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Quote The Sash at 30 Jul 2015 1.37pm
None of which can be laid at the doorstep of 'diversity'...you must be thinking of the flawed ideal of multiculturalism Which for about 85% of the population generally functions quite well. Indeed - most people tend to rub along OK - its those with the agendas at either end of the scale who seem to be the problem - that's the flaw - human beings are involved
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Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 12.29pm
It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
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Quote leggedstruggle at 30 Jul 2015 1.14pm
Quote The Sash at 30 Jul 2015 12.32pm
Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 12.29pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Jul 2015 11.53am
Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 12.49am
Quote johnfirewall at 29 Jul 2015 11.44pm
Quote fed up eagle at 29 Jul 2015 10.57pm
For me Diversity is reverse racism. It gives ethnics and black people the chance to exclude white people and stick the boot in. It also gives them the chance to bang on about things that happened hundreds of years ago like the slave trade and blame us for what our ancestors did. The whole diversity industry should be banned/outlawed along with political correctness and all that other PC b**ls**t. The concept of 'misappropriation' is often used to aid this exclusion. It can allegedly cause distress to those whose cultures are being 'misappropriated' but I personally think that's all utter b0ll0cks. I hate middle-class people hanging out in Peckham in sportswear emulating poor people and would like to exclude them back to suburbia but this has fcuk all to do with the fact that they are white people, in a black area that was previously white so I don't accept that people can have a valid gripe over someone doing something that other races usually do. Granted, the UKIP guy's Calypso song was more offensive than Boy George, or Ali Campbell, or Sting, The Clash etc. but the notion of misappropriation didn't exist then, while racism obviously did. I despise Trustafarians and I'm pretty upset that I can't take issue with them misappropriating my culture but I'd rather have universal tolerance than see white people with the wrong hairstyle being cast in to the same pit as the Black & White Minstrels Edited by johnfirewall (29 Jul 2015 11.45pm)
Edited by fed up eagle (30 Jul 2015 12.53am) My problem is with people who think that diversity is about giving more rights to groups they dislike, rather than actually applying the same legal rights. What disturbs me most is how easily people seem to jump on the idea that giving say gay citizens the same rights as straight people is somehow wrong.
They use it as a platform for demonising certain elements of society, complementing their own divisive ends and downright exclusion The soppy tart at Goldmsiths being a prime example Apart from people being sacked for using the word 'black' in the wrong context,carte blanche for certain 'communities' to organise child abuse gangs, the right of certain 'communities' to carry knifes and be excused from wearing crash helmets, the right of gay activists to prosecute people who decline to make cakes supporting same-sex 'marriage' even though it is illegal in the region in which the bakery is., the 'right' of certain communities to praise and encourage terrorism.
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Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 3.11pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 30 Jul 2015 1.14pm
Quote The Sash at 30 Jul 2015 12.32pm
Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 12.29pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Jul 2015 11.53am
Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 12.49am
Quote johnfirewall at 29 Jul 2015 11.44pm
Quote fed up eagle at 29 Jul 2015 10.57pm
For me Diversity is reverse racism. It gives ethnics and black people the chance to exclude white people and stick the boot in. It also gives them the chance to bang on about things that happened hundreds of years ago like the slave trade and blame us for what our ancestors did. The whole diversity industry should be banned/outlawed along with political correctness and all that other PC b**ls**t. The concept of 'misappropriation' is often used to aid this exclusion. It can allegedly cause distress to those whose cultures are being 'misappropriated' but I personally think that's all utter b0ll0cks. I hate middle-class people hanging out in Peckham in sportswear emulating poor people and would like to exclude them back to suburbia but this has fcuk all to do with the fact that they are white people, in a black area that was previously white so I don't accept that people can have a valid gripe over someone doing something that other races usually do. Granted, the UKIP guy's Calypso song was more offensive than Boy George, or Ali Campbell, or Sting, The Clash etc. but the notion of misappropriation didn't exist then, while racism obviously did. I despise Trustafarians and I'm pretty upset that I can't take issue with them misappropriating my culture but I'd rather have universal tolerance than see white people with the wrong hairstyle being cast in to the same pit as the Black & White Minstrels Edited by johnfirewall (29 Jul 2015 11.45pm)
Edited by fed up eagle (30 Jul 2015 12.53am) My problem is with people who think that diversity is about giving more rights to groups they dislike, rather than actually applying the same legal rights. What disturbs me most is how easily people seem to jump on the idea that giving say gay citizens the same rights as straight people is somehow wrong.
They use it as a platform for demonising certain elements of society, complementing their own divisive ends and downright exclusion The soppy tart at Goldmsiths being a prime example Apart from people being sacked for using the word 'black' in the wrong context,carte blanche for certain 'communities' to organise child abuse gangs, the right of certain 'communities' to carry knifes and be excused from wearing crash helmets, the right of gay activists to prosecute people who decline to make cakes supporting same-sex 'marriage' even though it is illegal in the region in which the bakery is., the 'right' of certain communities to praise and encourage terrorism.
