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Quote Beastie at 08 Oct 2015 11.22am

I heard they want to ban the word ‘Christmas’ from schools because it offends Muslims. Makes my blood boil that does.


You heard it where ?

I'd be in favour of banning all religious symbolism and doctrine in schools.

How about that ?

I am as unhappy about the rise of Islamic ideals in Britain as the next man but it is an opportunity to rid ourselves of all religious nonsense.

I'm not holding my breath.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 Oct 15 12.48pm

Quote Beastie at 08 Oct 2015 11.22am

I heard they want to ban the word ‘Christmas’ from schools because it offends Muslims. Makes my blood boil that does.


Total bulls*** that one!

 

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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 08 Oct 2015 12.40pm

Quote Beastie at 08 Oct 2015 11.22am

I heard they want to ban the word ‘Christmas’ from schools because it offends Muslims. Makes my blood boil that does.


You heard it where ?

I'd be in favour of banning all religious symbolism and doctrine in schools.

How about that ?

I am as unhappy about the rise of Islamic ideals in Britain as the next man but it is an opportunity to rid ourselves of all religious nonsense.

I'm not holding my breath.


Yep

Just because Islam is by far the most backward major world religion its by no means exclusive in its idiocy.

 


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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 08 Oct 15 1.13pm

Quote Beastie at 08 Oct 2015 11.22am

I heard they want to ban the word ‘Christmas’ from schools because it offends Muslims. Makes my blood boil that does.

Oliver Cromwell banned Christmas, he was also a religious zealot who beheaded people - liked his women to cover up too. Not a great one for parliamentary democracy either. Mind you he wasn't an anti-semite.

 


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Quote leggedstruggle at 08 Oct 2015 1.13pm

Quote Beastie at 08 Oct 2015 11.22am

I heard they want to ban the word ‘Christmas’ from schools because it offends Muslims. Makes my blood boil that does.

Oliver Cromwell banned Christmas, he was also a religious zealot who beheaded people - liked his women to cover up too. Not a great one for parliamentary democracy either. Mind you he wasn't an anti-semite.


He liked a ham sandwich as well...

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 Oct 15 1.16pm

The origins of the Christmas is banned myth goes back to 1997 when Birmingham City Council's sought to create a campaign that encompassed Christmas, Diwali, the Frankfurt Christmas Market, Children in Need, the outdoor ice rink, New Year's Eve and various other city-wide celebrations. Preferring a single banner campaign, the outcome was 'Winterval', a portmanteau of 'winter' and 'festival'.
Despite the front page of the Council's Winterval brochure (which included details of all of the city's events including Christmas) having the word 'Christmas' on its front page three times - the street posters also prominently featured the word 'Christmas' - a local newspaper 'broke' the Christmas is banned story on 8 November 1998.
Within days, the story had gone national.
As the Guardian reported a few years ago, between the Times and Sunday Times the Winterval myth has been repeated 40 times since 1998, surpassed only by the Daily Mail repeated on 44 separate occasions. Elsewhere, the Sun has repeated it 31 times, the Daily Telegraph 22 and the Express 26. Tellingly, the Guardian has mentioned it just six times (a number of which seek to debunk the myth), the Daily Mirror just four.
Possibly more problematic than the mere repetition of the original myth is that, as with our conservative friend, the myth gets exported and mass-produced, endemic amongst a vast array of different - and nameless - councils and authorities all over the country.
Equally problematic is the way in which the original myth is also routinely and regularly updated and expanded.
So for example, one local newspaper recently claimed that councils had been given a set of "new rules" that enforce the banning of Christmas. Unsurprisingly, the newspaper failed to detail who created 'the rules' as also who might be required to enforce them.
A worrying part of this expansion is the inclusion of who is to 'blame' for the banning of Christmas. As the national newspaper articles referred to previously show, at least 15 of them directly claim that Christmas is being banned because it offends 'other faiths' (hence the Christmas cards from the Muslim Council of Britain).
A further 10 directly claim it is because Christmas offends 'ethnic minorities'.
Again somewhat unsurprisingly, none appear to be substantiated with evidence.

 

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Speaking of Britain First...

