxer ever and he clearly, in my view, used the blood test gambit to avoid the fight. Why risk fighting someone who might beat you when you can keep earning massive money fighting people you know you can beat. That is how boxing works, unless you value the challenge over the money.


He is. It's not even open for debate. Boxer and fighter/entertainer are not the same thing.

Avoid the fight? The one he just won, right?

 


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Mayweather has dodged PacMan for years. There's no doubt about that. He's watched his light fade and then agreed to fight him. Wouldn't expect anything less from Mayweather. 5 years ago PacMan was putting on some of the most impressive diaplays in the ring that I have witnessed in my 35 years. To say that Maywether would still have beaten him when Manny was in his prime is just wrong. There's no telling now which way it would have gone though but I think, over the course of a few fights(which is what we should have had) the decisions would have been shared.
Ultimately Maywether has robbed us of what could have been some of the most thrilling boxing bouts in the sports history. This, as well as the woman bashing is why I will never respect him.


Disagree, think the gap would have been wider.

One has to question Pacquiao's reluctance to take a blood test coinciding with his quite incredible rise through the weight classess whilst seemingly increasing his explosive punching power which was then followed by a huuuuuuuge decline in speed and power when drug testing was suggested and rejected.

5 years down the line and miraculously, Pacquiao can now handle a blood test that would normally "significantly weaken" him.

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)


So you are suggesting Pacquiao took steroids ?

And you think that is unusual among sportsmen ?

I'm suggesting it's a possibility. And no, i don't think it's unusual. What i think is unusual is how often it's suggested Mayweather dodged Pacquiao but no the other way, considering the facts.


Well why would Pacquiao avoid Mayweather ? Surely it was in his interests to fight him but not necessarily the other way around.

He may have had no choice but to avoid him due to the PED's he may have been taking.It's important to remember that Mayweather originally agreed to the fight with the stipulation that random blood testing was carried out.

It was Pacquiao who wouldn't agree to that and thus "dodged" the fight.

Pacquiao might have refused the conditions but Mayweather would have know that he had no choice.
If he really wanted the fight he would not have insisted on any conditions.

Which suggests he knew something we didn't.

It's not exactly an unreasonable demand. Many have agreed since, including Pacqiuao. Had he agreed then, the fight would have gone ahead.


But if Mayweather did know that Paquiao was on the gear, then he would also know that he couldn't submit to blood testing. Therefore Mayweather cleverly avoided the fight.


He called his bluff. Why would you fight someone you suspect of cheating?

As for the fight. Mayweather did exactly what he wanted and what he always does. The best boxer ever, no doubt about it.


You cannot be serious.

Mayweathyer certainly is not the best boxer ever and he clearly, in my view, used the blood test gambit to avoid the fight. Why risk fighting someone who might beat you when you can keep earning massive money fighting people you know you can beat. That is how boxing works, unless you value the challenge over the money.


He is. It's not even open for debate. Boxer and fighter/entertainer are not the same thing.

Avoid the fight? The one he just won, right?


Exactly right, there's not a competetive sportsman on the plant who would allow a competitor to gain an unfair and illegal advantage. Mayweather set the terms from the start. A clean, even contest. Pacquiao couln't agree to that and dodged the fight until he was able to compete.

 

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Mayweather has dodged PacMan for years. There's no doubt about that. He's watched his light fade and then agreed to fight him. Wouldn't expect anything less from Mayweather. 5 years ago PacMan was putting on some of the most impressive diaplays in the ring that I have witnessed in my 35 years. To say that Maywether would still have beaten him when Manny was in his prime is just wrong. There's no telling now which way it would have gone though but I think, over the course of a few fights(which is what we should have had) the decisions would have been shared.
Ultimately Maywether has robbed us of what could have been some of the most thrilling boxing bouts in the sports history. This, as well as the woman bashing is why I will never respect him.


Disagree, think the gap would have been wider.

One has to question Pacquiao's reluctance to take a blood test coinciding with his quite incredible rise through the weight classess whilst seemingly increasing his explosive punching power which was then followed by a huuuuuuuge decline in speed and power when drug testing was suggested and rejected.

5 years down the line and miraculously, Pacquiao can now handle a blood test that would normally "significantly weaken" him.

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)


So you are suggesting Pacquiao took steroids ?

And you think that is unusual among sportsmen ?

I'm suggesting it's a possibility. And no, i don't think it's unusual. What i think is unusual is how often it's suggested Mayweather dodged Pacquiao but no the other way, considering the facts.


