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 Kermit8  Hevon 19 May 15 5.09pm |
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Carlsberg would still be a rip off at 18p a pint Stella would be at 1.8p.
It's horrible, vile stuff. If I was offered a beer and that arrived, I'd apologise and say no thanks.
Carlsberg EXPORT - made in the fvcking Midlands
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palace777  belfast 19 May 15 5.27pm |
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Quote Pawson Palace at 19 May 2015 2.55pm
LOL the previous year the gaff got ripped up so you can't blame them. It's the landlord's discretion IMO. However, considering the Irish bakery just got busted for refusing to make a gay cake it shows that one cannot exclude anybody based on their make up.
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TheJudge  19 May 15 5.32pm |
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Surely a landlord has the right to ban anyone he likes. He can make up any excuse he wants. People don't discriminate against travelers because of their race. Not that they have a definitive one.
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| derben 19 May 15 7.11pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 May 2015 3.02pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 19 May 2015 2.55pm
LOL the previous year the gaff got ripped up so you can't blame them. It's the landlord's discretion IMO. However, considering the Irish bakery just got busted for refusing to make a gay cake it shows that one cannot exclude anybody based on their make up. Commercial law, a business must provide services in line with UK law on discrimination. You can't refuse paid services or goods to people on the basis of race, gender, religion or sexual orientation. Quite right too. The Irish Bakery didn't just get busted, they lost their appeal, again.
It is highly amusing that the courts uphold someone's right to call for gay marriage, a concept not recognised or legal in Northern Ireland. The bakery owners are prosecuted, not for denying a service on the basis of sexual orientation, but on the grounds that they did not want to promote an illegal concept. Does this 'judgement' mean that bakeries must allow any message on a cake, 'legalise pedophilia' for example, or 'blow up Stormont'?
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 20 May 15 9.24am |
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Quote TheJudge at 19 May 2015 5.32pm
Surely a landlord has the right to ban anyone he likes. He can make up any excuse he wants. People don't discriminate against travelers because of their race. Not that they have a definitive one. Yes, but if he says 'we don't serve gypsies in here' then he's in trouble.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 20 May 15 9.30am |
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Quote derben at 19 May 2015 7.11pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 May 2015 3.02pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 19 May 2015 2.55pm
LOL the previous year the gaff got ripped up so you can't blame them. It's the landlord's discretion IMO. However, considering the Irish bakery just got busted for refusing to make a gay cake it shows that one cannot exclude anybody based on their make up. Commercial law, a business must provide services in line with UK law on discrimination. You can't refuse paid services or goods to people on the basis of race, gender, religion or sexual orientation. Quite right too. The Irish Bakery didn't just get busted, they lost their appeal, again.
It is highly amusing that the courts uphold someone's right to call for gay marriage, a concept not recognised or legal in Northern Ireland. The bakery owners are prosecuted, not for denying a service on the basis of sexual orientation, but on the grounds that they did not want to promote an illegal concept. Does this 'judgement' mean that bakeries must allow any message on a cake, 'legalise pedophilia' for example, or 'blow up Stormont'? Its not an illegal concept. Gay marriage isn't permitted in NI, but its not illegal either (if you are married elsewhere, and return to NI you are still married). They're also in violation of laws regarding commercial practice, which take priority in the governance of businesses. NI also permits the Same Sex Partnership under the civil union laws. The gay marriage acts are to ratify certain rights that could be technically excluded under civil unions due to wording in contracts such as pensions. The claim is civil, not criminal.
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| palace777 belfast 20 May 15 9.38am |
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Quote derben at 19 May 2015 7.11pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 May 2015 3.02pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 19 May 2015 2.55pm
LOL the previous year the gaff got ripped up so you can't blame them. It's the landlord's discretion IMO. However, considering the Irish bakery just got busted for refusing to make a gay cake it shows that one cannot exclude anybody based on their make up. Commercial law, a business must provide services in line with UK law on discrimination. You can't refuse paid services or goods to people on the basis of race, gender, religion or sexual orientation. Quite right too. The Irish Bakery didn't just get busted, they lost their appeal, again.
