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Stuk Top half 24 Apr 15 3.12pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Apr 2015 3.06pm Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 2.32pm Quote nickpalaceh at 24 Apr 2015 2.24pm Here is a video of System of A Down playing their first ever show in Armenia. They are all of Armenian descent and embarked on a tour named 'Wake up the souls' in the search for justice for these people. There are 3 short comic-book style videos that are commentated by Tom Morello throughout the gig. May be of interest to some. [Link] Its terrible that our country hasn't accepted it as a genocide, yet Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland have. No it's not, it's nothing to do with us. True, although that doesn't really mean we cannot comment on a genocide. Politicians have generally been quite keen on judgements against other countries and their actions. Then again where does Armenia stand on the Blair / Iraq situation. We can't comment, as we weren't there. Exactly, and that c*** is still alive to get. Optimistic as ever
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Here is a video of System of A Down playing their first ever show in Armenia.
They are all of Armenian descent and embarked on a tour named 'Wake up the souls' in the search for justice for these people.

There are 3 short comic-book style videos that are commentated by Tom Morello throughout the gig. May be of interest to some.
[Link]

Its terrible that our country hasn't accepted it as a genocide, yet Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland have.

No it's not, it's nothing to do with us.

True, although that doesn't really mean we cannot comment on a genocide. Politicians have generally been quite keen on judgements against other countries and their actions.

Then again where does Armenia stand on the Blair / Iraq situation.

We can't comment, as we weren't there.

Exactly, and that c*** is still alive to get.

Optimistic as ever

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ghosteagle 24 Apr 15 3.21pm
Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 3.12pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Apr 2015 3.06pm Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 2.32pm Quote nickpalaceh at 24 Apr 2015 2.24pm Here is a video of System of A Down playing their first ever show in Armenia. They are all of Armenian descent and embarked on a tour named 'Wake up the souls' in the search for justice for these people. There are 3 short comic-book style videos that are commentated by Tom Morello throughout the gig. May be of interest to some. [Link] Its terrible that our country hasn't accepted it as a genocide, yet Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland have. No it's not, it's nothing to do with us. True, although that doesn't really mean we cannot comment on a genocide. Politicians have generally been quite keen on judgements against other countries and their actions. Then again where does Armenia stand on the Blair / Iraq situation. We can't comment, as we weren't there. Exactly, and that c*** is still alive to get. The logical implications of that statement render it inert.
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There are 3 short comic-book style videos that are commentated by Tom Morello throughout the gig. May be of interest to some.
[Link]

Its terrible that our country hasn't accepted it as a genocide, yet Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland have.

No it's not, it's nothing to do with us.

True, although that doesn't really mean we cannot comment on a genocide. Politicians have generally been quite keen on judgements against other countries and their actions.

Then again where does Armenia stand on the Blair / Iraq situation.

We can't comment, as we weren't there.

Exactly, and that c*** is still alive to get.

The logical implications of that statement render it inert.

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Stuk Top half 24 Apr 15 3.30pm
Quote ghosteagle at 24 Apr 2015 3.21pm Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 3.12pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Apr 2015 3.06pm Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 2.32pm Quote nickpalaceh at 24 Apr 2015 2.24pm Here is a video of System of A Down playing their first ever show in Armenia. They are all of Armenian descent and embarked on a tour named 'Wake up the souls' in the search for justice for these people. There are 3 short comic-book style videos that are commentated by Tom Morello throughout the gig. May be of interest to some. [Link] Its terrible that our country hasn't accepted it as a genocide, yet Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland have. No it's not, it's nothing to do with us. True, although that doesn't really mean we cannot comment on a genocide. Politicians have generally been quite keen on judgements against other countries and their actions. Then again where does Armenia stand on the Blair / Iraq situation. We can't comment, as we weren't there. Exactly, and that c*** is still alive to get. The logical implications of that statement render it inert. On whether it was a genocide or not. Stop posting like a moron. Optimistic as ever
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There are 3 short comic-book style videos that are commentated by Tom Morello throughout the gig. May be of interest to some.
[Link]

Its terrible that our country hasn't accepted it as a genocide, yet Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland have.

