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Quote leggedstruggle at 08 Oct 2015 7.52am

Surely they are vulnerable people who have been groomed and alienated by British foreign policy and bogeymen like Anand Choudhary?

Which is pretty much it..say what you like but extremists of any hue simply come about because they are or feel ignored or disenfranchised, they find a cause against something they perceive as a threat or the reason for their disenfranchisement , real or imagined and voila - doesn't make any of them right but I can understand any group of likeminded souls getting one on however idiotic, barbaric or dark age.

Instead of tackling the disharmony or problems these groups cause at source, society, media and politicians then bollock on moaning about them without anything tangible or sensible actually done - and that's whether its BF / ISIS or the militant wing of the Girl Guides...


 


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Quote Stirlingsays at 08 Oct 2015 4.26am

Nothing wrong with moderate peaceful nationalism: It's the heartbeat of a nation.

However, violence and its support should always be rejected as a default means of combating views/people you don't agree with.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Oct 2015 4.29am)

Violence, or the threat of violence, is sometimes necessary for the greater good, against people who have begun implementing and turning their extreme views into action imo.

The SPG v Brixton/South London youth in 1981 springs to mind. As do the assassination of Heydrich and having to front up my cvnt of a neighbour a few years back .

 


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Quote Stirlingsays at 08 Oct 2015 4.26am

Nothing wrong with moderate peaceful nationalism: It's the heartbeat of a nation.

However, violence and its support should always be rejected as a default means of combating views/people you don't agree with.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Oct 2015 4.29am)


Spoken like a true Corbynista.

 

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Quote DanH at 08 Oct 2015 10.31am

Quote Stirlingsays at 08 Oct 2015 4.26am

Nothing wrong with moderate peaceful nationalism: It's the heartbeat of a nation.

However, violence and its support should always be rejected as a default means of combating views/people you don't agree with.



Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Oct 2015 4.29am)


Spoken like a true Corbynista.


Or, if he were Syrian, someone not prepared to stay and fight.

 


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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 08 Oct 15 10.42am

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Oct 2015 10.21am

Quote Stirlingsays at 08 Oct 2015 4.26am

Nothing wrong with moderate peaceful nationalism: It's the heartbeat of a nation.

However, violence and its support should always be rejected as a default means of combating views/people you don't agree with.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Oct 2015 4.29am)

Violence, or the threat of violence, is sometimes necessary for the greater good, against people who have begun implementing and turning their extreme views into action imo.

The SPG v Brixton/South London youth in 1981 springs to mind. As do the assassination of Heydrich and having to front up my cvnt of a neighbour a few years back .

There really is no limit to the fatuousness of your 'views' is there.

 


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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 07 Oct 2015 3.56pm

More unnecessary exposure for a small group of nobodies.

Why are the TV companies so obsessed with sh0owing these kind of programs I wonder.


Agreed. Everyone should just file this lot under "ignore".

Like that Islam4UK nutbar group.



Never even heard of them. It'd be the same for the others were it not for the odd fool on facebook.


The Britain First page has just shy of a million likes or supporters.

Edited by oldcodger (07 Oct 2015 6.26pm)


That reflects well on my friend to fool ratio then. They're mostly older and will repost anything, bless 'em. Same ones that post stories that have been debunked about ten years previous to them posting them.

 


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Quote Stuk at 07 Oct 2015 4.28pm

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Quote Stuk at 07 Oct 2015 4.13pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 07 Oct 2015 3.56pm

More unnecessary exposure for a small group of nobodies.

Why are the TV companies so obsessed with sh0owing these kind of programs I wonder.


Agreed. Everyone should just file this lot under "ignore".

Like that Islam4UK nutbar group.



Never even heard of them. It'd be the same for the others were it not for the odd fool on facebook.


The Britain First page has just shy of a million likes or supporters.

Edited by oldcodger (07 Oct 2015 6.26pm)


I'm sure the Peter Andre page has got more than that but we don't take that c*** seriously do we.

