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johnno42000 27 Mar 15 9.51am
I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***. 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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johnno42000

27 Mar 15 9.51am

I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***.

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Mar 15 9.52am
Quote Pawson Palace at 27 Mar 2015 9.46am I'm no UKIP voter but Farage will destroy these two if this is them at their peak. Wouldn't take a lot to destroy Miliband ! I wish they would have Farage there and scrutinised about the UKIP "Policies" on matters other than the EU and immigration ! Would love to see that ! Probably make it up on the hoof.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Mar 15 9.52am

Quote Pawson Palace at 27 Mar 2015 9.46am

I'm no UKIP voter but Farage will destroy these two if this is them at their peak.

Wouldn't take a lot to destroy Miliband !

I wish they would have Farage there and scrutinised about the UKIP "Policies" on matters other than the EU and immigration ! Would love to see that ! Probably make it up on the hoof.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Mar 15 9.54am
Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***. Don't be so ridiculous. He was a total embarrassment but I never expected anything else. That said, Cameron wasn't at his best during the Paxman interrogation. Would love to continue this debate but I am off to HQ now !!!! Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 9.56am)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Mar 15 9.54am

Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am

I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***.

Don't be so ridiculous. He was a total embarrassment but I never expected anything else. That said, Cameron wasn't at his best during the Paxman interrogation.

Would love to continue this debate but I am off to HQ now !!!!

Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 9.56am)

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Pawson Palace Croydon 27 Mar 15 9.58am
Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 9.52am Quote Pawson Palace at 27 Mar 2015 9.46am I'm no UKIP voter but Farage will destroy these two if this is them at their peak. Wouldn't take a lot to destroy Miliband ! I wish they would have Farage there and scrutinised about the UKIP "Policies" on matters other than the EU and immigration ! Would love to see that ! Probably make it up on the hoof. Farage has more charisma than the two combined, he'd dominate them completely. Given that Cameron brought every topic back to the economy its a bit rich to say about UKIPs policies. Pride of South London Upper Holmesdale Block P
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Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 9.52am

Quote Pawson Palace at 27 Mar 2015 9.46am

I'm no UKIP voter but Farage will destroy these two if this is them at their peak.

Wouldn't take a lot to destroy Miliband !

I wish they would have Farage there and scrutinised about the UKIP "Policies" on matters other than the EU and immigration ! Would love to see that ! Probably make it up on the hoof.

Farage has more charisma than the two combined, he'd dominate them completely.

Given that Cameron brought every topic back to the economy its a bit rich to say about UKIPs policies.

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 27 Mar 15 10.13am
Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***. Burley is a typical Murdoch news whore - sold her integrity, impartiality and soul for the Murdoch shilling...odious little weasel of a woman.. As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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The Sash

Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 27 Mar 15 10.13am

Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am

I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***.

Burley is a typical Murdoch news whore - sold her integrity, impartiality and soul for the Murdoch shilling...odious little weasel of a woman..

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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We are goin up! Coulsdon 27 Mar 15 10.17am
Quote Frickin Saweet at 27 Mar 2015 9.42am I'm no Labour of Miliband fan but I thought the questions for him were a bit harsh, making him out to be a bit of a muppet rather than talking politics. Kind of like bullying on TV. Oh God, I'm sympathising with Labour - is this how they reel you in? I felt the same. Still not voting for them though. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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Quote Frickin Saweet at 27 Mar 2015 9.42am

I'm no Labour of Miliband fan but I thought the questions for him were a bit harsh, making him out to be a bit of a muppet rather than talking politics. Kind of like bullying on TV. Oh God, I'm sympathising with Labour - is this how they reel you in?

I felt the same. Still not voting for them though.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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johnno42000 27 Mar 15 10.20am
Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 9.54am Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***. Don't be so ridiculous. He was a total embarrassment but I never expected anything else. That said, Cameron wasn't at his best during the Paxman interrogation. Would love to continue this debate but I am off to HQ now !!!! Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 9.56am) You keep believing it. He actually showed a little passion (something our politicians rarely show) something that slimey Cameron doesn't know how to do. 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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johnno42000

27 Mar 15 10.20am

Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 9.54am

Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am

I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***.

Don't be so ridiculous. He was a total embarrassment but I never expected anything else. That said, Cameron wasn't at his best during the Paxman interrogation.

Would love to continue this debate but I am off to HQ now !!!!

Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 9.56am)

You keep believing it. He actually showed a little passion (something our politicians rarely show) something that slimey Cameron doesn't know how to do.

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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collier row eagle romford essex via another galaxy 27 Mar 15 10.24am
Quote The Sash at 27 Mar 2015 10.13am Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***. Burley is a typical Murdoch news whore - sold her integrity, impartiality and soul for the Murdoch shilling...odious little weasel of a woman.. Yes, but would you?
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Quote The Sash at 27 Mar 2015 10.13am

Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am

I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***.

Burley is a typical Murdoch news whore - sold her integrity, impartiality and soul for the Murdoch shilling...odious little weasel of a woman..

Yes, but would you?