No it's not, it's nothing to do with us.

True, although that doesn't really mean we cannot comment on a genocide. Politicians have generally been quite keen on judgements against other countries and their actions.

Then again where does Armenia stand on the Blair / Iraq situation.

We can't comment, as we weren't there.

Exactly, and that c*** is still alive to get.

The logical implications of that statement render it inert.

On whether it was a genocide or not. Stop posting like a moron.

Optimistic as ever

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ghosteagle 24 Apr 15 3.34pm
Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 3.30pm Quote ghosteagle at 24 Apr 2015 3.21pm Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 3.12pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Apr 2015 3.06pm Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 2.32pm Quote nickpalaceh at 24 Apr 2015 2.24pm Here is a video of System of A Down playing their first ever show in Armenia. They are all of Armenian descent and embarked on a tour named 'Wake up the souls' in the search for justice for these people. There are 3 short comic-book style videos that are commentated by Tom Morello throughout the gig. May be of interest to some. [Link] Its terrible that our country hasn't accepted it as a genocide, yet Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland have. No it's not, it's nothing to do with us. True, although that doesn't really mean we cannot comment on a genocide. Politicians have generally been quite keen on judgements against other countries and their actions. Then again where does Armenia stand on the Blair / Iraq situation. We can't comment, as we weren't there. Exactly, and that c* is still alive to get. The logical implications of that statement render it inert. On whether it was a genocide or not.** Stop posting like a moron. Still doesn't stand up to logic. That decision could be made on evidence.
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Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 2.32pm

Quote nickpalaceh at 24 Apr 2015 2.24pm

There are 3 short comic-book style videos that are commentated by Tom Morello throughout the gig. May be of interest to some.
[Link]

Its terrible that our country hasn't accepted it as a genocide, yet Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland have.

No it's not, it's nothing to do with us.

True, although that doesn't really mean we cannot comment on a genocide. Politicians have generally been quite keen on judgements against other countries and their actions.

Then again where does Armenia stand on the Blair / Iraq situation.

We can't comment, as we weren't there.

Exactly, and that c*** is still alive to get.

The logical implications of that statement render it inert.

On whether it was a genocide or not. Stop posting like a moron.

Still doesn't stand up to logic. That decision could be made on evidence.

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 24 Apr 15 3.40pm
Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 2.30pm Quote Kermit8 at 24 Apr 2015 1.05pm Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 11.45am Quote Kermit8 at 24 Apr 2015 11.15am [Link] 100 years ago today. Didn't know much about it until reading a few articles recently. Inspiration for Hitler apparently as he thought his crimes would be ignored by the rest of the world in much the same they did with the Ottomans and the awful fate of those one million plus they exterminated. Not quite sure why the Turkish today won't own up to it and move on. Because the Turkish today had nothing to do with it. Why has everyone got to be seen to apologise for historical s*** that is nothing to do with now. By that logic the UK Establishment today should not bother taking responsibility by prosecuting Yewtree crimes that were committed under earlier regimes and has nothing to do with them. Recognition of a major crime committed rather than constant denial and, thus, having some kind of belated minor justice is very important to millions of Armenians. And for a significant number it was their grandparents that were murdered by the grandparents of some Turks alive today. Not the latter's fault but at the same time hardly ancient history. Not at all, they're going after those who committed the offences rather than their relatives 100 years down the line. No one involved in this, on either side, is alive and they have differing views of what happened. The Armenians don't have any right to force Turkey to make statements they don't want to or agree with. How long do you actually go back for these 'state' apologies ?? Should we as a nation be parading outside every Scandinavian embassy demanding apologies for the Vikings murdering, raping and pillaging, taking slaves, burning monasteries and giving us the city of Newcastle and its whingeing inhabitants ??? If so - I am soooooo there... Edited by The Sash (24 Apr 2015 3.41pm) As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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100 years ago today.

