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I haven't got time to read all that. It's your point, you read them and pass on the information.

To say that "we" rape, torture and kill asylum seekers is one of the stupidest posts I have ever read. "we" put some of them in detention centres while they're processed. They're housed and fed and the bullying, I dare say, is from other asylum seekers.

So you ask for my 'proof' then immediately dismiss it and say I should just summarise? Right...

The fact is that 'we' know from these journalistic enquiries (which I do recommend reading - they are very eye-opening) that abuse is rife within detention centres, particularly for women and the LGBT community, who make up a fairly sizeable proportion of asylum seekers. There have been enquiries in to the running of these detention centres and changes have been made, so fewer children are kept indefinitely, but because the companies running the detention centres are private and non-accountable, they haven't got the obligation to be as transparent as a public institution, and the number of these places is only increasing. Day to day life is clearly hellish, hence the large accounts of suicide, and the fast-track justice service given to these people isn't doing the job.

Also considering you are keen for me to show my evidence, where's your evidence for your last claim? If I didn't suspect better I'd guess you'd just pulled it out of your arse...

So you are saying abuse is rife in detention centres,because the "left wing "Guardian have spoken to a few detanees ,I know a manager from there.and while she admits there were cases of abuse,(ANd the people responseabe are gone and think been charged ) its no where anything like the Guardian or CHannel 4 reported.
It happens in all institutions,I am not saying its right far from it.
But let's put a little perspective on it.

 


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Quote serial thriller at 24 Apr 2015 12.00pm

Quote Stuk at 23 Apr 2015 5.18pm


I haven't got time to read all that. It's your point, you read them and pass on the information.

To say that "we" rape, torture and kill asylum seekers is one of the stupidest posts I have ever read. "we" put some of them in detention centres while they're processed. They're housed and fed and the bullying, I dare say, is from other asylum seekers.

So you ask for my 'proof' then immediately dismiss it and say I should just summarise? Right...

The fact is that 'we' know from these journalistic enquiries (which I do recommend reading - they are very eye-opening) that abuse is rife within detention centres, particularly for women and the LGBT community, who make up a fairly sizeable proportion of asylum seekers. There have been enquiries in to the running of these detention centres and changes have been made, so fewer children are kept indefinitely, but because the companies running the detention centres are private and non-accountable, they haven't got the obligation to be as transparent as a public institution, and the number of these places is only increasing. Day to day life is clearly hellish, hence the large accounts of suicide, and the fast-track justice service given to these people isn't doing the job.

Also considering you are keen for me to show my evidence, where's your evidence for your last claim? If I didn't suspect better I'd guess you'd just pulled it out of your arse...

So you are saying abuse is rife in detention centres,because the "left wing "Guardian have spoken to a few detanees ,I know a manager from there.and while she admits there were cases of abuse,(ANd the people responseabe are gone and think been charged ) its no where anything like the Guardian or CHannel 4 reported.
It happens in all institutions,I am not saying its right far from it.
But let's put a little perspective on it.


No, we are evil Brits and that's that. Murdering, raping and torturing our way through asylum seekers systematically...

 


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In fact, we're the ones forcing these people on to these boats at gunpoint and then drilling holes in them halfway across the med...

 


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Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 2.52pm

In fact, we're the ones forcing these people on to these boats at gunpoint and then drilling holes in them halfway across the med...

Halfway across? Surely it makes more sense to put the holes in them before we force them at sword-point into the floating coffins.

 

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In fact, we're the ones forcing these people on to these boats at gunpoint and then drilling holes in them halfway across the med...

Halfway across? Surely it makes more sense to put the holes in them before we force them at sword-point into the floating coffins.


No, then they'd sink too close to Africa and have to return. We evil British like to put them in as much danger as we possibly can...

 


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In fact, we're the ones forcing these people on to these boats at gunpoint and then drilling holes in them halfway across the med...

Halfway across? Surely it makes more sense to put the holes in them before we force them at sword-point into the floating coffins.


No, then they'd sink too close to Africa and have to return. We evil British like to put them in as much danger as we possibly can...

Ah. Should send them to Ferguson then.

 

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Quote Stuk at 23 Apr 2015 5.18pm


I haven't got time to read all that. It's your point, you read them and pass on the information.

To say that "we" rape, torture and kill asylum seekers is one of the stupidest posts I have ever read. "we" put some of them in detention centres while they're processed. They're housed and fed and the bullying, I dare say, is from other asylum seekers.


So you ask for my 'proof' then immediately dismiss it and say I should just summarise? Right...