It is highly amusing that the courts uphold someone's right to call for gay marriage, a concept not recognised or legal in Northern Ireland. The bakery owners are prosecuted, not for denying a service on the basis of sexual orientation, but on the grounds that they did not want to promote an illegal concept. Does this 'judgement' mean that bakeries must allow any message on a cake, 'legalise pedophilia' for example, or 'blow up Stormont'? just for your info.gay marriage is legal in N,Ireland and was before anywere else in the U.K!!
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| palace777 belfast 20 May 15 9.58am |
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just for your info.gay marriage is legal in N,Ireland and was before anywere else in the U.K!! Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 May 2015 9.30am
Quote derben at 19 May 2015 7.11pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 May 2015 3.02pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 19 May 2015 2.55pm
LOL the previous year the gaff got ripped up so you can't blame them. It's the landlord's discretion IMO. However, considering the Irish bakery just got busted for refusing to make a gay cake it shows that one cannot exclude anybody based on their make up. Commercial law, a business must provide services in line with UK law on discrimination. You can't refuse paid services or goods to people on the basis of race, gender, religion or sexual orientation. Quite right too. The Irish Bakery didn't just get busted, they lost their appeal, again.
It is highly amusing that the courts uphold someone's right to call for gay marriage, a concept not recognised or legal in Northern Ireland. The bakery owners are prosecuted, not for denying a service on the basis of sexual orientation, but on the grounds that they did not want to promote an illegal concept. Does this 'judgement' mean that bakeries must allow any message on a cake, 'legalise pedophilia' for example, or 'blow up Stormont'? Its not an illegal concept. Gay marriage isn't permitted in NI, but its not illegal either (if you are married elsewhere, and return to NI you are still married). They're also in violation of laws regarding commercial practice, which take priority in the governance of businesses. NI also permits the Same Sex Partnership under the civil union laws. The gay marriage acts are to ratify certain rights that could be technically excluded under civil unions due to wording in contracts such as pensions. The claim is civil, not criminal. just for your info.gay marriage is legal in N,Ireland and was before anywere else in the U.K!!
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| npn Crowborough 20 May 15 9.58am |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 May 2015 9.30am
Quote derben at 19 May 2015 7.11pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 May 2015 3.02pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 19 May 2015 2.55pm
LOL the previous year the gaff got ripped up so you can't blame them. It's the landlord's discretion IMO. However, considering the Irish bakery just got busted for refusing to make a gay cake it shows that one cannot exclude anybody based on their make up. Commercial law, a business must provide services in line with UK law on discrimination. You can't refuse paid services or goods to people on the basis of race, gender, religion or sexual orientation. Quite right too. The Irish Bakery didn't just get busted, they lost their appeal, again.
It is highly amusing that the courts uphold someone's right to call for gay marriage, a concept not recognised or legal in Northern Ireland. The bakery owners are prosecuted, not for denying a service on the basis of sexual orientation, but on the grounds that they did not want to promote an illegal concept. Does this 'judgement' mean that bakeries must allow any message on a cake, 'legalise pedophilia' for example, or 'blow up Stormont'? Its not an illegal concept. Gay marriage isn't permitted in NI, but its not illegal either (if you are married elsewhere, and return to NI you are still married). They're also in violation of laws regarding commercial practice, which take priority in the governance of businesses. NI also permits the Same Sex Partnership under the civil union laws. The gay marriage acts are to ratify certain rights that could be technically excluded under civil unions due to wording in contracts such as pensions. The claim is civil, not criminal.
A petty example, but would you feel OK about refusing to bake a cake with "Brighton forever" on it? A less petty example, if you were a muslim baker, would you feel obliged to produce a cake with the image of the prophet on it? It's not illegal, but something you personally feel flies in the face of your religious beliefs
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 20 May 15 10.06am |
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If I was following the England football team abroad and saw a sign on a bar which said "We don't serve England supporters in here", personally I wouldn't be offended and would assume that the owner took such a stance merely to protect his property and not out of any hatred towards the English.
