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OldFella London 08 May 15 11.48pm
Quote derben at 08 May 2015 10.48pm the electorate have decided, why don't you shut up now and stop posting your tedious propaganda links. Edited by derben (08 May 2015 10.58pm) Well said that man. The people have spoken, pretty resoundingly, and the Conservatives have prevailed despite the boundary bias faced by them. Take a look at the local election results also - it seems Labour isn't trusted to run a bath. You'll have to find somewhere else to build your lefty utopia, chaps, because it is pretty obviously not wanted here. Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..
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London 08 May 15 11.48pm

Quote derben at 08 May 2015 10.48pm

the electorate have decided, why don't you shut up now and stop posting your tedious propaganda links.

Edited by derben (08 May 2015 10.58pm)

Well said that man. The people have spoken, pretty resoundingly, and the Conservatives have prevailed despite the boundary bias faced by them.

Take a look at the local election results also - it seems Labour isn't trusted to run a bath.

You'll have to find somewhere else to build your lefty utopia, chaps, because it is pretty obviously not wanted here.

Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..

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humber eagle hull 08 May 15 11.51pm
We voted , they won, get over it. Pretty happy with the overall result to be honest. Thats after 23 years in the forces and 7 years as a lecturer, nothing to complain about as I get to keep the hard earned money I've worked my bollocks off for. If you don't like it and feel you're hard done by because your benefits are being cut or your going to have to work harder....welcome to the life most of us have to endure.In my opinion that is. In my day, a Selfie was what you had when the wife didn't put out.
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humber eagle

hull 08 May 15 11.51pm

We voted , they won, get over it. Pretty happy with the overall result to be honest. Thats after 23 years in the forces and 7 years as a lecturer, nothing to complain about as I get to keep the hard earned money I've worked my bollocks off for.
If you don't like it and feel you're hard done by because your benefits are being cut or your going to have to work harder....welcome to the life most of us have to endure.In my opinion that is.

In my day, a Selfie was what you had when the wife didn't put out.

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 08 May 15 11.52pm
Quote legaleagle at 08 May 2015 11.38pm Sure.But,its an interesting article.An opinion,yes. So,sometimes a link on its own can be valid.One loads on here might not agree with.But a valid issue.Its not just based on today's outcome.The Tories are committed to abolishing/amending the Act. Their own last Attorney General criticised them strongly for this.So,being against it is hardly just a tedious "out there" "nutty lefty" opinion.Now they have a majority they are likely to do so,not least because its a way of appeasing some segments of anti-EU/little englander sentiment,even though the Act and the Convention are actually nothing to do with the EU. If they get rid of the Human Rights Act/European Convention on Human Rights,what will they replace it with? There's loads in the press about the Act,but its almost all about a tiny part of what the Act actually relates to. The Act sets out the fundamental rights and freedoms that individuals in the UK have access to. They include: Right to life Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment Right to liberty and security Freedom from slavery and forced labour Right to a fair trial No punishment without law Respect for your private and family life, home and correspondence Freedom of thought, belief and religion Freedom of expression Freedom of assembly and association Right to marry and start a family Protection from discrimination in respect of these rights and freedoms Right to peaceful enjoyment of your property Right to education Right to participate in free elections So,its hardly naff to raise the issue for debate... Edited by legaleagle (08 May 2015 11.45pm) I don't think any right minded person would object to the things you've stated. My beef is when people blatantly abuse it, Like Rapists/Murderers not being deported because they are entitled to 'Family life" they are alcoholics, Gay,and other such bulls***.... Pro USA & Israel
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Quote legaleagle at 08 May 2015 11.38pm

Sure.But,its an interesting article.An opinion,yes. So,sometimes a link on its own can be valid.One loads on here might not agree with.But a valid issue.Its not just based on today's outcome.The Tories are committed to abolishing/amending the Act. Their own last Attorney General criticised them strongly for this.So,being against it is hardly just a tedious "out there" "nutty lefty" opinion.Now they have a majority they are likely to do so,not least because its a way of appeasing some segments of anti-EU/little englander sentiment,even though the Act and the Convention are actually nothing to do with the EU.