The fact is that 'we' know from these journalistic enquiries (which I do recommend reading - they are very eye-opening) that abuse is rife within detention centres, particularly for women and the LGBT community, who make up a fairly sizeable proportion of asylum seekers. There have been enquiries in to the running of these detention centres and changes have been made, so fewer children are kept indefinitely, but because the companies running the detention centres are private and non-accountable, they haven't got the obligation to be as transparent as a public institution, and the number of these places is only increasing. Day to day life is clearly hellish, hence the large accounts of suicide, and the fast-track justice service given to these people isn't doing the job.

Also considering you are keen for me to show my evidence, where's your evidence for your last claim? If I didn't suspect better I'd guess you'd just pulled it out of your arse...


What is the 'LGBT community'? Is it a single group with shared aims or a moniker you have pulled out of your arsehole in order to try and look 'right on'?

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 24 Apr 15 4.51pm

Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 2.50pm

Quote elgrande at 24 Apr 2015 2.48pm

Quote serial thriller at 24 Apr 2015 12.00pm

Quote Stuk at 23 Apr 2015 5.18pm


I haven't got time to read all that. It's your point, you read them and pass on the information.

To say that "we" rape, torture and kill asylum seekers is one of the stupidest posts I have ever read. "we" put some of them in detention centres while they're processed. They're housed and fed and the bullying, I dare say, is from other asylum seekers.

So you ask for my 'proof' then immediately dismiss it and say I should just summarise? Right...

The fact is that 'we' know from these journalistic enquiries (which I do recommend reading - they are very eye-opening) that abuse is rife within detention centres, particularly for women and the LGBT community, who make up a fairly sizeable proportion of asylum seekers. There have been enquiries in to the running of these detention centres and changes have been made, so fewer children are kept indefinitely, but because the companies running the detention centres are private and non-accountable, they haven't got the obligation to be as transparent as a public institution, and the number of these places is only increasing. Day to day life is clearly hellish, hence the large accounts of suicide, and the fast-track justice service given to these people isn't doing the job.

Also considering you are keen for me to show my evidence, where's your evidence for your last claim? If I didn't suspect better I'd guess you'd just pulled it out of your arse...

So you are saying abuse is rife in detention centres,because the "left wing "Guardian have spoken to a few detanees ,I know a manager from there.and while she admits there were cases of abuse,(ANd the people responseabe are gone and think been charged ) its no where anything like the Guardian or CHannel 4 reported.
It happens in all institutions,I am not saying its right far from it.
But let's put a little perspective on it.


No, we are evil Brits and that's that. Murdering, raping and torturing our way through asylum seekers systematically...

Got mah raping shoes on now...

Seriously, though the truth lies somewhere between the offical line and the news. Detention centers tend to have higher levels of abuse and problems than the general society, which shouldn't really be surprising to anyone as they're full of desperate, poor people and some of the people who are claiming asylum due to the persicuting are the people who'd previously been doing the persicuting.

But there have been abuses, and there are a lot of 'unreported problems', which are commonly seen when large numbers of people are held in close confines.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 24 Apr 15 4.54pm

Quote matt_himself at 24 Apr 2015 3.47pm

Quote serial thriller at 24 Apr 2015 12.00pm

Quote Stuk at 23 Apr 2015 5.18pm


I haven't got time to read all that. It's your point, you read them and pass on the information.

To say that "we" rape, torture and kill asylum seekers is one of the stupidest posts I have ever read. "we" put some of them in detention centres while they're processed. They're housed and fed and the bullying, I dare say, is from other asylum seekers.


So you ask for my 'proof' then immediately dismiss it and say I should just summarise? Right...

The fact is that 'we' know from these journalistic enquiries (which I do recommend reading - they are very eye-opening) that abuse is rife within detention centres, particularly for women and the LGBT community, who make up a fairly sizeable proportion of asylum seekers. There have been enquiries in to the running of these detention centres and changes have been made, so fewer children are kept indefinitely, but because the companies running the detention centres are private and non-accountable, they haven't got the obligation to be as transparent as a public institution, and the number of these places is only increasing. Day to day life is clearly hellish, hence the large accounts of suicide, and the fast-track justice service given to these people isn't doing the job.

Also considering you are keen for me to show my evidence, where's your evidence for your last claim? If I didn't suspect better I'd guess you'd just pulled it out of your arse...


What is the 'LGBT community'? Is it a single group with shared aims or a moniker you have pulled out of your arsehole in order to try and look 'right on'?

Its group of minorities, that whilst different, have often been associated togeather in order to exert influence through shared experience of discrimination due to sexual orientation.

Its not really a community though, thats the interwebs talking, generally the association of LGBT groups is by political necessity and influence. Sometimes termed the Rainbow Alliance.


