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View johnfirewall's Profile johnfirewall Flag 25 Aug 15 4.17pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

I'm sure I read someone on here state that everything generally goes in to a shared pot so as to benefit the entire staff including the manager, regardless of whether it's cash to the waiter or service charge on your card but presumably that was just in some socialist utopia.

I see the row carries on from Cote being exposed (same people as Bill's) and now everyone seems to be at it.

I'm glad now people might not be made to feel tight by withholding the 12.5% on the premise that they'd be fcuking the chef over in doing so. Looks like you've inadvertently been shorting the waitress instead.

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View richard shaw (og)65's Profile richard shaw (og)65 Flag my minds eye 25 Aug 15 4.26pm Send a Private Message to richard shaw (og)65 Add richard shaw (og)65 as a friend

this is a bugbear of mine . they are putting a service charge on the bill which is discretionary and this goes not as a tip but pays the wages . since I realised this after the independent did a big campaign on this a good few years ago , I now ask if they get this as a tip , if they say they don't I then ask if I leave cash do you get it and every time they say yes .

so get the discretionary tip taken off the bill and leave cash and it is a real tip

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 25 Aug 15 4.35pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Any establishment that automatically adds a service charge is out of order, whether the law allows you not to pay it or not.

I like to tip, but i'll decide how much based on the whole experience.

 


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Quote Stuk at 25 Aug 2015 4.35pm

Any establishment that automatically adds a service charge is out of order, whether the law allows you not to pay it or not.

I like to tip, but i'll decide how much based on the whole experience.



correct , how can they presume that I valued the service that I would pay a 12.5% tip any way

 


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iggy pop " I think I wiped out the 60`S "

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Quote richard shaw (og)65 at 25 Aug 2015 4.48pm

Quote Stuk at 25 Aug 2015 4.35pm

Any establishment that automatically adds a service charge is out of order, whether the law allows you not to pay it or not.

I like to tip, but i'll decide how much based on the whole experience.



correct , how can they presume that I valued the service that I would pay a 12.5% tip any way


The best one i've had was when out for one of my nieces birthday. I can't remember what is was called but it has food from all over the world.

They'd added the service charge as the table was more than 8 people, yet the place was self-service and the standard of the food didn't exactly merit the "chefs" getting that much either.

 


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this is more like it

 


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View johnfirewall's Profile johnfirewall Flag 25 Aug 15 5.03pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

Quote Stuk at 25 Aug 2015 4.58pm

Quote richard shaw (og)65 at 25 Aug 2015 4.48pm

Quote Stuk at 25 Aug 2015 4.35pm

Any establishment that automatically adds a service charge is out of order, whether the law allows you not to pay it or not.

I like to tip, but i'll decide how much based on the whole experience.



correct , how can they presume that I valued the service that I would pay a 12.5% tip any way


The best one i've had was when out for one of my nieces birthday. I can't remember what is was called but it has food from all over the world.

They'd added the service charge as the table was more than 8 people, yet the place was self-service and the standard of the food didn't exactly merit the "chefs" getting that much either.

Jimmy's?

I do recall being relieved that that wasn't added by default on a table for 2 so I didn't have to bother getting it removed.

 

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Quote Stuk at 25 Aug 2015 4.58pm

Quote richard shaw (og)65 at 25 Aug 2015 4.48pm

Quote Stuk at 25 Aug 2015 4.35pm

Any establishment that automatically adds a service charge is out of order, whether the law allows you not to pay it or not.

I like to tip, but i'll decide how much based on the whole experience.



correct , how can they presume that I valued the service that I would pay a 12.5% tip any way


The best one i've had was when out for one of my nieces birthday. I can't remember what is was called but it has food from all over the world.

They'd added the service charge as the table was more than 8 people, yet the place was self-service and the standard of the food didn't exactly merit the "chefs" getting that much either.

Was in Café Rouge, Bluewater yesterday and noticed they do this too. Why?

 

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 25 Aug 15 5.15pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Quote johnfirewall at 25 Aug 2015 5.03pm

Quote Stuk at 25 Aug 2015 4.58pm

Quote richard shaw (og)65 at 25 Aug 2015 4.48pm

Quote Stuk at 25 Aug 2015 4.35pm

Any establishment that automatically adds a service charge is out of order, whether the law allows you not to pay it or not.

I like to tip, but i'll decide how much based on the whole experience.



correct , how can they presume that I valued the service that I would pay a 12.5% tip any way


The best one i've had was when out for one of my nieces birthday. I can't remember what is was called but it has food from all over the world.

They'd added the service charge as the table was more than 8 people, yet the place was self-service and the standard of the food didn't exactly merit the "chefs" getting that much either.

Jimmy's?

I do recall being relieved that that wasn't added by default on a table for 2 so I didn't have to bother getting it removed.

It was near the cinema complex in Creepy, if you know the area.

 


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Quote rob1969 at 25 Aug 2015 5.06pm

Quote Stuk at 25 Aug 2015 4.58pm

Quote richard shaw (og)65 at 25 Aug 2015 4.48pm

Quote Stuk at 25 Aug 2015 4.35pm

Any establishment that automatically adds a service charge is out of order, whether the law allows you not to pay it or not.

I like to tip, but i'll decide how much based on the whole experience.



correct , how can they presume that I valued the service that I would pay a 12.5% tip any way


The best one i've had was when out for one of my nieces birthday. I can't remember what is was called but it has food from all over the world.

They'd added the service charge as the table was more than 8 people, yet the place was self-service and the standard of the food didn't exactly merit the "chefs" getting that much either.

Was in Café Rouge, Bluewater yesterday and noticed they do this too. Why?


Because they think by slipping it into the small print, as once you're already in, seated and looking at the menu, possibly ordered drinks too before noticing, that people will not want a confrontation about it and if they're right, it's free money.

 


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Hoof Hearted 25 Aug 15 5.25pm

Nando's..... you virtually have to serve yourself.... only went there once and they didn't get a tip.

I like restaurants where you are seated, the waiter takes your order and serves you attentively.

He/she gets a cash tip at my discretion depending on how efficient/friendly/helpful they are.

I would never pay a surcharge added to the bill out of principle.

 

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View johnfirewall's Profile johnfirewall Flag 25 Aug 15 5.29pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

Are we putting the waiter in an uncomfortable position knowing that they are visibly taking money away from their colleagues?

 

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