If they get rid of the Human Rights Act/European Convention on Human Rights,what will they replace it with?

There's loads in the press about the Act,but its almost all about a tiny part of what the Act actually relates to.

The Act sets out the fundamental rights and freedoms that individuals in the UK have access to. They include:

Right to life
Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment
Right to liberty and security
Freedom from slavery and forced labour
Right to a fair trial
No punishment without law
Respect for your private and family life, home and correspondence
Freedom of thought, belief and religion
Freedom of expression
Freedom of assembly and association
Right to marry and start a family
Protection from discrimination in respect of these rights and freedoms
Right to peaceful enjoyment of your property
Right to education
Right to participate in free elections

So,its hardly naff to raise the issue for debate...

Edited by legaleagle (08 May 2015 11.45pm)

I don't think any right minded person would object to the things you've stated. My beef is when people blatantly abuse it, Like Rapists/Murderers not being deported because they are entitled to 'Family life" they are alcoholics, Gay,and other such bulls***....

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 08 May 15 11.55pm
[Link] Just for starters & there's dozens more !111 Pro USA & Israel
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Just for starters & there's dozens more !111

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legaleagle 08 May 15 11.58pm
The golden dawn gathers steam.Any criticism of the new "democratic" order is attributed to being a proponent of promoting a lefty socialist utopia.Kind of how McCarthyism started off in a way... Of course the electorate has spoken.But who's saying they haven't? Your comments are as valid as suggesting Tories should have stopped expressing a view as soon as the 1945 or 1997 election results came in...and I'll wager you didn't (perfectly reasonably) stop expressing your views after election day in May 1997 Its a pendulum,Sooner or later it swings the other way,especially after another £12 billion of cuts begin to bite...
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08 May 15 11.58pm

The golden dawn gathers steam.Any criticism of the new "democratic" order is attributed to being a proponent of promoting a lefty socialist utopia.Kind of how McCarthyism started off in a way...

Of course the electorate has spoken.But who's saying they haven't?

Your comments are as valid as suggesting Tories should have stopped expressing a view as soon as the 1945 or 1997 election results came in...and I'll wager you didn't (perfectly reasonably) stop expressing your views after election day in May 1997

Its a pendulum,Sooner or later it swings the other way,especially after another £12 billion of cuts begin to bite...

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legaleagle 08 May 15 11.59pm
Quote OldFella at 08 May 2015 11.48pm Quote derben at 08 May 2015 10.48pm the electorate have decided, why don't you shut up now and stop posting your tedious propaganda links. Edited by derben (08 May 2015 10.58pm) Well said that man. The people have spoken, pretty resoundingly, and the Conservatives have prevailed despite the boundary bias faced by them. Take a look at the local election results also - it seems Labour isn't trusted to run a bath. You'll have to find somewhere else to build your lefty utopia, chaps, because it is pretty obviously not wanted here. The golden dawn gathers steam.Any criticism of the new "democratic" order is attributed to being a proponent of promoting a lefty socialist utopia.Kind of how McCarthyism started off in a way... Of course the electorate has spoken.But who's saying they haven't? Your comments are as valid as suggesting Tories should have stopped expressing a view as soon as the 1945 or 1997 election results came in...and I'll wager you didn't (perfectly reasonably) stop expressing your views after election day in May 1997 Its a pendulum,Sooner or later it swings the other way,especially after another £12 billion of cuts begin to bite...
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08 May 15 11.59pm

Quote OldFella at 08 May 2015 11.48pm

Quote derben at 08 May 2015 10.48pm

the electorate have decided, why don't you shut up now and stop posting your tedious propaganda links.

Edited by derben (08 May 2015 10.58pm)

Well said that man. The people have spoken, pretty resoundingly, and the Conservatives have prevailed despite the boundary bias faced by them.

Take a look at the local election results also - it seems Labour isn't trusted to run a bath.

