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Lefties won't believe this story Matt.... it's from the Daily Mail.

Strange though that they believed the story about Cameron and the pig.... which was also a Daily Mail story?

Double standards nick?

It's a shame. Goes to show how f***ed up religion can be.


Muslims AGAIN..........Why do they cause so much trouble in the world?


It's in their DNA.

When we ran India, the Muslim servants were the most troublesome.... the Hindus and Sikhs were pussy cats in comparison.

What other religion has a holy book encouraging it's followers to kill "non believers" ?


"When we ran India"


Ah yes, when Christian extremists invaded an independent country and killed hundreds of thousands if not millions of people for no other reason than enriching themselves and the East India Company


Still at least we are not muslim


Really ? I don't think there were too many Christian extremists in Victorian times. I invite you to prove me wrong.
Would you say India would have been better off without British occupation ?

I think invading their country and killing their people counts as extremism and they would certainly have regarded themselves as Christians.

India IS much better off without British occupation self evidently. Financially they are clearly much better off but there is a very basic first principle. All countries are better off running themselves. Do you think Poland is better off run by the Poles rather than the Soviets?

Strange question

 

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Lefties won't believe this story Matt.... it's from the Daily Mail.

Strange though that they believed the story about Cameron and the pig.... which was also a Daily Mail story?

Double standards nick?

It's a shame. Goes to show how f***ed up religion can be.


Muslims AGAIN..........Why do they cause so much trouble in the world?


It's in their DNA.

When we ran India, the Muslim servants were the most troublesome.... the Hindus and Sikhs were pussy cats in comparison.

What other religion has a holy book encouraging it's followers to kill "non believers" ?


"When we ran India"


Ah yes, when Christian extremists invaded an independent country and killed hundreds of thousands if not millions of people for no other reason than enriching themselves and the East India Company


Still at least we are not muslim


Really ? I don't think there were too many Christian extremists in Victorian times. I invite you to prove me wrong.
Would you say India would have been better off without British occupation ?


First question loads.

Second, your are a century out or so but the EIC ruled indirectly but 10s if not 100s of millions of deaths can be contributed to the EIC.

 


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Lefties won't believe this story Matt.... it's from the Daily Mail.

Strange though that they believed the story about Cameron and the pig.... which was also a Daily Mail story?

Double standards nick?

It's a shame. Goes to show how f***ed up religion can be.


Muslims AGAIN..........Why do they cause so much trouble in the world?


It's in their DNA.

When we ran India, the Muslim servants were the most troublesome.... the Hindus and Sikhs were pussy cats in comparison.

What other religion has a holy book encouraging it's followers to kill "non believers" ?


"When we ran India"


Ah yes, when Christian extremists invaded an independent country and killed hundreds of thousands if not millions of people for no other reason than enriching themselves and the East India Company


Still at least we are not muslim


Really ? I don't think there were too many Christian extremists in Victorian times. I invite you to prove me wrong.
Would you say India would have been better off without British occupation ?

I think invading their country and killing their people counts as extremism and they would certainly have regarded themselves as Christians.

India IS much better off without British occupation self evidently. Financially they are clearly much better off but there is a very basic first principle. All countries are better off running themselves. Do you think Poland is better off run by the Poles rather than the Soviets?

Strange question

You are shifting,

You said "Christian extremists" I invite you to show me Christian extremists in Victorian Britain.

Your assertion about India being better off today without Britain clearly overlooks the fact that India would not be as it is today without British rule.
India has slowly regressed since the British left.
Would you like to live there ?

Principle is too rigid. You say any country is better off ruling itself. Is Britain better for Roman and Norman rule ? There is a very strong case.


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Lefties won't believe this story Matt.... it's from the Daily Mail.

Strange though that they believed the story about Cameron and the pig.... which was also a Daily Mail story?

Double standards nick?

It's a shame. Goes to show how f***ed up religion can be.


Muslims AGAIN..........Why do they cause so much trouble in the world?


It's in their DNA.

When we ran India, the Muslim servants were the most troublesome.... the Hindus and Sikhs were pussy cats in comparison.

