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Despite your potshots at UKIP, you must be gutted that you have lost this election.

Therefore, who do you blame?

You've come in your pants there tootsie, if the latest polls are anything to go by...


Final YouGov Nowcast: Con 276, Lab 276, Lib Dem 23, UKIP 1, SNP 51 [Link]

So you are saying that Labour are left wing?

Interesting.

No, that the anti austerity, we hold the balance of power, SNP are in the driving seat.

Excuse me.

Do you think Labour are 'anti austerity'?

More to the point, why hasn't the 'anti austerity' got votes outside of Scotland?


Are you thick?


I ask again. Do you think Labour are anti austerity?

Furthermore, answer the original question. Why have the left failed int his election?


Labour are not anti austerity.
I might answer the second question after the election.
As far as I'm concerned, Labour (lesser of the 2 main party evils) with a left leaning SNP coalition is probably my most favoured of the likely outcomes.


Don't dodge the question.

According to you the 'masses' we're going to rise against austerity.

austerity simply isn't an issue in this election, as far as the voters are concerned.

'Credible' TUSC will lose all their deposits.

The left has lost.

Plus, you hate Labour, why are you potentially celebrating them getting power? Hypocrisy?


UKIP lost their deposits in their first GE.
If you had the intellectual capacity to digest what I wrote, you would have seen that I said labour are the lesser of 2 evils.
If a left wing SNP form part of a UK government, how would the left have lost?

Hypocrite.

You have said previously that Labour betray socialist ideals, yet here you are lauding them as the least worse option.

I therefore ask again, why has the 'anti austerity' movement achieved nothing in this election?

The Greens, Respect and 'credible' TUSC will be nowhere. Why?


Edited by matt_himself (06 May 2015 8.49pm)

Because they won't get as many votes as the other parties. It's not that difficult to comprehend is it?
Why were ukip nowhere in their first election? My word Matthew the old grey matter isn't working for you tonight is it?


Why won't they get as many votes as others?

Why has sir message not resonated with voters?


Hmm, let me think. Lack of media coverage, right wing media barons with fingers in the pies being pro austerity, despite its massive failure, fledgling grass roots party.
Still, getting enough candidates to be eligible for a PEB isn't bad in a first election.

Now answer my question Why didn't UKIP do very well in their first GE? (and why won't they do well in this one?)


Love this.

You won't admit that the 'anti austerity' thing is crap.

UKIP have won. Both main parties have pledged to 'curb immigration' plus the Tories have committed to referendum.

I am actually now thinking of voting Tory just to piss off people like you and Crystal Balls.

 


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Despite your potshots at UKIP, you must be gutted that you have lost this election.

Therefore, who do you blame?

You've come in your pants there tootsie, if the latest polls are anything to go by...


Final YouGov Nowcast: Con 276, Lab 276, Lib Dem 23, UKIP 1, SNP 51 [Link]

So you are saying that Labour are left wing?

Interesting.

No, that the anti austerity, we hold the balance of power, SNP are in the driving seat.

Excuse me.

Do you think Labour are 'anti austerity'?

More to the point, why hasn't the 'anti austerity' got votes outside of Scotland?


Are you thick?


I ask again. Do you think Labour are anti austerity?

Furthermore, answer the original question. Why have the left failed int his election?


Labour are not anti austerity.
I might answer the second question after the election.
As far as I'm concerned, Labour (lesser of the 2 main party evils) with a left leaning SNP coalition is probably my most favoured of the likely outcomes.


Don't dodge the question.

According to you the 'masses' we're going to rise against austerity.

austerity simply isn't an issue in this election, as far as the voters are concerned.

'Credible' TUSC will lose all their deposits.

The left has lost.

Plus, you hate Labour, why are you potentially celebrating them getting power? Hypocrisy?


UKIP lost their deposits in their first GE.
If you had the intellectual capacity to digest what I wrote, you would have seen that I said labour are the lesser of 2 evils.
If a left wing SNP form part of a UK government, how would the left have lost?

Hypocrite.