Well why would Pacquiao avoid Mayweather ? Surely it was in his interests to fight him but not necessarily the other way around.

He may have had no choice but to avoid him due to the PED's he may have been taking.It's important to remember that Mayweather originally agreed to the fight with the stipulation that random blood testing was carried out.

It was Pacquiao who wouldn't agree to that and thus "dodged" the fight.

Pacquiao might have refused the conditions but Mayweather would have know that he had no choice.
If he really wanted the fight he would not have insisted on any conditions.

Which suggests he knew something we didn't.

It's not exactly an unreasonable demand. Many have agreed since, including Pacqiuao. Had he agreed then, the fight would have gone ahead.


But if Mayweather did know that Paquiao was on the gear, then he would also know that he couldn't submit to blood testing. Therefore Mayweather cleverly avoided the fight.


He called his bluff. Why would you fight someone you suspect of cheating?

As for the fight. Mayweather did exactly what he wanted and what he always does. The best boxer ever, no doubt about it.


You cannot be serious.

Mayweathyer certainly is not the best boxer ever and he clearly, in my view, used the blood test gambit to avoid the fight. Why risk fighting someone who might beat you when you can keep earning massive money fighting people you know you can beat. That is how boxing works, unless you value the challenge over the money.


He is. It's not even open for debate. Boxer and fighter/entertainer are not the same thing.

Avoid the fight? The one he just won, right?


It's subjective.

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Mayweather has dodged PacMan for years. There's no doubt about that. He's watched his light fade and then agreed to fight him. Wouldn't expect anything less from Mayweather. 5 years ago PacMan was putting on some of the most impressive diaplays in the ring that I have witnessed in my 35 years. To say that Maywether would still have beaten him when Manny was in his prime is just wrong. There's no telling now which way it would have gone though but I think, over the course of a few fights(which is what we should have had) the decisions would have been shared.
Ultimately Maywether has robbed us of what could have been some of the most thrilling boxing bouts in the sports history. This, as well as the woman bashing is why I will never respect him.


Disagree, think the gap would have been wider.

One has to question Pacquiao's reluctance to take a blood test coinciding with his quite incredible rise through the weight classess whilst seemingly increasing his explosive punching power which was then followed by a huuuuuuuge decline in speed and power when drug testing was suggested and rejected.

5 years down the line and miraculously, Pacquiao can now handle a blood test that would normally "significantly weaken" him.

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)

Edited by JL85 (09 May 2015 12.59am)


So you are suggesting Pacquiao took steroids ?

And you think that is unusual among sportsmen ?

I'm suggesting it's a possibility. And no, i don't think it's unusual. What i think is unusual is how often it's suggested Mayweather dodged Pacquiao but no the other way, considering the facts.


Well why would Pacquiao avoid Mayweather ? Surely it was in his interests to fight him but not necessarily the other way around.

He may have had no choice but to avoid him due to the PED's he may have been taking.It's important to remember that Mayweather originally agreed to the fight with the stipulation that random blood testing was carried out.

It was Pacquiao who wouldn't agree to that and thus "dodged" the fight.

Pacquiao might have refused the conditions but Mayweather would have know that he had no choice.
If he really wanted the fight he would not have insisted on any conditions.

Which suggests he knew something we didn't.

It's not exactly an unreasonable demand. Many have agreed since, including Pacqiuao. Had he agreed then, the fight would have gone ahead.


But if Mayweather did know that Paquiao was on the gear, then he would also know that he couldn't submit to blood testing. Therefore Mayweather cleverly avoided the fight.


He called his bluff. Why would you fight someone you suspect of cheating?

As for the fight. Mayweather did exactly what he wanted and what he always does. The best boxer ever, no doubt about it.


You cannot be serious.

Mayweathyer certainly is not the best boxer ever and he clearly, in my view, used the blood test gambit to avoid the fight. Why risk fighting someone who might beat you when you can keep earning massive money fighting people you know you can beat. That is how boxing works, unless you value the challenge over the money.


He is. It's not even open for debate. Boxer and fighter/entertainer are not the same thing.

Avoid the fight? The one he just won, right?


It's subjective.

Edited by imbored (12 May 2015 4.52pm)


There's no counter-argument that stands up against him.

Undefeated, multiple titles, multiple weights, the overwhelming agreement of his fellow sportsmen etc

 


Optimistic as ever

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the judge clearly knows f*** all about boxing. love how mayweather fights how he sets traps and counters. one thing though check out who was his strength and conditioning coach for this fight. (Alex Ariza), same guy who everyone thinks put peds in mannys drinks in his prime.

 

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