What other religion has a holy book encouraging it's followers to kill "non believers" ?


"When we ran India"


Ah yes, when Christian extremists invaded an independent country and killed hundreds of thousands if not millions of people for no other reason than enriching themselves and the East India Company


Still at least we are not muslim


Really ? I don't think there were too many Christian extremists in Victorian times. I invite you to prove me wrong.
Would you say India would have been better off without British occupation ?

I think invading their country and killing their people counts as extremism and they would certainly have regarded themselves as Christians.

India IS much better off without British occupation self evidently. Financially they are clearly much better off but there is a very basic first principle. All countries are better off running themselves. Do you think Poland is better off run by the Poles rather than the Soviets?

Strange question

Couldn't agree more - that's why we should leave the EU as soon as possible.

 


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Lefties won't believe this story Matt.... it's from the Daily Mail.

Strange though that they believed the story about Cameron and the pig.... which was also a Daily Mail story?

Double standards nick?

It's a shame. Goes to show how f***ed up religion can be.


Muslims AGAIN..........Why do they cause so much trouble in the world?


It's in their DNA.

When we ran India, the Muslim servants were the most troublesome.... the Hindus and Sikhs were pussy cats in comparison.

What other religion has a holy book encouraging it's followers to kill "non believers" ?


"When we ran India"


Ah yes, when Christian extremists invaded an independent country and killed hundreds of thousands if not millions of people for no other reason than enriching themselves and the East India Company


Still at least we are not muslim


Really ? I don't think there were too many Christian extremists in Victorian times. I invite you to prove me wrong.
Would you say India would have been better off without British occupation ?

I think invading their country and killing their people counts as extremism and they would certainly have regarded themselves as Christians.

India IS much better off without British occupation self evidently. Financially they are clearly much better off but there is a very basic first principle. All countries are better off running themselves. Do you think Poland is better off run by the Poles rather than the Soviets?

Strange question

You are shifting,

You said "extremists" I invite you to show me extremists in Victorian Britain.

Your assertion about India being better off today without Britain clearly overlooks the fact that India would not be as it is today without British rule.
India has slowly regressed since the British left.
Would you like to live there ?

Principle is too rigid. You say any country is better off ruling itself. Is Britain better for Roman and Norman rule ? There is a very strong case.


I think you misunderstood my answer. The fact that the Victorians went there to control, exploit and kill makes them extremists.

The idea that India is worse off now Britain has gone is demonstrable nonsense and I presume simply the product of your love of empire. The world's largest democracy was certainly shaped by British occupation. Ukraine was shaped by the Soviet Union. ALL countries are better off ruling themselves even (especially) when they make mistakes.

Who are you to decide say America would be better off run by Australia, Ireland by Britain or Britain better of being run by Mexico.

Whatever made you think you are the member of some master race that thinks it can run countries better than the people who live there.

Yes I would love to live there. Though there are several others that would make the list starting with Iceland

 

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It's in their DNA.


I missed this first time through the thread.

Personally, I don't think you meant to be racist against Asians. Did you?


I meant what I said Peffers.... if you interpret it as racist then there is little I can do.

I like the response from redblueyellow :-

I'm a tolerant sort of bloke, I still think there's a way to make multi-culturalism work in Britain.
Yet this story (and a shed load of others) about Muslim 'behaviour' really illustrate that there's no answer to stupidity when it's sanctioned by a religion.
What really fcuks me off is that they refer back to 'The time of ignorance' (meaning before The Prophet) and then use that as a cover for the most stupid and destructive actions.
Also, strictly speaking the Christian and Jewish faiths are protected under Islam as all are considered to acknowledge the same 'One God'.
Ignorance, hypocrisy, misogyny, intolerance and violence are becoming bywords for Islam and it's not all being done by antagonistic commentators but by the Muslims themselves.
If I'm reaching the end of my tether with these idiots, I can well understand the reactions of those with more Anglo-centric or anti-religious sensibilities.
Obviously not all Muslims are like that but it seems that the idiots are going to spoil it for everyone by finding justification for the unjustifiable in the Koran.
For now, I'll continue to trust the Muslims I know as friends and colleagues but beyond that......no, not any more.

