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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 May 15 4.31pm
Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist? Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm) Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time. The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto. Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP.
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 11 May 15 4.31pm

Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm

The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist?

Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm)

Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time.

The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto.

Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP.

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johnno42000 11 May 15 4.33pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 11 May 2015 4.28pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? The SNP weren't the most successful party in terms of seats or share of vote. They were 3rd in number of seats and 6th in vote share! Tbf it would have been quite difficult for them to have done much better. 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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11 May 15 4.33pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 11 May 2015 4.28pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm

The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

The SNP weren't the most successful party in terms of seats or share of vote.

They were 3rd in number of seats and 6th in vote share!

Tbf it would have been quite difficult for them to have done much better.

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 May 15 4.36pm
Quote johnno42000 at 11 May 2015 4.33pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 11 May 2015 4.28pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? The SNP weren't the most successful party in terms of seats or share of vote. They were 3rd in number of seats and 6th in vote share! Tbf it would have been quite difficult for them to have done much better. Of course Hoof is being facetious. He knows that to gain 55 or whatever seats when contesting around 60 seats is by far the most successful showing by any party.
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 11 May 15 4.36pm

Quote johnno42000 at 11 May 2015 4.33pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 11 May 2015 4.28pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm

The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

The SNP weren't the most successful party in terms of seats or share of vote.

They were 3rd in number of seats and 6th in vote share!

Tbf it would have been quite difficult for them to have done much better.

Of course Hoof is being facetious. He knows that to gain 55 or whatever seats when contesting around 60 seats is by far the most successful showing by any party.

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Kermit8 Hevon 11 May 15 4.37pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 11 May 2015 4.28pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? The SNP weren't the most successful party in terms of seats or share of vote. They were 3rd in number of seats and 6th in vote share! Would have been a helluvalot higher if they had stood in all 631 constituencies like the rest of them. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 11 May 15 4.37pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 11 May 2015 4.28pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm

The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

The SNP weren't the most successful party in terms of seats or share of vote.

They were 3rd in number of seats and 6th in vote share!

Would have been a helluvalot higher if they had stood in all 631 constituencies like the rest of them.

Big chest and massive boobs

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derben 11 May 15 4.37pm
Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist? Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm) Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time. The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto. Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP. You are seriously implying that the SNP does not want independence for Scotland? That other National Socialist party didn't have "we intend to invade Poland at the first opportunity" in their 1933 manifesto either.
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11 May 15 4.37pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm

Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm

The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist?

Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm)

Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time.

The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto.

Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP.

You are seriously implying that the SNP does not want independence for Scotland? That other National Socialist party didn't have "we intend to invade Poland at the first opportunity" in their 1933 manifesto either.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 May 15 5.59pm
Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist? Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm) Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time. The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto. Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP. You are seriously implying that the SNP does not want independence for Scotland? That other National Socialist party didn't have "we intend to invade Poland at the first opportunity" in their 1933 manifesto either. Priceless response
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Shizzlehurst 11 May 15 5.59pm

Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm

Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm

The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist?

Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm)

Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time.

The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto.

Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP.

Priceless response

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elgrande bedford 11 May 15 6.11pm
Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 5.59pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist? Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm) Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time. The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto. Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP. You are seriously implying that the SNP does not want independence for Scotland? That other National Socialist party didn't have "we intend to invade Poland at the first opportunity" in their 1933 manifesto either. Priceless response Why!! I think it's a decent enough response. Surely the clues in the name of the Party. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 11 May 15 6.11pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 5.59pm

Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm

Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm

The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist?

Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm)

Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time.

The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto.

Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP.

Priceless response

Why!! I think it's a decent enough response.
Surely the clues in the name of the Party.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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kenbarr Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 11 May 15 6.13pm
I don't see Cameron as a Thatcherite, his views on climate change and marriage equality alone are things the iron lady would never go for. She would probably see him as a wet. I say this keeping in mind that political trends can't be transferred from one country to the next. If Cameron were in the USA, he'd probably be a centrist Democrat rather than a Republican. They are way too far right for him. Divorced...And LOVING it! VJRAM Rev. CPFC since Boxing Day 1989 CPFC 2-2 CFC Gregg Berhalter, US International & USMNT Head Coach Jill Ellis, England International & Retired USWNT Head Coach Trevor Francis, International PRAT
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I don't see Cameron as a Thatcherite, his views on climate change and marriage equality alone are things the iron lady would never go for. She would probably see him as a wet. I say this keeping in mind that political trends can't be transferred from one country to the next. If Cameron were in the USA, he'd probably be a centrist Democrat rather than a Republican. They are way too far right for him.