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We are goin up! Coulsdon 27 Mar 15 10.39am
Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 10.20am Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 9.54am Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t**. Don't be so ridiculous. He was a total embarrassment but I never expected anything else. That said, Cameron wasn't at his best during the Paxman interrogation. Would love to continue this debate but I am off to HQ now !!!! Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 9.56am) You keep believing it. He actually showed a little passion (something our politicians rarely show) something that slimey Cameron doesn't know how to do. Walking around a bit and talking loudly isn't passion. Passion is having a vision for the country and sticking to it. Hate to say it, that's why Farage comes across as the most passionate by miles. Miliband has no vision, he's a patch-up reactionary politician. "Oooo look at energy prices going up, let's freeze them!"* They drop. "Millions more will be unemployed!" They aren't. "Inflation will go through the roof!" It didn't. I thought Miliband came across well in terms of standing up to a ridiculous line of questioning from Paxman (who was a self-important twt throughout), but did he say anything of any substance whatsoever? Of course he fcking didn't. He was full of rhetoric, using phrases like "Let me be clear about this" before being exactly the opposite. I thought it was a painful watch all round. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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Coulsdon 27 Mar 15 10.39am

Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 10.20am

Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 9.54am

Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am

I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***.

Don't be so ridiculous. He was a total embarrassment but I never expected anything else. That said, Cameron wasn't at his best during the Paxman interrogation.

Would love to continue this debate but I am off to HQ now !!!!

Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 9.56am)

You keep believing it. He actually showed a little passion (something our politicians rarely show) something that slimey Cameron doesn't know how to do.

Walking around a bit and talking loudly isn't passion. Passion is having a vision for the country and sticking to it. Hate to say it, that's why Farage comes across as the most passionate by miles.

Miliband has no vision, he's a patch-up reactionary politician.

"Oooo look at energy prices going up, let's freeze them!" They drop.

"Millions more will be unemployed!" They aren't.

"Inflation will go through the roof!" It didn't.

I thought Miliband came across well in terms of standing up to a ridiculous line of questioning from Paxman (who was a self-important tw*t throughout), but did he say anything of any substance whatsoever? Of course he f*cking didn't. He was full of rhetoric, using phrases like "Let me be clear about this" before being exactly the opposite. I thought it was a painful watch all round.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 27 Mar 15 10.44am
Was overall a pretty pi$$ poor waste of my time and no one performed particularly well. But Miliband definitely shaded it. Was much much better performing against Paxman and held himself up well against Burley who was fairly obviously biased. In the Q&A Cameron definitely did better, especially when thrown some very soft questions, but the damage had already been done. I think Labour will be very happy with last night. At worst a mild loss against a demonstrably better public speaker who people expected to walk away with a convincing victory. It definitely showed why Cameron wimped out of a one-on-one debate. Edited by OknotOK (27 Mar 2015 10.44am) "It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show
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Was overall a pretty pi$$ poor waste of my time and no one performed particularly well. But Miliband definitely shaded it. Was much much better performing against Paxman and held himself up well against Burley who was fairly obviously biased.

In the Q&A Cameron definitely did better, especially when thrown some very soft questions, but the damage had already been done.

I think Labour will be very happy with last night. At worst a mild loss against a demonstrably better public speaker who people expected to walk away with a convincing victory. It definitely showed why Cameron wimped out of a one-on-one debate.

Edited by OknotOK (27 Mar 2015 10.44am)

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

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johnno42000 27 Mar 15 10.44am
Quote We are goin up! at 27 Mar 2015 10.39am Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 10.20am Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 9.54am Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t**. Don't be so ridiculous. He was a total embarrassment but I never expected anything else. That said, Cameron wasn't at his best during the Paxman interrogation. Would love to continue this debate but I am off to HQ now !!!! Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 9.56am) You keep believing it. He actually showed a little passion (something our politicians rarely show) something that slimey Cameron doesn't know how to do. Walking around a bit and talking loudly isn't passion. Passion is having a vision for the country and sticking to it. Hate to say it, that's why Farage comes across as the most passionate by miles. Miliband has no vision, he's a patch-up reactionary politician. "Oooo look at energy prices going up, let's freeze them!"* They drop. "Millions more will be unemployed!" They aren't. "Inflation will go through the roof!" It didn't. I thought Miliband came across well in terms of standing up to a ridiculous line of questioning from Paxman (who was a self-important twt throughout), but did he say anything of any substance whatsoever? Of course he fcking didn't. He was full of rhetoric, using phrases like "Let me be clear about this" before being exactly the opposite. I thought it was a painful watch all round. He did show passion and spirit when Paxman kept goading him. Cameron came across like the Spitting Image puppet of Kenneth Baker. 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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johnno42000

27 Mar 15 10.44am

Quote We are goin up! at 27 Mar 2015 10.39am

Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 10.20am

Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 9.54am

Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am

I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***.

Don't be so ridiculous. He was a total embarrassment but I never expected anything else. That said, Cameron wasn't at his best during the Paxman interrogation.

Would love to continue this debate but I am off to HQ now !!!!

Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 9.56am)

You keep believing it. He actually showed a little passion (something our politicians rarely show) something that slimey Cameron doesn't know how to do.

Walking around a bit and talking loudly isn't passion. Passion is having a vision for the country and sticking to it. Hate to say it, that's why Farage comes across as the most passionate by miles.

Miliband has no vision, he's a patch-up reactionary politician.

"Oooo look at energy prices going up, let's freeze them!" They drop.

"Millions more will be unemployed!" They aren't.

"Inflation will go through the roof!" It didn't.

He did show passion and spirit when Paxman kept goading him. Cameron came across like the Spitting Image puppet of Kenneth Baker.

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 27 Mar 15 10.47am
Slightly peurile but ultimately a great example of why Moribund will not win the election. [Tweet Link] the dignified don't even enter in the game
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In The Crowd 27 Mar 15 10.47am

Slightly peurile but ultimately a great example of why Moribund will not win the election.

[Tweet Link]

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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