That pretty much sums up my feelings about Islam too.

DNA is about race and ethnicity, yet your excuse is about religion. You seem to want conflate the two, I don't trust people like that it smacks of 1940s.



Excuse?

I make no excuses for my opinions or beliefs and as you are merely a fictitious name on a football forum your trust is of no concern to me.

 

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Lefties won't believe this story Matt.... it's from the Daily Mail.

Strange though that they believed the story about Cameron and the pig.... which was also a Daily Mail story?

Double standards nick?

It's a shame. Goes to show how f***ed up religion can be.


Muslims AGAIN..........Why do they cause so much trouble in the world?


It's in their DNA.

When we ran India, the Muslim servants were the most troublesome.... the Hindus and Sikhs were pussy cats in comparison.

What other religion has a holy book encouraging it's followers to kill "non believers" ?


"When we ran India"


Ah yes, when Christian extremists invaded an independent country and killed hundreds of thousands if not millions of people for no other reason than enriching themselves and the East India Company


Still at least we are not muslim


Exactly.... and India ran a little bit better than it does today.

 

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Lefties won't believe this story Matt.... it's from the Daily Mail.

Strange though that they believed the story about Cameron and the pig.... which was also a Daily Mail story?

Double standards nick?

It's a shame. Goes to show how f***ed up religion can be.


Muslims AGAIN..........Why do they cause so much trouble in the world?


It's in their DNA.

When we ran India, the Muslim servants were the most troublesome.... the Hindus and Sikhs were pussy cats in comparison.

What other religion has a holy book encouraging it's followers to kill "non believers" ?


"When we ran India"


Ah yes, when Christian extremists invaded an independent country and killed hundreds of thousands if not millions of people for no other reason than enriching themselves and the East India Company


Still at least we are not muslim


Exactly.... and India ran a little bit better than it does today.


Explain how India ran a little better then compared to now?

 

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Lefties won't believe this story Matt.... it's from the Daily Mail.

Strange though that they believed the story about Cameron and the pig.... which was also a Daily Mail story?

Double standards nick?

It's a shame. Goes to show how f***ed up religion can be.


Muslims AGAIN..........Why do they cause so much trouble in the world?


It's in their DNA.

When we ran India, the Muslim servants were the most troublesome.... the Hindus and Sikhs were pussy cats in comparison.

What other religion has a holy book encouraging it's followers to kill "non believers" ?


"When we ran India"


Ah yes, when Christian extremists invaded an independent country and killed hundreds of thousands if not millions of people for no other reason than enriching themselves and the East India Company


Still at least we are not muslim


Exactly.... and India ran a little bit better than it does today.


Explain how India ran a little better then compared to now?


You're getting all needy again (like the last time you butted in on my discussions with someone else) and I tried to debate with you when you changed "partly to blame" to guilty.

I was discussing the matter with Pefwin - so butt out.

I'm not interested in your views.

 

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Lefties won't believe this story Matt.... it's from the Daily Mail.

Strange though that they believed the story about Cameron and the pig.... which was also a Daily Mail story?

Double standards nick?

It's a shame. Goes to show how f***ed up religion can be.


Muslims AGAIN..........Why do they cause so much trouble in the world?


It's in their DNA.

When we ran India, the Muslim servants were the most troublesome.... the Hindus and Sikhs were pussy cats in comparison.

What other religion has a holy book encouraging it's followers to kill "non believers" ?


"When we ran India"


Ah yes, when Christian extremists invaded an independent country and killed hundreds of thousands if not millions of people for no other reason than enriching themselves and the East India Company


Still at least we are not muslim


Really ? I don't think there were too many Christian extremists in Victorian times. I invite you to prove me wrong.
Would you say India would have been better off without British occupation ?

I think invading their country and killing their people counts as extremism and they would certainly have regarded themselves as Christians.

India IS much better off without British occupation self evidently. Financially they are clearly much better off but there is a very basic first principle. All countries are better off running themselves. Do you think Poland is better off run by the Poles rather than the Soviets?

Strange question

You are shifting,

You said "extremists" I invite you to show me extremists in Victorian Britain.