Didn't know much about it until reading a few articles recently. Inspiration for Hitler apparently as he thought his crimes would be ignored by the rest of the world in much the same they did with the Ottomans and the awful fate of those one million plus they exterminated.

Not quite sure why the Turkish today won't own up to it and move on.

Because the Turkish today had nothing to do with it.

Why has everyone got to be seen to apologise for historical s*** that is nothing to do with now.

By that logic the UK Establishment today should not bother taking responsibility by prosecuting Yewtree crimes that were committed under earlier regimes and has nothing to do with them.

Recognition of a major crime committed rather than constant denial and, thus, having some kind of belated minor justice is very important to millions of Armenians. And for a significant number it was their grandparents that were murdered by the grandparents of some Turks alive today. Not the latter's fault but at the same time hardly ancient history.

Not at all, they're going after those who committed the offences rather than their relatives 100 years down the line.

No one involved in this, on either side, is alive and they have differing views of what happened. The Armenians don't have any right to force Turkey to make statements they don't want to or agree with.

How long do you actually go back for these 'state' apologies ??

Should we as a nation be parading outside every Scandinavian embassy demanding apologies for the Vikings murdering, raping and pillaging, taking slaves, burning monasteries and giving us the city of Newcastle and its whingeing inhabitants ???

If so - I am soooooo there...

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Stuk Top half 24 Apr 15 3.44pm
Quote The Sash at 24 Apr 2015 3.40pm Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 2.30pm Quote Kermit8 at 24 Apr 2015 1.05pm Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 11.45am Quote Kermit8 at 24 Apr 2015 11.15am [Link] 100 years ago today. Didn't know much about it until reading a few articles recently. Inspiration for Hitler apparently as he thought his crimes would be ignored by the rest of the world in much the same they did with the Ottomans and the awful fate of those one million plus they exterminated. Not quite sure why the Turkish today won't own up to it and move on. Because the Turkish today had nothing to do with it. Why has everyone got to be seen to apologise for historical s*** that is nothing to do with now. By that logic the UK Establishment today should not bother taking responsibility by prosecuting Yewtree crimes that were committed under earlier regimes and has nothing to do with them. Recognition of a major crime committed rather than constant denial and, thus, having some kind of belated minor justice is very important to millions of Armenians. And for a significant number it was their grandparents that were murdered by the grandparents of some Turks alive today. Not the latter's fault but at the same time hardly ancient history. Not at all, they're going after those who committed the offences rather than their relatives 100 years down the line. No one involved in this, on either side, is alive and they have differing views of what happened. The Armenians don't have any right to force Turkey to make statements they don't want to or agree with. How long do you actually go back for these 'state' apologies ?? Should we as a nation be parading outside every Scandinavian embassy demanding apologies for the Vikings murdering, raping and pillaging, taking slaves, burning monasteries and giving us the city of Newcastle and its whingeing inhabitants ??? If so - I am soooooo there... Edited by The Sash (24 Apr 2015 3.41pm) Blair did one about slavery. Approx 200 years after we'd abolished it. Optimistic as ever
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100 years ago today.

Not quite sure why the Turkish today won't own up to it and move on.

Because the Turkish today had nothing to do with it.

Why has everyone got to be seen to apologise for historical s*** that is nothing to do with now.

By that logic the UK Establishment today should not bother taking responsibility by prosecuting Yewtree crimes that were committed under earlier regimes and has nothing to do with them.

Not at all, they're going after those who committed the offences rather than their relatives 100 years down the line.

How long do you actually go back for these 'state' apologies ??

If so - I am soooooo there...

Edited by The Sash (24 Apr 2015 3.41pm)

Blair did one about slavery. Approx 200 years after we'd abolished it.