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VJRAM Rev.
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Jill Ellis, England International & Retired USWNT Head Coach
Trevor Francis, International PRAT

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imbored UK 11 May 15 6.22pm
Quote kenbarr at 11 May 2015 6.13pm I don't see Cameron as a Thatcherite, his views on climate change and marriage equality alone are things the iron lady would never go for. She would probably see him as a wet. I say this keeping in mind that political trends can't be transferred from one country to the next. If Cameron were in the USA, he'd probably be a centrist Democrat rather than a Republican. They are way too far right for him. That's true, but views can't really be transferred from one time period to another either. Interracial marriage used to be viewed differently too. As for climate change the data available far outweighs what it did in the past. A Thatcher of today wouldn't succeed by taking 80's views wholesale and putting them before society. I agree with your comments on the US. Constantly playing up to the religious vote alone is a dynamic that doesn't really exist in UK politics. Edited by imbored (11 May 2015 7.28pm)
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UK 11 May 15 6.22pm

Quote kenbarr at 11 May 2015 6.13pm

I don't see Cameron as a Thatcherite, his views on climate change and marriage equality alone are things the iron lady would never go for. She would probably see him as a wet. I say this keeping in mind that political trends can't be transferred from one country to the next. If Cameron were in the USA, he'd probably be a centrist Democrat rather than a Republican. They are way too far right for him.

That's true, but views can't really be transferred from one time period to another either.

Interracial marriage used to be viewed differently too. As for climate change the data available far outweighs what it did in the past. A Thatcher of today wouldn't succeed by taking 80's views wholesale and putting them before society.

I agree with your comments on the US. Constantly playing up to the religious vote alone is a dynamic that doesn't really exist in UK politics.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 May 15 7.18pm
Quote elgrande at 11 May 2015 6.11pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 5.59pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist? Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm) Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time. The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto. Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP. You are seriously implying that the SNP does not want independence for Scotland? That other National Socialist party didn't have "we intend to invade Poland at the first opportunity" in their 1933 manifesto either. Priceless response Why!! I think it's a decent enough response. Surely the clues in the name of the Party. You seriously think comparing the SNP to nazis is a decent enough response? Lolz.
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Shizzlehurst 11 May 15 7.18pm

Quote elgrande at 11 May 2015 6.11pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 5.59pm

Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm

Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm

The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist?

Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm)

Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time.

The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto.

Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP.

Priceless response

Why!! I think it's a decent enough response.
Surely the clues in the name of the Party.

You seriously think comparing the SNP to nazis is a decent enough response?

Lolz.

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elgrande bedford 11 May 15 8.10pm
Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 7.18pm Quote elgrande at 11 May 2015 6.11pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 5.59pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist? Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm) Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time. The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto. Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP. You are seriously implying that the SNP does not want independence for Scotland? That other National Socialist party didn't have "we intend to invade Poland at the first opportunity" in their 1933 manifesto either. Priceless response Why!! I think it's a decent enough response. Surely the clues in the name of the Party. You seriously think comparing the SNP to nazis is a decent enough response? Lolz. Lolz.......how old are you,and a teacher as well. You know that is not what he was saying, he means that if you think the SNP are not after independence then you must be off your head. And you make all sorts of comparisons between the tories/UKIP and the Nazis. But because it's you and your leftie mates doing it it's ok. And you wonder why the British public don't trust the left. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 11 May 15 8.10pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 7.18pm

Quote elgrande at 11 May 2015 6.11pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 5.59pm

Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm

Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm

The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist?

Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm)

Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time.

The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto.

Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP.

Priceless response

Why!! I think it's a decent enough response.
Surely the clues in the name of the Party.

You seriously think comparing the SNP to nazis is a decent enough response?

Lolz.

Lolz.......how old are you,and a teacher as well.
You know that is not what he was saying, he means that if you think the SNP are not after independence then you must be off your head.
And you make all sorts of comparisons between the tories/UKIP and the Nazis.

But because it's you and your leftie mates doing it it's ok.
And you wonder why the British public don't trust the left.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 May 15 9.55pm
Quote elgrande at 11 May 2015 8.10pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 7.18pm Quote elgrande at 11 May 2015 6.11pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 5.59pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist? Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm) Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time. The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto. Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP. You are seriously implying that the SNP does not want independence for Scotland? That other National Socialist party didn't have "we intend to invade Poland at the first opportunity" in their 1933 manifesto either. Priceless response Why!! I think it's a decent enough response. Surely the clues in the name of the Party. You seriously think comparing the SNP to nazis is a decent enough response? Lolz. Lolz.......how old are you,and a teacher as well. You know that is not what he was saying, he means that if you think the SNP are not after independence then you must be off your head. And you make all sorts of comparisons between the tories/UKIP and the Nazis. But because it's you and your leftie mates doing it it's ok. And you wonder why the British public don't trust the left. I'm trying to work out how the invasion of Poland alludes to Scotland's situation. Does Murdoch want Scottish independence? He was right behind the SNP in Scotland.
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Shizzlehurst 11 May 15 9.55pm

Quote elgrande at 11 May 2015 8.10pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 7.18pm

Quote elgrande at 11 May 2015 6.11pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 5.59pm

Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm

Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm

The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist?

Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm)

Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time.

The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto.

Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP.

Priceless response

Why!! I think it's a decent enough response.
Surely the clues in the name of the Party.

You seriously think comparing the SNP to nazis is a decent enough response?

Lolz.

But because it's you and your leftie mates doing it it's ok.
And you wonder why the British public don't trust the left.

I'm trying to work out how the invasion of Poland alludes to Scotland's situation.

Does Murdoch want Scottish independence? He was right behind the SNP in Scotland.

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