Your assertion about India being better off today without Britain clearly overlooks the fact that India would not be as it is today without British rule.
India has slowly regressed since the British left.
Would you like to live there ?

Principle is too rigid. You say any country is better off ruling itself. Is Britain better for Roman and Norman rule ? There is a very strong case.


I think you misunderstood my answer. The fact that the Victorians went there to control, exploit and kill makes them extremists.

The idea that India is worse off now Britain has gone is demonstrable nonsense and I presume simply the product of your love of empire. The world's largest democracy was certainly shaped by British occupation. Ukraine was shaped by the Soviet Union. ALL countries are better off ruling themselves even (especially) when they make mistakes.

Who are you to decide say America would be better off run by Australia, Ireland by Britain or Britain better of being run by Mexico.

Whatever made you think you are the member of some master race that thinks it can run countries better than the people who live there.

Yes I would love to live there. Though there are several others that would make the list starting with Iceland

No I didn't. You are back tracking.
You made a silly statement to make a silly argument.

As for India being demonstrably better off.

Demonstrate it.

Most of India's infrastructure is a result of British rule.

 

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Quote Hoof Hearted at 03 Oct 2015 10.46am

Lefties won't believe this story Matt.... it's from the Daily Mail.

Strange though that they believed the story about Cameron and the pig.... which was also a Daily Mail story?

Double standards nick?

It's a shame. Goes to show how f***ed up religion can be.


Muslims AGAIN..........Why do they cause so much trouble in the world?


It's in their DNA.

When we ran India, the Muslim servants were the most troublesome.... the Hindus and Sikhs were pussy cats in comparison.

What other religion has a holy book encouraging it's followers to kill "non believers" ?


"When we ran India"


Ah yes, when Christian extremists invaded an independent country and killed hundreds of thousands if not millions of people for no other reason than enriching themselves and the East India Company


Still at least we are not muslim


Really ? I don't think there were too many Christian extremists in Victorian times. I invite you to prove me wrong.
Would you say India would have been better off without British occupation ?

I think invading their country and killing their people counts as extremism and they would certainly have regarded themselves as Christians.

India IS much better off without British occupation self evidently. Financially they are clearly much better off but there is a very basic first principle. All countries are better off running themselves. Do you think Poland is better off run by the Poles rather than the Soviets?

Strange question

You are shifting,

You said "extremists" I invite you to show me extremists in Victorian Britain.

Your assertion about India being better off today without Britain clearly overlooks the fact that India would not be as it is today without British rule.
India has slowly regressed since the British left.
Would you like to live there ?

Principle is too rigid. You say any country is better off ruling itself. Is Britain better for Roman and Norman rule ? There is a very strong case.


I think you misunderstood my answer. The fact that the Victorians went there to control, exploit and kill makes them extremists.

The idea that India is worse off now Britain has gone is demonstrable nonsense and I presume simply the product of your love of empire. The world's largest democracy was certainly shaped by British occupation. Ukraine was shaped by the Soviet Union. ALL countries are better off ruling themselves even (especially) when they make mistakes.

Who are you to decide say America would be better off run by Australia, Ireland by Britain or Britain better of being run by Mexico.

Whatever made you think you are the member of some master race that thinks it can run countries better than the people who live there.

Yes I would love to live there. Though there are several others that would make the list starting with Iceland

No I didn't. You are back tracking.
You made a silly statement to make a silly argument.

As for India being demonstrably better off.

Demonstrate it.

Most of India's infrastructure is a result of British rule.


Hrolf... save yourself a lot of time and grief and ignore this fella... he's a WUM.

 

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Lefties won't believe this story Matt.... it's from the Daily Mail.

Strange though that they believed the story about Cameron and the pig.... which was also a Daily Mail story?

Double standards nick?

Rightie-wrongies will believe the story for its self-evident truth yet strangely en masse gang-rape and murder poor defenceless widowed pensioners. The c***s.

Double standards? (No.) Ongoing tedious indignant carping at presumed behaviour? (Ooh... )

Edited by Eustace H. Plimsoll (04 Oct 2015 7.02pm)

 


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