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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 05 Apr 15 12.24pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Quote Willo at 05 Apr 2015 12.10pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 05 Apr 2015 11.49am

Without them two Labour would probably have a comfortable majority

Why would they ? I don't see this at all given the economic performance of the Government who inherited a dire situation.


If David Miliband was party leader, Labour would walk it.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Apr 15 12.25pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote Catfish at 04 Apr 2015 9.50pm

I predict that not only will the Tories be the largest party they might just get a majority.

Co-incidentally I was in a pub last night and a group of chaps were expressing this exact opinion. I didn't get involved in this conversation as my dear wife is fed up to the back teeth of me going on about politics !


 

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imbored Flag UK 05 Apr 15 12.27pm

I can't see anyone getting a majority. Here's what will happen if they don't:

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Apr 15 12.29pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote matt_himself at 05 Apr 2015 12.24pm

Quote Willo at 05 Apr 2015 12.10pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 05 Apr 2015 11.49am

Without them two Labour would probably have a comfortable majority

Why would they ? I don't see this at all given the economic performance of the Government who inherited a dire situation.


If David Miliband was party leader, Labour would walk it.

Hogwash.
People do not trust Labour with the economy and hopefully enough will not wish to throw away the gains made in the last 5 years.The Conservatives are building a strong economy and it would be criminal if we weren't allowed to finish the job.

At the end of the day the choice at this election is between the competence of a Conservative government or the chaos of Labour propped up by the SNP.

Edited by Willo (05 Apr 2015 12.32pm)

 

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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 05 Apr 15 12.36pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Quote Willo at 05 Apr 2015 12.29pm

Quote matt_himself at 05 Apr 2015 12.24pm

Quote Willo at 05 Apr 2015 12.10pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 05 Apr 2015 11.49am

Without them two Labour would probably have a comfortable majority

Why would they ? I don't see this at all given the economic performance of the Government who inherited a dire situation.


If David Miliband was party leader, Labour would walk it.

Hogwash.
People do not trust Labour with the economy and hopefully enough will not wish to throw away the gains made in the last 5 years.The Conservatives are building a strong economy and it would be criminal if we weren't allowed to finish the job.

At the end of the day the choice at this election is between the competence of a Conservative government or the chaos of Labour propped up by the SNP.

Edited by Willo (05 Apr 2015 12.32pm)

for the record Tory Boy, I am not voting Labour.

David Miliband would have had the Tories really scared. He is, in opinion, a thoroughbred and a class act. I might not agree with all his policies but you could see in him a greatness his idiot half brother can only dream of.

People don't trust the Tories on a bunch issues, important issues, such as debt reduction, immigration and the EU. If you don't believe me, speak to them when you are canvassing rather than repeat it the mantra of voting Labour or UkIp is giving the keys to government to Alex Salmond.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Apr 15 12.43pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote matt_himself at 05 Apr 2015 12.36pm

People don't trust the Tories on a bunch issues, important issues, such as debt reduction, immigration and the EU. If you don't believe me, speak to them when you are canvassing rather than repeat it the mantra of voting Labour or UkIp is giving the keys to government to Alex Salmond.

I DO speak to a lot of people whilst out canvassing and whilst they do mention about the EU and immigration they also raise other matters such as the NHS, employment, inflation, living standards, business investment etc etc.

The focus of my discussions is not the "mantra" which you have mentioned but it is relevant .

Edited by Willo (05 Apr 2015 12.44pm)

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 05 Apr 15 12.48pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

A Grand Coalition - just to keep the SNP out of any influence in Westminster.

 

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imbored Flag UK 05 Apr 15 12.49pm

Quote Willo at 05 Apr 2015 12.29pm

Quote matt_himself at 05 Apr 2015 12.24pm

Quote Willo at 05 Apr 2015 12.10pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 05 Apr 2015 11.49am

Without them two Labour would probably have a comfortable majority

Why would they ? I don't see this at all given the economic performance of the Government who inherited a dire situation.


If David Miliband was party leader, Labour would walk it.

Hogwash.
People do not trust Labour with the economy and hopefully enough will not wish to throw away the gains made in the last 5 years.The Conservatives are building a strong economy and it would be criminal if we weren't allowed to finish the job.

At the end of the day the choice at this election is between the competence of a Conservative government or the chaos of Labour propped up by the SNP.

Edited by Willo (05 Apr 2015 12.32pm)


You're so seamlessly aligned and allied with your party at every step. I can get why people broadly follow an ideology, but it's called politics for a reason. You seem to believe what those in the party say more than they themselves do. The theatrics of it are lost of you. Not that I'm saying viewing things this way isn't useful for the party, but it comes off as a bit sad on a human level. No wonder your wife wants you to put a sock it in .

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Apr 15 12.54pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote imbored at 05 Apr 2015 12.49pm

You're so seamlessly aligned and allied with your party at every step. I can get why people broadly follow an ideology, but it's called politics for a reason. You seem to believe what those in the party say more than they themselves do. The theatrics of it are lost of you. Not that I'm saying viewing things this way isn't useful for the party, but it comes off as a bit sad on a human level. No wonder your wife wants you to put a sock it in .

I really don't think I'm a sad human being for passionately supporting a political party and campaigning for them with some gusto.

Yes my wife tells me to "Put a sock in it" but for various reasons NOT just my political preaching !!!!

Edited by Willo (05 Apr 2015 1.01pm)

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Apr 15 12.58pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 12.48pm

A Grand Coalition - just to keep the SNP out of any influence in Westminster.

When discussing the SNP who of course are "Separatists" one has to consider that separation is paramount for them.It's NOT austerity they care about, it's not even 'Trident' it is the breaking up of Britain.The 300 year union between England and Scotland would be in grave danger if the separatists were able to call the shots.

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Quote Willo at 05 Apr 2015 12.58pm

Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 12.48pm

A Grand Coalition - just to keep the SNP out of any influence in Westminster.

When discussing the SNP who of course are "Separatists" one has to consider that separation is paramount for them.It's NOT austerity they care about, it's not even 'Trident' it is the breaking up of Britain.The 300 year union between England and Scotland would be in grave danger if the separatists were able to call the shots.

Edited by Willo (05 Apr 2015 1.00pm)


So is that you agreeing?

 

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imbored Flag UK 05 Apr 15 1.04pm

Quote Willo at 05 Apr 2015 12.54pm

Quote imbored at 05 Apr 2015 12.49pm

You're so seamlessly aligned and allied with your party at every step. I can get why people broadly follow an ideology, but it's called politics for a reason. You seem to believe what those in the party say more than they themselves do. The theatrics of it are lost of you. Not that I'm saying viewing things this way isn't useful for the party, but it comes off as a bit sad on a human level. No wonder your wife wants you to put a sock it in .

I really don't think I'm a sad human being for passionately suppporting a political party and campaigning for them with some gusto.

Yes my wife tells me to "Put a sock in it" but for various reasons NOT just my political preaching !!!!

I didn't say you're a sad human being, I'm sure you're not. I just meant politically it's sad and very much towing the line. The same as someone who is perfectly aligned to the libdems or whoever. You believe what they're saying more than they do. When Cameron says that we'll get to where we'll need to be if we stick with him, but if we don't it'll be "chaos", he doesn't actually believe that. He's saying it because it's useful for him to do so. It's hyperbole but you don't appear to recognise that.

 

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