You'll have to find somewhere else to build your lefty utopia, chaps, because it is pretty obviously not wanted here.

The golden dawn gathers steam.Any criticism of the new "democratic" order is attributed to being a proponent of promoting a lefty socialist utopia.Kind of how McCarthyism started off in a way...

Of course the electorate has spoken.But who's saying they haven't?

Its a pendulum,Sooner or later it swings the other way,especially after another £12 billion of cuts begin to bite...

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humber eagle hull 09 May 15 12.01am
Quote Jimenez at 08 May 2015 11.52pm Quote legaleagle at 08 May 2015 11.38pm Sure.But,its an interesting article.An opinion,yes. So,sometimes a link on its own can be valid.One loads on here might not agree with.But a valid issue.Its not just based on today's outcome.The Tories are committed to abolishing/amending the Act. Their own last Attorney General criticised them strongly for this.So,being against it is hardly just a tedious "out there" "nutty lefty" opinion.Now they have a majority they are likely to do so,not least because its a way of appeasing some segments of anti-EU/little englander sentiment,even though the Act and the Convention are actually nothing to do with the EU. If they get rid of the Human Rights Act/European Convention on Human Rights,what will they replace it with? There's loads in the press about the Act,but its almost all about a tiny part of what the Act actually relates to. The Act sets out the fundamental rights and freedoms that individuals in the UK have access to. They include: Right to life Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment Right to liberty and security Freedom from slavery and forced labour Right to a fair trial No punishment without law Respect for your private and family life, home and correspondence Freedom of thought, belief and religion Freedom of expression Freedom of assembly and association Right to marry and start a family Protection from discrimination in respect of these rights and freedoms Right to peaceful enjoyment of your property Right to education Right to participate in free elections So,its hardly naff to raise the issue for debate... Edited by legaleagle (08 May 2015 11.45pm) I don't think any right minded person would object to the things you've stated. My beef is when people blatantly abuse it, Like Rapists/Murderers not being deported because they are entitled to 'Family life" they are alcoholics, Gay,and other such bulls***.... Surely any changes to protect the country and its citizens can only be a positive. They can only amend the Human Rights Act, as it belongs to the UK, however the UNHDR cannot be amended by anyone, which is the foundations to how we would like to think our great country is being run. Our rapists, murderers, child molesters etc. will finally be given a sentence that cannot be interfered with by those tossers in Europe or those who believe the culprits have issues and need counselling. In my day, a Selfie was what you had when the wife didn't put out.
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hull 09 May 15 12.01am

Quote Jimenez at 08 May 2015 11.52pm

Quote legaleagle at 08 May 2015 11.38pm

If they get rid of the Human Rights Act/European Convention on Human Rights,what will they replace it with?

There's loads in the press about the Act,but its almost all about a tiny part of what the Act actually relates to.

The Act sets out the fundamental rights and freedoms that individuals in the UK have access to. They include:

So,its hardly naff to raise the issue for debate...

Edited by legaleagle (08 May 2015 11.45pm)

Surely any changes to protect the country and its citizens can only be a positive. They can only amend the Human Rights Act, as it belongs to the UK, however the UNHDR cannot be amended by anyone, which is the foundations to how we would like to think our great country is being run. Our rapists, murderers, child molesters etc. will finally be given a sentence that cannot be interfered with by those tossers in Europe or those who believe the culprits have issues and need counselling.

In my day, a Selfie was what you had when the wife didn't put out.