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| The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 30 Jul 15 3.23pm |
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Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 3.11pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 30 Jul 2015 1.14pm
Quote The Sash at 30 Jul 2015 12.32pm
Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 12.29pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Jul 2015 11.53am
Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 12.49am
Quote johnfirewall at 29 Jul 2015 11.44pm
Quote fed up eagle at 29 Jul 2015 10.57pm
For me Diversity is reverse racism. It gives ethnics and black people the chance to exclude white people and stick the boot in. It also gives them the chance to bang on about things that happened hundreds of years ago like the slave trade and blame us for what our ancestors did. The whole diversity industry should be banned/outlawed along with political correctness and all that other PC b**ls**t. The concept of 'misappropriation' is often used to aid this exclusion. It can allegedly cause distress to those whose cultures are being 'misappropriated' but I personally think that's all utter b0ll0cks. I hate middle-class people hanging out in Peckham in sportswear emulating poor people and would like to exclude them back to suburbia but this has fcuk all to do with the fact that they are white people, in a black area that was previously white so I don't accept that people can have a valid gripe over someone doing something that other races usually do. Granted, the UKIP guy's Calypso song was more offensive than Boy George, or Ali Campbell, or Sting, The Clash etc. but the notion of misappropriation didn't exist then, while racism obviously did. I despise Trustafarians and I'm pretty upset that I can't take issue with them misappropriating my culture but I'd rather have universal tolerance than see white people with the wrong hairstyle being cast in to the same pit as the Black & White Minstrels Edited by johnfirewall (29 Jul 2015 11.45pm)
Edited by fed up eagle (30 Jul 2015 12.53am) My problem is with people who think that diversity is about giving more rights to groups they dislike, rather than actually applying the same legal rights. What disturbs me most is how easily people seem to jump on the idea that giving say gay citizens the same rights as straight people is somehow wrong.
They use it as a platform for demonising certain elements of society, complementing their own divisive ends and downright exclusion The soppy tart at Goldmsiths being a prime example Apart from people being sacked for using the word 'black' in the wrong context,carte blanche for certain 'communities' to organise child abuse gangs, the right of certain 'communities' to carry knifes and be excused from wearing crash helmets, the right of gay activists to prosecute people who decline to make cakes supporting same-sex 'marriage' even though it is illegal in the region in which the bakery is., the 'right' of certain communities to praise and encourage terrorism.
No, no its not.... Diversity is all about inclusion, the inclusion of individuals representing more than one national origin, colour, religion, socioeconomic group, sexual orientation, etc etc..to deny one group the same rights as everyone else is simply wrong. I suppose you could argue that as they (said couple) did this on religious grounds then their rights of inclusion weren't upheld however as the law stands on discrimination they broke it, no hounding about it.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 30 Jul 15 4.26pm |
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Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 3.11pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 30 Jul 2015 1.14pm
Quote The Sash at 30 Jul 2015 12.32pm
Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 12.29pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Jul 2015 11.53am
Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 12.49am
Quote johnfirewall at 29 Jul 2015 11.44pm
Quote fed up eagle at 29 Jul 2015 10.57pm
For me Diversity is reverse racism. It gives ethnics and black people the chance to exclude white people and stick the boot in. It also gives them the chance to bang on about things that happened hundreds of years ago like the slave trade and blame us for what our ancestors did. The whole diversity industry should be banned/outlawed along with political correctness and all that other PC b**ls**t. The concept of 'misappropriation' is often used to aid this exclusion. It can allegedly cause distress to those whose cultures are being 'misappropriated' but I personally think that's all utter b0ll0cks. I hate middle-class people hanging out in Peckham in sportswear emulating poor people and would like to exclude them back to suburbia but this has fcuk all to do with the fact that they are white people, in a black area that was previously white so I don't accept that people can have a valid gripe over someone doing something that other races usually do. Granted, the UKIP guy's Calypso song was more offensive than Boy George, or Ali Campbell, or Sting, The Clash etc. but the notion of misappropriation didn't exist then, while racism obviously did. I despise Trustafarians and I'm pretty upset that I can't take issue with them misappropriating my culture but I'd rather have universal tolerance than see white people with the wrong hairstyle being cast in to the same pit as the Black & White Minstrels Edited by johnfirewall (29 Jul 2015 11.45pm)
Edited by fed up eagle (30 Jul 2015 12.53am) My problem is with people who think that diversity is about giving more rights to groups they dislike, rather than actually applying the same legal rights. What disturbs me most is how easily people seem to jump on the idea that giving say gay citizens the same rights as straight people is somehow wrong.
They use it as a platform for demonising certain elements of society, complementing their own divisive ends and downright exclusion The soppy tart at Goldmsiths being a prime example Apart from people being sacked for using the word 'black' in the wrong context,carte blanche for certain 'communities' to organise child abuse gangs, the right of certain 'communities' to carry knifes and be excused from wearing crash helmets, the right of gay activists to prosecute people who decline to make cakes supporting same-sex 'marriage' even though it is illegal in the region in which the bakery is., the 'right' of certain communities to praise and encourage terrorism.