You have said previously that Labour betray socialist ideals, yet here you are lauding them as the least worse option.

I therefore ask again, why has the 'anti austerity' movement achieved nothing in this election?

The Greens, Respect and 'credible' TUSC will be nowhere. Why?


Edited by matt_himself (06 May 2015 8.49pm)

Because they won't get as many votes as the other parties. It's not that difficult to comprehend is it?
Why were ukip nowhere in their first election? My word Matthew the old grey matter isn't working for you tonight is it?


Why won't they get as many votes as others?

Why has sir message not resonated with voters?


Hmm, let me think. Lack of media coverage, right wing media barons with fingers in the pies being pro austerity, despite its massive failure, fledgling grass roots party.
Still, getting enough candidates to be eligible for a PEB isn't bad in a first election.

Now answer my question Why didn't UKIP do very well in their first GE? (and why won't they do well in this one?)


Love this.

You won't admit that the 'anti austerity' thing is crap.

UKIP have won. Both main parties have pledged to 'curb immigration' plus the Tories have committed to referendum.

I am actually now thinking of voting Tory just to piss off people like you and Crystal Balls.


1. I don't think the anti austerity thing is crap. I believe it has been used as an ideological weapon to slash public services and serves a few at a cost to the many.
2. You haven't answered my question.
3. 'I'm voting Tory to piss off...' someone on a message board. Sums you up.

 

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Despite your potshots at UKIP, you must be gutted that you have lost this election.

Therefore, who do you blame?

You've come in your pants there tootsie, if the latest polls are anything to go by...


Final YouGov Nowcast: Con 276, Lab 276, Lib Dem 23, UKIP 1, SNP 51 [Link]

So you are saying that Labour are left wing?

Interesting.

No, that the anti austerity, we hold the balance of power, SNP are in the driving seat.

Excuse me.

Do you think Labour are 'anti austerity'?

More to the point, why hasn't the 'anti austerity' got votes outside of Scotland?


Are you thick?


I ask again. Do you think Labour are anti austerity?

Furthermore, answer the original question. Why have the left failed int his election?


Labour are not anti austerity.
I might answer the second question after the election.
As far as I'm concerned, Labour (lesser of the 2 main party evils) with a left leaning SNP coalition is probably my most favoured of the likely outcomes.


Don't dodge the question.

According to you the 'masses' we're going to rise against austerity.

austerity simply isn't an issue in this election, as far as the voters are concerned.

'Credible' TUSC will lose all their deposits.

The left has lost.

Plus, you hate Labour, why are you potentially celebrating them getting power? Hypocrisy?


UKIP lost their deposits in their first GE.
If you had the intellectual capacity to digest what I wrote, you would have seen that I said labour are the lesser of 2 evils.
If a left wing SNP form part of a UK government, how would the left have lost?

Hypocrite.

You have said previously that Labour betray socialist ideals, yet here you are lauding them as the least worse option.

I therefore ask again, why has the 'anti austerity' movement achieved nothing in this election?

The Greens, Respect and 'credible' TUSC will be nowhere. Why?


Edited by matt_himself (06 May 2015 8.49pm)

Because they won't get as many votes as the other parties. It's not that difficult to comprehend is it?
Why were ukip nowhere in their first election? My word Matthew the old grey matter isn't working for you tonight is it?


Why won't they get as many votes as others?

Why has sir message not resonated with voters?


Hmm, let me think. Lack of media coverage, right wing media barons with fingers in the pies being pro austerity, despite its massive failure, fledgling grass roots party.
Still, getting enough candidates to be eligible for a PEB isn't bad in a first election.

Now answer my question Why didn't UKIP do very well in their first GE? (and why won't they do well in this one?)


Love this.

You won't admit that the 'anti austerity' thing is crap.

UKIP have won. Both main parties have pledged to 'curb immigration' plus the Tories have committed to referendum.

I am actually now thinking of voting Tory just to piss off people like you and Crystal Balls.


Spineless Weasel. You just don't want to be associated with their very likely disappointing votes for tomorrow.