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| derben 20 May 15 10.07am |
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Quote palace777 at 20 May 2015 9.58am
just for your info.gay marriage is legal in N,Ireland and was before anywere else in the U.K!! Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 May 2015 9.30am
Quote derben at 19 May 2015 7.11pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 May 2015 3.02pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 19 May 2015 2.55pm
LOL the previous year the gaff got ripped up so you can't blame them. It's the landlord's discretion IMO. However, considering the Irish bakery just got busted for refusing to make a gay cake it shows that one cannot exclude anybody based on their make up. Commercial law, a business must provide services in line with UK law on discrimination. You can't refuse paid services or goods to people on the basis of race, gender, religion or sexual orientation. Quite right too. The Irish Bakery didn't just get busted, they lost their appeal, again.
It is highly amusing that the courts uphold someone's right to call for gay marriage, a concept not recognised or legal in Northern Ireland. The bakery owners are prosecuted, not for denying a service on the basis of sexual orientation, but on the grounds that they did not want to promote an illegal concept. Does this 'judgement' mean that bakeries must allow any message on a cake, 'legalise pedophilia' for example, or 'blow up Stormont'? Its not an illegal concept. Gay marriage isn't permitted in NI, but its not illegal either (if you are married elsewhere, and return to NI you are still married). They're also in violation of laws regarding commercial practice, which take priority in the governance of businesses. NI also permits the Same Sex Partnership under the civil union laws. The gay marriage acts are to ratify certain rights that could be technically excluded under civil unions due to wording in contracts such as pensions. The claim is civil, not criminal. just for your info.gay marriage is legal in N,Ireland and was before anywere else in the U.K!! Just for your info. same-sex 'marriage' is a devolved issue and Northern Ireland does not permit it. Same-sex marriages from other jurisdictions are treated as civil partnerships. The Northern Ireland Executive has stated that it does not intend to introduce legislation allowing for same-sex marriage in Northern Ireland
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 20 May 15 10.23am |
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Quote npn at 20 May 2015 9.58am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 May 2015 9.30am
Quote derben at 19 May 2015 7.11pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 May 2015 3.02pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 19 May 2015 2.55pm
LOL the previous year the gaff got ripped up so you can't blame them. It's the landlord's discretion IMO. However, considering the Irish bakery just got busted for refusing to make a gay cake it shows that one cannot exclude anybody based on their make up. Commercial law, a business must provide services in line with UK law on discrimination. You can't refuse paid services or goods to people on the basis of race, gender, religion or sexual orientation. Quite right too. The Irish Bakery didn't just get busted, they lost their appeal, again.
It is highly amusing that the courts uphold someone's right to call for gay marriage, a concept not recognised or legal in Northern Ireland. The bakery owners are prosecuted, not for denying a service on the basis of sexual orientation, but on the grounds that they did not want to promote an illegal concept. Does this 'judgement' mean that bakeries must allow any message on a cake, 'legalise pedophilia' for example, or 'blow up Stormont'? Its not an illegal concept. Gay marriage isn't permitted in NI, but its not illegal either (if you are married elsewhere, and return to NI you are still married). They're also in violation of laws regarding commercial practice, which take priority in the governance of businesses. NI also permits the Same Sex Partnership under the civil union laws. The gay marriage acts are to ratify certain rights that could be technically excluded under civil unions due to wording in contracts such as pensions. The claim is civil, not criminal.
A petty example, but would you feel OK about refusing to bake a cake with "Brighton forever" on it? A less petty example, if you were a muslim baker, would you feel obliged to produce a cake with the image of the prophet on it? It's not illegal, but something you personally feel flies in the face of your religious beliefs Then they probably shouldn't have accepted the order. Your personal or religious beliefs however do not trump Commercial Laws and Business law in the UK, which requires fair service to citizens from all businesses (and fairness of service includes to all groups identified in the equal opportunities act). You could refuse to promote political promotions, but in doing so you must be consistent, non-discriminatory and upfront. A business is not the sole authority of its owners, it has obligations to state and the public.
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