He doesn't have a political party. People like the Britain First page precisely because they are angered by and agree with what they see there. Unfortunately what they see is always one sided and often propoganda. Would we brush off a massively popular british muslim run hate page so easily? Both are looking for trouble, not solutions.


Edited by oldcodger (08 Oct 2015 1.47am)

It's one thing to share concerns about immigration, security,religious dogma excreta and another to use it as a tool to drum up hatred and xenophobia. The average Brit is not at home to extreme right wing wannabees. The are smarter than that.

The shadow of Hitler still looms large.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 08 Oct 15 11.18am

Quote Beastie at 07 Oct 2015 4.50pm

Personally I’m glad they’re around to let everyone on facebook know about scandals like all those ex-soldiers having their pensions taken away to give to Muslim immigrants.

I was so angry, I shared the f*ck out of that one.

Yes, because that's a 'real thing'. The government actually cut military pensions so they could give that money to Muslim immigrants.

I agree, cutting soliders pensions is questionable, but its so David Cameron can pop round the local mosque and give it away.


 


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I heard they want to ban the word ‘Christmas’ from schools because it offends Muslims. Makes my blood boil that does.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 08 Oct 15 11.23am

Quote leggedstruggle at 08 Oct 2015 10.42am

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Oct 2015 10.21am

Quote Stirlingsays at 08 Oct 2015 4.26am

Nothing wrong with moderate peaceful nationalism: It's the heartbeat of a nation.

However, violence and its support should always be rejected as a default means of combating views/people you don't agree with.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Oct 2015 4.29am)

Violence, or the threat of violence, is sometimes necessary for the greater good, against people who have begun implementing and turning their extreme views into action imo.

The SPG v Brixton/South London youth in 1981 springs to mind. As do the assassination of Heydrich and having to front up my cvnt of a neighbour a few years back .

There really is no limit to the fatuousness of your 'views' is there.

I disagree, when faced with violence, usually the only viable response is to answer in kind. I've never started trouble but I don't believe in shying away from bullys, thugs and intimidation either. It should never be your first choice or solution, but often the only response is to stand firm and make a fist.


 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 08 Oct 2015 11.23am

Quote leggedstruggle at 08 Oct 2015 10.42am

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Oct 2015 10.21am

Quote Stirlingsays at 08 Oct 2015 4.26am

Nothing wrong with moderate peaceful nationalism: It's the heartbeat of a nation.

However, violence and its support should always be rejected as a default means of combating views/people you don't agree with.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Oct 2015 4.29am)

Violence, or the threat of violence, is sometimes necessary for the greater good, against people who have begun implementing and turning their extreme views into action imo.

The SPG v Brixton/South London youth in 1981 springs to mind. As do the assassination of Heydrich and having to front up my cvnt of a neighbour a few years back .

There really is no limit to the fatuousness of your 'views' is there.

I disagree, when faced with violence, usually the only viable response is to answer in kind. I've never started trouble but I don't believe in shying away from bullys, thugs and intimidation either. It should never be your first choice or solution, but often the only response is to stand firm and make a fist.


Of course everyone who says violence is justified only mean it is justified by people whose aims they agree with. To say the 1981 Brixton riots were justified is merely the rewriting of history to glorify a sordid event carried out by yobs egged on by left wing agitators. Come on, why not go on to glorify Broadwater - glorify thugs trying to put a policeman's head on a stick.

 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 08 Oct 2015 11.18am

Quote Beastie at 07 Oct 2015 4.50pm

Personally I’m glad they’re around to let everyone on facebook know about scandals like all those ex-soldiers having their pensions taken away to give to Muslim immigrants.

I was so angry, I shared the f*ck out of that one.

Yes, because that's a 'real thing'. The government actually cut military pensions so they could give that money to Muslim immigrants.

I agree, cutting soliders pensions is questionable, but its so David Cameron can pop round the local mosque and give it away.


I don't quite know how you came to that conclusion??

You need to read the following:
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As for the old guy who had his pension taken away to pay for his care I think you should note it was not the government but the guys local council who did.


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