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View PA's Profile PA Flag Bedfordshire 23 Mar 15 9.43pm Send a Private Message to PA Add PA as a friend

How easy is it for a petrol station to diddle their customers?

I got some diesel today priced at 117.9 a litre. I stopped the nozzle on exactly 1 litre and the cost was 119. Rip off!

You multiply than extra 1.1 pence by thousands of litres and it mounts up!

Bet they're all at it.

 

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 23 Mar 15 10.26pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Both quantity and price are probably subject to more decimal places than have to be displayed.

It could conceivably be 117.949p per litre and 1.0049 litres. A larger sample size would more accurately reveal any potential rip off.

 


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Quote Stuk at 23 Mar 2015 10.26pm

Both quantity and price are probably subject to more decimal places than have to be displayed.

It could conceivably be 117.949p per litre and 1.0049 litres. A larger sample size would more accurately reveal any potential rip off.


That's a very measured response.

 

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Quote PA at 23 Mar 2015 10.43pm

Quote Stuk at 23 Mar 2015 10.26pm

Both quantity and price are probably subject to more decimal places than have to be displayed.

It could conceivably be 117.949p per litre and 1.0049 litres. A larger sample size would more accurately reveal any potential rip off.


That's a very measured response.

Ha ha.

Try stopping a petrol pump on an even number of pounds though. That's a bloody impossibility nowadays.


Edited by Stuk (23 Mar 2015 11.07pm)

 


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View Pawson Palace's Profile Pawson Palace Flag Croydon 24 Mar 15 10.09am Send a Private Message to Pawson Palace Add Pawson Palace as a friend

I never get why you cant key in that you want say £20 in juice and then let it pump until it reaches that amount..

Annoying as f*** having a penny pot for when I go over haha

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 24 Mar 15 11.42am

There has always been an association between fuel and organized crime, the Albanian organized crime gangs have a long history in the US and the Provo's were heavily involved in organized crime around fuel in Ireland.

It would be naïve to assume an area where there is so much scope for organized crime is not affected. Typically any low profit high duty large turn over business attracts organized crime.

Albanian gangs have been involved in extortion (forcing people to buy from their supply), cutting (using additives to increase profit), smuggling (to avoid duty which is harder in the UK than elsewhere due to the limited border scopes), and of course for money laundering and moving stolen goods/counterfeit goods.

Fuel profit is about turnover, as the profit on a litre of fuel is very low. Consequently such operators are generally more open to organized crime, where a boost of say a few pence per litre could double the profit.

Its also telling that Petrol Stations also are higher retailers of tabbaco products, and now alcohol. Both of which are common organized crime business (Small margins, high turnover high duty) - and often stolen in bulk from storage sources.

Petrol station owners tend to be fairly shifty types.

 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Mar 2015 11.42am

There has always been an association between fuel and organized crime, the Albanian organized crime gangs have a long history in the US and the Provo's were heavily involved in organized crime around fuel in Ireland.

It would be naïve to assume an area where there is so much scope for organized crime is not affected. Typically any low profit high duty large turn over business attracts organized crime.

Albanian gangs have been involved in extortion (forcing people to buy from their supply), cutting (using additives to increase profit), smuggling (to avoid duty which is harder in the UK than elsewhere due to the limited border scopes), and of course for money laundering and moving stolen goods/counterfeit goods.

Fuel profit is about turnover, as the profit on a litre of fuel is very low. Consequently such operators are generally more open to organized crime, where a boost of say a few pence per litre could double the profit.

Its also telling that Petrol Stations also are higher retailers of tabbaco products, and now alcohol. Both of which are common organized crime business (Small margins, high turnover high duty) - and often stolen in bulk from storage sources.

Petrol station owners tend to be fairly shifty types.