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legaleagle 09 May 15 12.02am
Quote Jimenez at 08 May 2015 11.52pm Quote legaleagle at 08 May 2015 11.38pm Sure.But,its an interesting article.An opinion,yes. So,sometimes a link on its own can be valid.One loads on here might not agree with.But a valid issue.Its not just based on today's outcome.The Tories are committed to abolishing/amending the Act. Their own last Attorney General criticised them strongly for this.So,being against it is hardly just a tedious "out there" "nutty lefty" opinion.Now they have a majority they are likely to do so,not least because its a way of appeasing some segments of anti-EU/little englander sentiment,even though the Act and the Convention are actually nothing to do with the EU. If they get rid of the Human Rights Act/European Convention on Human Rights,what will they replace it with? There's loads in the press about the Act,but its almost all about a tiny part of what the Act actually relates to. The Act sets out the fundamental rights and freedoms that individuals in the UK have access to. They include: Right to life Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment Right to liberty and security Freedom from slavery and forced labour Right to a fair trial No punishment without law Respect for your private and family life, home and correspondence Freedom of thought, belief and religion Freedom of expression Freedom of assembly and association Right to marry and start a family Protection from discrimination in respect of these rights and freedoms Right to peaceful enjoyment of your property Right to education Right to participate in free elections So,its hardly naff to raise the issue for debate... Edited by legaleagle (08 May 2015 11.45pm) I don't think any right minded person would object to the things you've stated. My beef is when people blatantly abuse it, Like Rapists/Murderers not being deported because they are entitled to 'Family life" they are alcoholics, Gay,and other such bulls***.... The problem is that anything will always have some abuse.So,as a lawyer,I see clever people representing themselves "playing the system" to get out of something.But,the reason why they can is because of certain safeguards built into the system to protect many more others from abuse...
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legaleagle

09 May 15 12.02am

Quote Jimenez at 08 May 2015 11.52pm

Quote legaleagle at 08 May 2015 11.38pm

If they get rid of the Human Rights Act/European Convention on Human Rights,what will they replace it with?

There's loads in the press about the Act,but its almost all about a tiny part of what the Act actually relates to.

The Act sets out the fundamental rights and freedoms that individuals in the UK have access to. They include:

So,its hardly naff to raise the issue for debate...

Edited by legaleagle (08 May 2015 11.45pm)

The problem is that anything will always have some abuse.So,as a lawyer,I see clever people representing themselves "playing the system" to get out of something.But,the reason why they can is because of certain safeguards built into the system to protect many more others from abuse...

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imbored UK 09 May 15 12.02am
Quote humber eagle at 08 May 2015 11.51pm We voted , they won, get over it. Pretty happy with the overall result to be honest. Thats after 23 years in the forces and 7 years as a lecturer, nothing to complain about as I get to keep the hard earned money I've worked my bollocks off for. If you don't like it and feel you're hard done by because your benefits are being cut or your going to have to work harder....welcome to the life most of us have to endure.In my opinion that is. A bit of a cliche of both parties and supporters of. Edited by imbored (09 May 2015 12.02am)
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UK 09 May 15 12.02am

Quote humber eagle at 08 May 2015 11.51pm

A bit of a cliche of both parties and supporters of.

Edited by imbored (09 May 2015 12.02am)

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legaleagle 09 May 15 12.07am
Quote humber eagle at 09 May 2015 12.01am I don't think any right minded person would object to the things you've stated. My beef is when people blatantly abuse it, Like Rapists/Murderers not being deported because they are entitled to 'Family life" they are alcoholics, Gay,and other such bulls*.... Surely any changes to protect the country and its citizens can only be a positive. They can only amend the Human Rights Act, as it belongs to the UK, however the UNHDR cannot be amended by anyone, which is the foundations to how we would like to think our great country is being run**. Our rapists, murderers, child molesters etc. will finally be given a sentence that cannot be interfered with by those tossers in Europe or those who believe the culprits have issues and need counselling. .................................................... They are threatening to derogate from the Convention,of which we were a founder signatory,and of which Winston Churchill was a great proponent.That will send a great message to European dictatorships like Belarus... Edited by legaleagle (09 May 2015 12.14am)
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09 May 15 12.07am

Quote humber eagle at 09 May 2015 12.01am

Surely any changes to protect the country and its citizens can only be a positive. They can only amend the Human Rights Act, as it belongs to the UK, however the UNHDR cannot be amended by anyone, which is the foundations to how we would like to think our great country is being run. Our rapists, murderers, child molesters etc. will finally be given a sentence that cannot be interfered with by those tossers in Europe or those who believe the culprits have issues and need counselling.