Optimistic as ever

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ghosteagle 24 Apr 15 3.44pm
How long do you actually go back for these 'state' apologies ?? Should we as a nation be parading outside every Scandinavian embassy demanding apologies for the Vikings murdering, raping and pillaging, taking slaves, burning monasteries and giving us the city of Newcastle and its whingeing inhabitants ??? If so - I am soooooo there... Recent studies indicate that not much of this actually went on on account of the Vikings tended to take their families with them......a tit-bit remembered from a recent documentary although i can remember not which one.... Edited by The Sash (24 Apr 2015 3.41pm) Edited by ghosteagle (24 Apr 2015 3.44pm)
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How long do you actually go back for these 'state' apologies ??

Should we as a nation be parading outside every Scandinavian embassy demanding apologies for the Vikings murdering, raping and pillaging, taking slaves, burning monasteries and giving us the city of Newcastle and its whingeing inhabitants ???

If so - I am soooooo there...

Recent studies indicate that not much of this actually went on on account of the Vikings tended to take their families with them......a tit-bit remembered from a recent documentary although i can remember not which one....

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 24 Apr 15 3.46pm
Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 3.44pm Quote The Sash at 24 Apr 2015 3.40pm Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 2.30pm Quote Kermit8 at 24 Apr 2015 1.05pm Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 11.45am Quote Kermit8 at 24 Apr 2015 11.15am [Link] 100 years ago today. Didn't know much about it until reading a few articles recently. Inspiration for Hitler apparently as he thought his crimes would be ignored by the rest of the world in much the same they did with the Ottomans and the awful fate of those one million plus they exterminated. Not quite sure why the Turkish today won't own up to it and move on. Because the Turkish today had nothing to do with it. Why has everyone got to be seen to apologise for historical s*** that is nothing to do with now. By that logic the UK Establishment today should not bother taking responsibility by prosecuting Yewtree crimes that were committed under earlier regimes and has nothing to do with them. Recognition of a major crime committed rather than constant denial and, thus, having some kind of belated minor justice is very important to millions of Armenians. And for a significant number it was their grandparents that were murdered by the grandparents of some Turks alive today. Not the latter's fault but at the same time hardly ancient history. Not at all, they're going after those who committed the offences rather than their relatives 100 years down the line. No one involved in this, on either side, is alive and they have differing views of what happened. The Armenians don't have any right to force Turkey to make statements they don't want to or agree with. How long do you actually go back for these 'state' apologies ?? Should we as a nation be parading outside every Scandinavian embassy demanding apologies for the Vikings murdering, raping and pillaging, taking slaves, burning monasteries and giving us the city of Newcastle and its whingeing inhabitants ??? If so - I am soooooo there... Edited by The Sash (24 Apr 2015 3.41pm) Blair did one about slavery. Approx 200 years after we'd abolished it. .......and didn't he do one about The Potato famine? Pro USA & Israel
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100 years ago today.

Not quite sure why the Turkish today won't own up to it and move on.

Because the Turkish today had nothing to do with it.

Why has everyone got to be seen to apologise for historical s*** that is nothing to do with now.

By that logic the UK Establishment today should not bother taking responsibility by prosecuting Yewtree crimes that were committed under earlier regimes and has nothing to do with them.

Not at all, they're going after those who committed the offences rather than their relatives 100 years down the line.

How long do you actually go back for these 'state' apologies ??

If so - I am soooooo there...

Edited by The Sash (24 Apr 2015 3.41pm)

Blair did one about slavery. Approx 200 years after we'd abolished it.

.......and didn't he do one about The Potato famine?