Seems a little outdated, but reassuring that nowadays they're generally owned by the big oil companies or supermarkets.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 24 Mar 15 12.27pm

Quote johnfirewall at 24 Mar 2015 12.22pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Mar 2015 11.42am

There has always been an association between fuel and organized crime, the Albanian organized crime gangs have a long history in the US and the Provo's were heavily involved in organized crime around fuel in Ireland.

It would be naïve to assume an area where there is so much scope for organized crime is not affected. Typically any low profit high duty large turn over business attracts organized crime.

Albanian gangs have been involved in extortion (forcing people to buy from their supply), cutting (using additives to increase profit), smuggling (to avoid duty which is harder in the UK than elsewhere due to the limited border scopes), and of course for money laundering and moving stolen goods/counterfeit goods.

Fuel profit is about turnover, as the profit on a litre of fuel is very low. Consequently such operators are generally more open to organized crime, where a boost of say a few pence per litre could double the profit.

Its also telling that Petrol Stations also are higher retailers of tabbaco products, and now alcohol. Both of which are common organized crime business (Small margins, high turnover high duty) - and often stolen in bulk from storage sources.

Petrol station owners tend to be fairly shifty types.

Seems a little outdated, but reassuring that nowadays they're generally owned by the big oil companies or supermarkets.

Franchised generally, rather than owned (in regards to the big oil companies).


 


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Quote Pawson Palace at 24 Mar 2015 10.09am

I never get why you cant key in that you want say £20 in juice and then let it pump until it reaches that amount..

Annoying as f*** having a penny pot for when I go over haha


You can in the USA. In fact some dodgy places you have to go in and pay first, then they allow you that much petrol and the pumps cuts out.

First time that happened to me I said i'll stick $50 in, forgetting it's cheaper than water over there, and the pump cut out at about $30 odd and I had to go in and get the balance refunded.

I wish they'd stop deactivating all the locks on the triggers, which let you fill up without holding on to it.

 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Mar 2015 12.27pm

Quote johnfirewall at 24 Mar 2015 12.22pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Mar 2015 11.42am

There has always been an association between fuel and organized crime, the Albanian organized crime gangs have a long history in the US and the Provo's were heavily involved in organized crime around fuel in Ireland.

It would be naïve to assume an area where there is so much scope for organized crime is not affected. Typically any low profit high duty large turn over business attracts organized crime.

Albanian gangs have been involved in extortion (forcing people to buy from their supply), cutting (using additives to increase profit), smuggling (to avoid duty which is harder in the UK than elsewhere due to the limited border scopes), and of course for money laundering and moving stolen goods/counterfeit goods.

Fuel profit is about turnover, as the profit on a litre of fuel is very low. Consequently such operators are generally more open to organized crime, where a boost of say a few pence per litre could double the profit.

Its also telling that Petrol Stations also are higher retailers of tabbaco products, and now alcohol. Both of which are common organized crime business (Small margins, high turnover high duty) - and often stolen in bulk from storage sources.

Petrol station owners tend to be fairly shifty types.

Seems a little outdated, but reassuring that nowadays they're generally owned by the big oil companies or supermarkets.

Franchised generally, rather than owned (in regards to the big oil companies).



Still dodgy b******s, they were copying card details around this way not long back and then using them for whatever. All linked to initial petrol payments.

 


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Quote Stuk at 24 Mar 2015 1.50pm

Quote Pawson Palace at 24 Mar 2015 10.09am

I never get why you cant key in that you want say £20 in juice and then let it pump until it reaches that amount..

Annoying as f*** having a penny pot for when I go over haha


You can in the USA. In fact some dodgy places you have to go in and pay first, then they allow you that much petrol and the pumps cuts out.

First time that happened to me I said i'll stick in, forgetting it's cheaper than water over there, and the pump cut out at about odd and I had to go in and get the balance refunded.

I wish they'd stop deactivating all the locks on the triggers, which let you fill up without holding on to it.


Yeah you can in Spain to got 3 buttons 10-20 or 30 euros,but as you say a lot of the places in Spain they still come out and serve you.

 


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