Oh, and just to rain your spin. A pledge means nothing. Just words usually to con/sway things for a few 'x' s in their candidates box. And the referendum? Even Nigel knows it will be a very watered down and unacceptable version of what he/you want and there will be no Brexit.

Not voting for UKIP Matthew after all that hot air? What a waste of political debate you are. Something I have suspected for a very long time. Thankyou for proving my instincts correct.

 


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Despite your potshots at UKIP, you must be gutted that you have lost this election.

Therefore, who do you blame?

You've come in your pants there tootsie, if the latest polls are anything to go by...


Final YouGov Nowcast: Con 276, Lab 276, Lib Dem 23, UKIP 1, SNP 51 [Link]

So you are saying that Labour are left wing?

Interesting.

No, that the anti austerity, we hold the balance of power, SNP are in the driving seat.

Excuse me.

Do you think Labour are 'anti austerity'?

More to the point, why hasn't the 'anti austerity' got votes outside of Scotland?


Are you thick?


I ask again. Do you think Labour are anti austerity?

Furthermore, answer the original question. Why have the left failed int his election?


Labour are not anti austerity.
I might answer the second question after the election.
As far as I'm concerned, Labour (lesser of the 2 main party evils) with a left leaning SNP coalition is probably my most favoured of the likely outcomes.


Don't dodge the question.

According to you the 'masses' we're going to rise against austerity.

austerity simply isn't an issue in this election, as far as the voters are concerned.

'Credible' TUSC will lose all their deposits.

The left has lost.

Plus, you hate Labour, why are you potentially celebrating them getting power? Hypocrisy?


UKIP lost their deposits in their first GE.
If you had the intellectual capacity to digest what I wrote, you would have seen that I said labour are the lesser of 2 evils.
If a left wing SNP form part of a UK government, how would the left have lost?

Hypocrite.

You have said previously that Labour betray socialist ideals, yet here you are lauding them as the least worse option.

I therefore ask again, why has the 'anti austerity' movement achieved nothing in this election?

The Greens, Respect and 'credible' TUSC will be nowhere. Why?


Edited by matt_himself (06 May 2015 8.49pm)

Because they won't get as many votes as the other parties. It's not that difficult to comprehend is it?
Why were ukip nowhere in their first election? My word Matthew the old grey matter isn't working for you tonight is it?


Why won't they get as many votes as others?

Why has sir message not resonated with voters?


Hmm, let me think. Lack of media coverage, right wing media barons with fingers in the pies being pro austerity, despite its massive failure, fledgling grass roots party.
Still, getting enough candidates to be eligible for a PEB isn't bad in a first election.

Now answer my question Why didn't UKIP do very well in their first GE? (and why won't they do well in this one?)


Love this.

You won't admit that the 'anti austerity' thing is crap.

UKIP have won. Both main parties have pledged to 'curb immigration' plus the Tories have committed to referendum.

I am actually now thinking of voting Tory just to piss off people like you and Crystal Balls.


1. I don't think the anti austerity thing is crap. I believe it has been used as an ideological weapon to slash public services and serves a few at a cost to the many.
2. You haven't answered my question.
3. 'I'm voting Tory to piss off...' someone on a message board. Sums you up.


Clutching at straws Gusset.

1. It is crap. If it weren't people would support it;
2. It's a s*** question. answer it yourself as it's loaded and you obviously know the answer and want to catch me out;
3. Re read. I said thinks of and people like you and Crystal Balls. There are people like you and him that are pious and honk we should all vote left BECAUSE! Is makes me want mor wot to f*** this lot off by vote Tory. Doesn't mean I will do it. Just makes me think it would be a smack in the face for them.

 


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Despite your potshots at UKIP, you must be gutted that you have lost this election.

Therefore, who do you blame?

You've come in your pants there tootsie, if the latest polls are anything to go by...


Final YouGov Nowcast: Con 276, Lab 276, Lib Dem 23, UKIP 1, SNP 51 [Link]

So you are saying that Labour are left wing?