You mean the ones who took the reservation, and then refused them the room because they were gay. That's not more rights, that's the same rights as everyone else.
As a business owner, you have legal obligations to treat customers reasonably and fairly. I have a small business, I'm a service provider, the law is pretty clear that once I engage in business or contract, my personal beliefs are not a basis for breaking that agreement, without consequence. A B+B is not a Christian organization. Its a place that offers bed and breakfast.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 30 Jul 15 4.28pm |
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Quote Superfly at 30 Jul 2015 1.52pm
Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 12.29pm
It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
I must have imagined the late 70s and 80s, and the National Front and ****bashing etc.
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| fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 30 Jul 15 4.42pm |
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Quote Superfly at 30 Jul 2015 1.52pm
Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 12.29pm
It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
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| fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 30 Jul 15 4.47pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Jul 2015 4.26pm
Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 3.11pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 30 Jul 2015 1.14pm
Quote The Sash at 30 Jul 2015 12.32pm
Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 12.29pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Jul 2015 11.53am
Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 12.49am
Quote johnfirewall at 29 Jul 2015 11.44pm
Quote fed up eagle at 29 Jul 2015 10.57pm
For me Diversity is reverse racism. It gives ethnics and black people the chance to exclude white people and stick the boot in. It also gives them the chance to bang on about things that happened hundreds of years ago like the slave trade and blame us for what our ancestors did. The whole diversity industry should be banned/outlawed along with political correctness and all that other PC b**ls**t. The concept of 'misappropriation' is often used to aid this exclusion. It can allegedly cause distress to those whose cultures are being 'misappropriated' but I personally think that's all utter b0ll0cks. I hate middle-class people hanging out in Peckham in sportswear emulating poor people and would like to exclude them back to suburbia but this has fcuk all to do with the fact that they are white people, in a black area that was previously white so I don't accept that people can have a valid gripe over someone doing something that other races usually do. Granted, the UKIP guy's Calypso song was more offensive than Boy George, or Ali Campbell, or Sting, The Clash etc. but the notion of misappropriation didn't exist then, while racism obviously did. I despise Trustafarians and I'm pretty upset that I can't take issue with them misappropriating my culture but I'd rather have universal tolerance than see white people with the wrong hairstyle being cast in to the same pit as the Black & White Minstrels Edited by johnfirewall (29 Jul 2015 11.45pm)
Edited by fed up eagle (30 Jul 2015 12.53am) My problem is with people who think that diversity is about giving more rights to groups they dislike, rather than actually applying the same legal rights. What disturbs me most is how easily people seem to jump on the idea that giving say gay citizens the same rights as straight people is somehow wrong.
They use it as a platform for demonising certain elements of society, complementing their own divisive ends and downright exclusion The soppy tart at Goldmsiths being a prime example Apart from people being sacked for using the word 'black' in the wrong context,carte blanche for certain 'communities' to organise child abuse gangs, the right of certain 'communities' to carry knifes and be excused from wearing crash helmets, the right of gay activists to prosecute people who decline to make cakes supporting same-sex 'marriage' even though it is illegal in the region in which the bakery is., the 'right' of certain communities to praise and encourage terrorism.
You mean the ones who took the reservation, and then refused them the room because they were gay. That's not more rights, that's the same rights as everyone else.
As a business owner, you have legal obligations to treat customers reasonably and fairly. I have a small business, I'm a service provider, the law is pretty clear that once I engage in business or contract, my personal beliefs are not a basis for breaking that agreement, without consequence. A B+B is not a Christian organization. Its a place that offers bed and breakfast.
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| fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 30 Jul 15 4.50pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Jul 2015 4.28pm
Quote Superfly at 30 Jul 2015 1.52pm
Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 12.29pm
It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
I must have imagined the late 70s and 80s, and the National Front and ****bashing etc.
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Quote Superfly at 30 Jul 2015 1.52pm
Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 12.29pm
It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
Well there was those race riots, the National Front, no marriage rights for gays (which was only removed as a mental illness in the 80s), the inferior pay for women, discrimination against race and gender in the work place, gay bashing, terms like '****', '****' etc being acceptable, prejudice in law enforcement, the fact it wasn't illegal to rape your wife, an almost dearth of women and racial ethnicities in management positions, let alone the police force. I definitely remember the race riots, though. Seemed to be quite a few of them. Maybe you think people got along a lot better then? Good times to be white, straight and have a p****, but definitely a lot worse for everyone else.
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Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 4.50pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Jul 2015 4.28pm
Quote Superfly at 30 Jul 2015 1.52pm
Quote fed up eagle at 30 Jul 2015 12.29pm
It's not that at all. Why shouldn't gay people have the same rights as straight people, or black people the same as whites. The problem is that this obsession with diversity is going so far that some groups are getting even more rights just because some people-usually of a liberal dis-position -are petrified of being branded sexist, racist, fascist. It's becoming ridiculous now. We got on fine before all this nonsense. The British people are the most tolerant people on this planet.
I must have imagined the late 70s and 80s, and the National Front and ****bashing etc.
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