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They are threatening to derogate from the Convention,of which we were a founder signatory,and of which Winston Churchill was a great proponent.That will send a great message to European dictatorships like Belarus...

Edited by legaleagle (09 May 2015 12.14am)

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 09 May 15 12.07am
Quote legaleagle at 09 May 2015 12.02am Quote Jimenez at 08 May 2015 11.52pm Quote legaleagle at 08 May 2015 11.38pm Sure.But,its an interesting article.An opinion,yes. So,sometimes a link on its own can be valid.One loads on here might not agree with.But a valid issue.Its not just based on today's outcome.The Tories are committed to abolishing/amending the Act. Their own last Attorney General criticised them strongly for this.So,being against it is hardly just a tedious "out there" "nutty lefty" opinion.Now they have a majority they are likely to do so,not least because its a way of appeasing some segments of anti-EU/little englander sentiment,even though the Act and the Convention are actually nothing to do with the EU. If they get rid of the Human Rights Act/European Convention on Human Rights,what will they replace it with? There's loads in the press about the Act,but its almost all about a tiny part of what the Act actually relates to. The Act sets out the fundamental rights and freedoms that individuals in the UK have access to. They include: Right to life Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment Right to liberty and security Freedom from slavery and forced labour Right to a fair trial No punishment without law Respect for your private and family life, home and correspondence Freedom of thought, belief and religion Freedom of expression Freedom of assembly and association Right to marry and start a family Protection from discrimination in respect of these rights and freedoms Right to peaceful enjoyment of your property Right to education Right to participate in free elections So,its hardly naff to raise the issue for debate... Edited by legaleagle (08 May 2015 11.45pm) I don't think any right minded person would object to the things you've stated. My beef is when people blatantly abuse it, Like Rapists/Murderers not being deported because they are entitled to 'Family life" they are alcoholics, Gay,and other such bulls***.... The problem is that anything will always have some abuse.So,as a lawyer,I see clever people representing themselves "playing the system" to get out of something.But,the reason why they can is because of certain safeguards built into the system to protect many more others from abuse... .....Ah now that's what I call a cop out. Surely its not beyond the powers to be to draft say 'A British Bill of rights' to counter and indeed replace the Human Rights Act? Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 09 May 15 12.07am

Quote legaleagle at 09 May 2015 12.02am

Quote Jimenez at 08 May 2015 11.52pm

Quote legaleagle at 08 May 2015 11.38pm

If they get rid of the Human Rights Act/European Convention on Human Rights,what will they replace it with?

There's loads in the press about the Act,but its almost all about a tiny part of what the Act actually relates to.

The Act sets out the fundamental rights and freedoms that individuals in the UK have access to. They include:

So,its hardly naff to raise the issue for debate...

Edited by legaleagle (08 May 2015 11.45pm)

.....Ah now that's what I call a cop out. Surely its not beyond the powers to be to draft say 'A British Bill of rights' to counter and indeed replace the Human Rights Act?

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humber eagle hull 09 May 15 12.08am
Quote Jimenez at 08 May 2015 11.55pm [Link] Just for starters & there's dozens more !111 Human Rights pah!!!! Good Friday agreement......one of Labours proudest moments.....lets release 100's of murderers who threatened our country and service men and women and citizens for decades, David C would have to welcome ISIS with open arms to beat that debacle. In my day, a Selfie was what you had when the wife didn't put out.
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hull 09 May 15 12.08am

Quote Jimenez at 08 May 2015 11.55pm

[Link]

Just for starters & there's dozens more !111

Human Rights pah!!!!
Good Friday agreement......one of Labours proudest moments.....lets release 100's of murderers who threatened our country and service men and women and citizens for decades, David C would have to welcome ISIS with open arms to beat that debacle.

In my day, a Selfie was what you had when the wife didn't put out.

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