Pro USA & Israel

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 24 Apr 15 3.47pm
Quote ghosteagle at 24 Apr 2015 3.44pm How long do you actually go back for these 'state' apologies ?? Should we as a nation be parading outside every Scandinavian embassy demanding apologies for the Vikings murdering, raping and pillaging, taking slaves, burning monasteries and giving us the city of Newcastle and its whingeing inhabitants ??? If so - I am soooooo there... Recent studies indicate that not much of this actually went on on account of the Vikings tended to take their families with them......a tit-bit remembered from a recent documentary although i can remember not which one.... Edited by The Sash (24 Apr 2015 3.41pm) Edited by ghosteagle (24 Apr 2015 3.44pm) I bet that's made up...'Bjorn, we are popping over to Northumbria for a tear up with they Saxons and a bit of the old raping and a pillaging..do you think I should take Helga and wee Rolf ???' 'Hell no, the rapings the best bit Sven - she'll never let you do any raping while your there - you know what women are like' Edited by The Sash (24 Apr 2015 3.51pm) As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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How long do you actually go back for these 'state' apologies ??

If so - I am soooooo there...

Edited by The Sash (24 Apr 2015 3.41pm)

Edited by ghosteagle (24 Apr 2015 3.44pm)

I bet that's made up...'Bjorn, we are popping over to Northumbria for a tear up with they Saxons and a bit of the old raping and a pillaging..do you think I should take Helga and wee Rolf ???'

'Hell no, the rapings the best bit Sven - she'll never let you do any raping while your there - you know what women are like'

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Stuk Top half 24 Apr 15 3.49pm
Quote Jimenez at 24 Apr 2015 3.46pm Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 3.44pm Quote The Sash at 24 Apr 2015 3.40pm Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 2.30pm Quote Kermit8 at 24 Apr 2015 1.05pm Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 11.45am Quote Kermit8 at 24 Apr 2015 11.15am [Link] 100 years ago today. Didn't know much about it until reading a few articles recently. Inspiration for Hitler apparently as he thought his crimes would be ignored by the rest of the world in much the same they did with the Ottomans and the awful fate of those one million plus they exterminated. Not quite sure why the Turkish today won't own up to it and move on. Because the Turkish today had nothing to do with it. Why has everyone got to be seen to apologise for historical s*** that is nothing to do with now. By that logic the UK Establishment today should not bother taking responsibility by prosecuting Yewtree crimes that were committed under earlier regimes and has nothing to do with them. Recognition of a major crime committed rather than constant denial and, thus, having some kind of belated minor justice is very important to millions of Armenians. And for a significant number it was their grandparents that were murdered by the grandparents of some Turks alive today. Not the latter's fault but at the same time hardly ancient history. Not at all, they're going after those who committed the offences rather than their relatives 100 years down the line. No one involved in this, on either side, is alive and they have differing views of what happened. The Armenians don't have any right to force Turkey to make statements they don't want to or agree with. How long do you actually go back for these 'state' apologies ?? Should we as a nation be parading outside every Scandinavian embassy demanding apologies for the Vikings murdering, raping and pillaging, taking slaves, burning monasteries and giving us the city of Newcastle and its whingeing inhabitants ??? If so - I am soooooo there... Edited by The Sash (24 Apr 2015 3.41pm) Blair did one about slavery. Approx 200 years after we'd abolished it. .......and didn't he do one about The Potato famine? He did. To be sure, to be sure. Optimistic as ever
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100 years ago today.

Not quite sure why the Turkish today won't own up to it and move on.

Because the Turkish today had nothing to do with it.

Why has everyone got to be seen to apologise for historical s*** that is nothing to do with now.

By that logic the UK Establishment today should not bother taking responsibility by prosecuting Yewtree crimes that were committed under earlier regimes and has nothing to do with them.

Not at all, they're going after those who committed the offences rather than their relatives 100 years down the line.

How long do you actually go back for these 'state' apologies ??

If so - I am soooooo there...

Edited by The Sash (24 Apr 2015 3.41pm)

Blair did one about slavery. Approx 200 years after we'd abolished it.

.......and didn't he do one about The Potato famine?

He did. To be sure, to be sure.