 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Apr 2015 4.54pm

Quote matt_himself at 24 Apr 2015 3.47pm

Quote serial thriller at 24 Apr 2015 12.00pm

Quote Stuk at 23 Apr 2015 5.18pm


I haven't got time to read all that. It's your point, you read them and pass on the information.

To say that "we" rape, torture and kill asylum seekers is one of the stupidest posts I have ever read. "we" put some of them in detention centres while they're processed. They're housed and fed and the bullying, I dare say, is from other asylum seekers.


So you ask for my 'proof' then immediately dismiss it and say I should just summarise? Right...

The fact is that 'we' know from these journalistic enquiries (which I do recommend reading - they are very eye-opening) that abuse is rife within detention centres, particularly for women and the LGBT community, who make up a fairly sizeable proportion of asylum seekers. There have been enquiries in to the running of these detention centres and changes have been made, so fewer children are kept indefinitely, but because the companies running the detention centres are private and non-accountable, they haven't got the obligation to be as transparent as a public institution, and the number of these places is only increasing. Day to day life is clearly hellish, hence the large accounts of suicide, and the fast-track justice service given to these people isn't doing the job.

Also considering you are keen for me to show my evidence, where's your evidence for your last claim? If I didn't suspect better I'd guess you'd just pulled it out of your arse...


What is the 'LGBT community'? Is it a single group with shared aims or a moniker you have pulled out of your arsehole in order to try and look 'right on'?

Its group of minorities, that whilst different, have often been associated togeather in order to exert influence through shared experience of discrimination due to sexual orientation.

Its not really a community though, thats the interwebs talking, generally the association of LGBT groups is by political necessity and influence. Sometimes termed the Rainbow Alliance.



So in English, it doesn't exist.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Quote serial thriller at 24 Apr 2015 12.00pm

Quote Stuk at 23 Apr 2015 5.18pm


I haven't got time to read all that. It's your point, you read them and pass on the information.

To say that "we" rape, torture and kill asylum seekers is one of the stupidest posts I have ever read. "we" put some of them in detention centres while they're processed. They're housed and fed and the bullying, I dare say, is from other asylum seekers.


So you ask for my 'proof' then immediately dismiss it and say I should just summarise? Right...

The fact is that 'we' know from these journalistic enquiries (which I do recommend reading - they are very eye-opening) that abuse is rife within detention centres, particularly for women and the LGBT community, who make up a fairly sizeable proportion of asylum seekers. There have been enquiries in to the running of these detention centres and changes have been made, so fewer children are kept indefinitely, but because the companies running the detention centres are private and non-accountable, they haven't got the obligation to be as transparent as a public institution, and the number of these places is only increasing. Day to day life is clearly hellish, hence the large accounts of suicide, and the fast-track justice service given to these people isn't doing the job.

Also considering you are keen for me to show my evidence, where's your evidence for your last claim? If I didn't suspect better I'd guess you'd just pulled it out of your arse...


What is the 'LGBT community'? Is it a single group with shared aims or a moniker you have pulled out of your arsehole in order to try and look 'right on'?

Often referred to as community by members of this group. Heard Milliband refer to the international community earlier. Is he being' right on'?
I don't know what your irrational problem is with people who show concern for others. Says a lot.

 

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Quote Stuk at 23 Apr 2015 5.18pm


I haven't got time to read all that. It's your point, you read them and pass on the information.

To say that "we" rape, torture and kill asylum seekers is one of the stupidest posts I have ever read. "we" put some of them in detention centres while they're processed. They're housed and fed and the bullying, I dare say, is from other asylum seekers.


So you ask for my 'proof' then immediately dismiss it and say I should just summarise? Right...

The fact is that 'we' know from these journalistic enquiries (which I do recommend reading - they are very eye-opening) that abuse is rife within detention centres, particularly for women and the LGBT community, who make up a fairly sizeable proportion of asylum seekers. There have been enquiries in to the running of these detention centres and changes have been made, so fewer children are kept indefinitely, but because the companies running the detention centres are private and non-accountable, they haven't got the obligation to be as transparent as a public institution, and the number of these places is only increasing. Day to day life is clearly hellish, hence the large accounts of suicide, and the fast-track justice service given to these people isn't doing the job.

Also considering you are keen for me to show my evidence, where's your evidence for your last claim? If I didn't suspect better I'd guess you'd just pulled it out of your arse...


What is the 'LGBT community'? Is it a single group with shared aims or a moniker you have pulled out of your arsehole in order to try and look 'right on'?

Often referred to as community by members of this group. Heard Milliband refer to the international community earlier. Is he being' right on'?
I don't know what your irrational problem is with people who show concern for others. Says a lot.


I believe no such community exists.

I have concern for others. I don't have concern for an imaginary group and think those who do are bonkers.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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