Interesting.

No, that the anti austerity, we hold the balance of power, SNP are in the driving seat.

Excuse me.

Do you think Labour are 'anti austerity'?

More to the point, why hasn't the 'anti austerity' got votes outside of Scotland?


Are you thick?


I ask again. Do you think Labour are anti austerity?

Furthermore, answer the original question. Why have the left failed int his election?


Labour are not anti austerity.
I might answer the second question after the election.
As far as I'm concerned, Labour (lesser of the 2 main party evils) with a left leaning SNP coalition is probably my most favoured of the likely outcomes.


Don't dodge the question.

According to you the 'masses' we're going to rise against austerity.

austerity simply isn't an issue in this election, as far as the voters are concerned.

'Credible' TUSC will lose all their deposits.

The left has lost.

Plus, you hate Labour, why are you potentially celebrating them getting power? Hypocrisy?


UKIP lost their deposits in their first GE.
If you had the intellectual capacity to digest what I wrote, you would have seen that I said labour are the lesser of 2 evils.
If a left wing SNP form part of a UK government, how would the left have lost?

Hypocrite.

You have said previously that Labour betray socialist ideals, yet here you are lauding them as the least worse option.

I therefore ask again, why has the 'anti austerity' movement achieved nothing in this election?

The Greens, Respect and 'credible' TUSC will be nowhere. Why?


Edited by matt_himself (06 May 2015 8.49pm)

Because they won't get as many votes as the other parties. It's not that difficult to comprehend is it?
Why were ukip nowhere in their first election? My word Matthew the old grey matter isn't working for you tonight is it?


Why won't they get as many votes as others?

Why has sir message not resonated with voters?


Hmm, let me think. Lack of media coverage, right wing media barons with fingers in the pies being pro austerity, despite its massive failure, fledgling grass roots party.
Still, getting enough candidates to be eligible for a PEB isn't bad in a first election.

Now answer my question Why didn't UKIP do very well in their first GE? (and why won't they do well in this one?)


Love this.

You won't admit that the 'anti austerity' thing is crap.

UKIP have won. Both main parties have pledged to 'curb immigration' plus the Tories have committed to referendum.

I am actually now thinking of voting Tory just to piss off people like you and Crystal Balls.


1. I don't think the anti austerity thing is crap. I believe it has been used as an ideological weapon to slash public services and serves a few at a cost to the many.
2. You haven't answered my question.
3. 'I'm voting Tory to piss off...' someone on a message board. Sums you up.


Clutching at straws Gusset.

1. It is crap. If it weren't people would support it;
2. It's a s*** question. answer it yourself as it's loaded and you obviously know the answer and want to catch me out;
3. Re read. I said thinks of and people like you and Crystal Balls. There are people like you and him that are pious and honk we should all vote left BECAUSE! Is makes me want mor wot to f*** this lot off by vote Tory. Doesn't mean I will do it. Just makes me think it would be a smack in the face for them.


Bum gravy. You are obviously incapable of reading or watching beyond mainstream media. Oh and Guido

 

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Why is it when you discuss politics and peoples view's on it, most people, like on this thread - turn into complete and utter c***s?


I wouldn't say c***s - I'd stick with children. It's a hugely pitiful and embarrassing thread that designed not to spark debate but cause playground antagonism. One things for sure, whatever the outcome in the polls, this place is going to be unbearable for a while. I fuking hate politics.

 


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Despite your potshots at UKIP, you must be gutted that you have lost this election.

Therefore, who do you blame?

I blame Ukip. They promised up to 40 MPs and were expected to split the far right vote. However despite the Tory election campaign being pretty poor they look as if they will be lucky to get a handful of MPs, possibly only one.

Couldn't care less.

Both the major parties have adopted UKIP policies to get votes.

That is success.


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Is the truth, whether you like it or not. Democracy at work.