Optimistic as ever

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 24 Apr 15 3.49pm
Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 3.44pm Quote The Sash at 24 Apr 2015 3.40pm Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 2.30pm Quote Kermit8 at 24 Apr 2015 1.05pm Quote Stuk at 24 Apr 2015 11.45am Quote Kermit8 at 24 Apr 2015 11.15am [Link] 100 years ago today. Didn't know much about it until reading a few articles recently. Inspiration for Hitler apparently as he thought his crimes would be ignored by the rest of the world in much the same they did with the Ottomans and the awful fate of those one million plus they exterminated. Not quite sure why the Turkish today won't own up to it and move on. Because the Turkish today had nothing to do with it. Why has everyone got to be seen to apologise for historical s*** that is nothing to do with now. By that logic the UK Establishment today should not bother taking responsibility by prosecuting Yewtree crimes that were committed under earlier regimes and has nothing to do with them. Recognition of a major crime committed rather than constant denial and, thus, having some kind of belated minor justice is very important to millions of Armenians. And for a significant number it was their grandparents that were murdered by the grandparents of some Turks alive today. Not the latter's fault but at the same time hardly ancient history. Not at all, they're going after those who committed the offences rather than their relatives 100 years down the line. No one involved in this, on either side, is alive and they have differing views of what happened. The Armenians don't have any right to force Turkey to make statements they don't want to or agree with. How long do you actually go back for these 'state' apologies ?? Should we as a nation be parading outside every Scandinavian embassy demanding apologies for the Vikings murdering, raping and pillaging, taking slaves, burning monasteries and giving us the city of Newcastle and its whingeing inhabitants ??? If so - I am soooooo there... Edited by The Sash (24 Apr 2015 3.41pm) Blair did one about slavery. Approx 200 years after we'd abolished it. Which is kind of where I am going with it - its totally empty and meaningless self flagellation. If we had abolished it the Tuesday before then absolutely... As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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100 years ago today.

Not quite sure why the Turkish today won't own up to it and move on.

Because the Turkish today had nothing to do with it.

Why has everyone got to be seen to apologise for historical s*** that is nothing to do with now.

By that logic the UK Establishment today should not bother taking responsibility by prosecuting Yewtree crimes that were committed under earlier regimes and has nothing to do with them.

Not at all, they're going after those who committed the offences rather than their relatives 100 years down the line.

How long do you actually go back for these 'state' apologies ??

If so - I am soooooo there...

Edited by The Sash (24 Apr 2015 3.41pm)

Blair did one about slavery. Approx 200 years after we'd abolished it.

Which is kind of where I am going with it - its totally empty and meaningless self flagellation.

If we had abolished it the Tuesday before then absolutely...

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Quote The Sash at 24 Apr 2015 3.47pm Quote ghosteagle at 24 Apr 2015 3.44pm How long do you actually go back for these 'state' apologies ?? Should we as a nation be parading outside every Scandinavian embassy demanding apologies for the Vikings murdering, raping and pillaging, taking slaves, burning monasteries and giving us the city of Newcastle and its whingeing inhabitants ??? If so - I am soooooo there... Recent studies indicate that not much of this actually went on on account of the Vikings tended to take their families with them......a tit-bit remembered from a recent documentary although i can remember not which one.... Edited by The Sash (24 Apr 2015 3.41pm) Edited by ghosteagle (24 Apr 2015 3.44pm) I bet that's made up...'Bjorn, we are popping over to Northumbria for a tear up with they Saxons and a bit of the old raping and a pillaging..do you think I should take Helga and wee Rolf ???' I imagine Helga as a huge and imposing blonde lady well aware of what goes on on these 'boys bonding trips' and resolute that her and wee Rolf will be coming!
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How long do you actually go back for these 'state' apologies ??

If so - I am soooooo there...

Edited by The Sash (24 Apr 2015 3.41pm)

Edited by ghosteagle (24 Apr 2015 3.44pm)

I bet that's made up...'Bjorn, we are popping over to Northumbria for a tear up with they Saxons and a bit of the old raping and a pillaging..do you think I should take Helga and wee Rolf ???'

I imagine Helga as a huge and imposing blonde lady well aware of what goes on on these 'boys bonding trips' and resolute that her and wee Rolf will be coming!

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