 


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TheJudge Flag 07 May 15 10.08am

The election run up has been a sham.
When we have a new government .it will be business as usual.
In my constituency the Tories were streets ahead in the ;last election so I have voted Tory.
I would urge people to vote Tory or UKIP but at least try and insure that we keep Labour out.
The thought of another Labour government lead by that plasticine character Milliband makes moving abroad look very appealing.

 

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Despite your potshots at UKIP, you must be gutted that you have lost this election.

Therefore, who do you blame?

I blame Ukip. They promised up to 40 MPs and were expected to split the far right vote. However despite the Tory election campaign being pretty poor they look as if they will be lucky to get a handful of MPs, possibly only one.

Couldn't care less.

Both the major parties have adopted UKIP policies to get votes.

That is success.


Edited by matt_himself (06 May 2015 7.58pm)


Is the truth, whether you like it or not. Democracy at work.


I wish it were - as it stands, UKIP look likely to get 15% of the vote, Greens 5%, yet the Greens will get one voice in parliament (probably) and UKIP maybe 3 at a real push - democracy? Constituencies are, as far as I can tell, totally pointless.

 

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Despite your potshots at UKIP, you must be gutted that you have lost this election.

Therefore, who do you blame?

I blame Ukip. They promised up to 40 MPs and were expected to split the far right vote. However despite the Tory election campaign being pretty poor they look as if they will be lucky to get a handful of MPs, possibly only one.

Couldn't care less.

Both the major parties have adopted UKIP policies to get votes.

That is success.


Edited by matt_himself (06 May 2015 7.58pm)


Is the truth, whether you like it or not. Democracy at work.


I wish it were - as it stands, UKIP look likely to get 15% of the vote, Greens 5%, yet the Greens will get one voice in parliament (probably) and UKIP maybe 3 at a real push - democracy? Constituencies are, as far as I can tell, totally pointless.


Yes but those fringe parties have pushed their issues onto the main parties. UKIP wanted a referendum and now they've essentially made the Conservatives promise one. That is democracy at work, since it's likely that the Tories will be the largest party. So from no party promising it, a party with in all likelihood 280 seats is promising it. That is democracy.

FPTP has its faults but I think it's more likely to produce stable government than PR. People saying "well it works in Europe"... Has it really? Last time I checked Europe was in the sh*t

 


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Despite your potshots at UKIP, you must be gutted that you have lost this election.

Therefore, who do you blame?

I blame Ukip. They promised up to 40 MPs and were expected to split the far right vote. However despite the Tory election campaign being pretty poor they look as if they will be lucky to get a handful of MPs, possibly only one.

Couldn't care less.

Both the major parties have adopted UKIP policies to get votes.

That is success.


Edited by matt_himself (06 May 2015 7.58pm)


Is the truth, whether you like it or not. Democracy at work.


I wish it were - as it stands, UKIP look likely to get 15% of the vote, Greens 5%, yet the Greens will get one voice in parliament (probably) and UKIP maybe 3 at a real push - democracy? Constituencies are, as far as I can tell, totally pointless.


Yes but those fringe parties have pushed their issues onto the main parties. UKIP wanted a referendum and now they've essentially made the Conservatives promise one. That is democracy at work, since it's likely that the Tories will be the largest party. So from no party promising it, a party with in all likelihood 280 seats is promising it. That is democracy.

FPTP has its faults but I think it's more likely to produce stable government than PR. People saying "well it works in Europe"... Has it really? Last time I checked Europe was in the sh*t


I think that argument was fair enough when we produced strong majority governements, but now we have hung ones it seems less of a case (as the government is a mass of dodgy deals anyway)

 

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Love this.

You won't admit that the 'anti austerity' thing is crap.

UKIP have won. Both main parties have pledged to 'curb immigration' plus the Tories have committed to referendum.

I am actually now thinking of voting Tory just to piss off people like you and Crystal Balls.

Interesting proposition, when you consider that the Anarchists were demanding such radical ideas as equal rights in law, gay, racial and womens rights, unions, workers rights, minimum wage, freedom of speech, access to education for all, regulation of authority power etc.

We're all anarchists....


 


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