Edited by madcap_v2 (08 Oct 2015 1.28pm)

 


La la la your mum

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Quote nickgusset at 08 Oct 2015 1.16pm

The origins of the Christmas is banned myth goes back to 1997 when Birmingham City Council's sought to create a campaign that encompassed Christmas, Diwali, the Frankfurt Christmas Market, Children in Need, the outdoor ice rink, New Year's Eve and various other city-wide celebrations. Preferring a single banner campaign, the outcome was 'Winterval', a portmanteau of 'winter' and 'festival'.
Despite the front page of the Council's Winterval brochure (which included details of all of the city's events including Christmas) having the word 'Christmas' on its front page three times - the street posters also prominently featured the word 'Christmas' - a local newspaper 'broke' the Christmas is banned story on 8 November 1998.
Within days, the story had gone national.
As the Guardian reported a few years ago, between the Times and Sunday Times the Winterval myth has been repeated 40 times since 1998, surpassed only by the Daily Mail repeated on 44 separate occasions. Elsewhere, the Sun has repeated it 31 times, the Daily Telegraph 22 and the Express 26. Tellingly, the Guardian has mentioned it just six times (a number of which seek to debunk the myth), the Daily Mirror just four.
Possibly more problematic than the mere repetition of the original myth is that, as with our conservative friend, the myth gets exported and mass-produced, endemic amongst a vast array of different - and nameless - councils and authorities all over the country.
Equally problematic is the way in which the original myth is also routinely and regularly updated and expanded.
So for example, one local newspaper recently claimed that councils had been given a set of "new rules" that enforce the banning of Christmas. Unsurprisingly, the newspaper failed to detail who created 'the rules' as also who might be required to enforce them.
A worrying part of this expansion is the inclusion of who is to 'blame' for the banning of Christmas. As the national newspaper articles referred to previously show, at least 15 of them directly claim that Christmas is being banned because it offends 'other faiths' (hence the Christmas cards from the Muslim Council of Britain).
A further 10 directly claim it is because Christmas offends 'ethnic minorities'.
Again somewhat unsurprisingly, none appear to be substantiated with evidence.


I couldn't be bothered to read this but I'm sure that if any one did suggest banning Christmas anywhere it would be someone white and middle class.

They are always right at the front for great ideas regarding minorities.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Oct 2015 1.35pm)

 

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Quote Cucking Funt at 07 Oct 2015 6.36pm

Nobody should be surprised. The Right are on the march across Europe.

Looking at some of the threads in General Talk it would appear the right are on the march on the HOL, which should make some posters quite happy bedfellows with Britain First.

 


Cynic or realist? It's a fine line!

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Hoof Hearted 08 Oct 15 3.16pm

Quote nickgusset at 08 Oct 2015 1.16pm

The origins of the Christmas is banned myth goes back to 1997 when Birmingham City Council's sought to create a campaign that encompassed Christmas, Diwali, the Frankfurt Christmas Market, Children in Need, the outdoor ice rink, New Year's Eve and various other city-wide celebrations. Preferring a single banner campaign, the outcome was 'Winterval', a portmanteau of 'winter' and 'festival'.
Despite the front page of the Council's Winterval brochure (which included details of all of the city's events including Christmas) having the word 'Christmas' on its front page three times - the street posters also prominently featured the word 'Christmas' - a local newspaper 'broke' the Christmas is banned story on 8 November 1998.
Within days, the story had gone national.
As the Guardian reported a few years ago, between the Times and Sunday Times the Winterval myth has been repeated 40 times since 1998, surpassed only by the Daily Mail repeated on 44 separate occasions. Elsewhere, the Sun has repeated it 31 times, the Daily Telegraph 22 and the Express 26. Tellingly, the Guardian has mentioned it just six times (a number of which seek to debunk the myth), the Daily Mirror just four.
Possibly more problematic than the mere repetition of the original myth is that, as with our conservative friend, the myth gets exported and mass-produced, endemic amongst a vast array of different - and nameless - councils and authorities all over the country.
Equally problematic is the way in which the original myth is also routinely and regularly updated and expanded.
So for example, one local newspaper recently claimed that councils had been given a set of "new rules" that enforce the banning of Christmas. Unsurprisingly, the newspaper failed to detail who created 'the rules' as also who might be required to enforce them.
A worrying part of this expansion is the inclusion of who is to 'blame' for the banning of Christmas. As the national newspaper articles referred to previously show, at least 15 of them directly claim that Christmas is being banned because it offends 'other faiths' (hence the Christmas cards from the Muslim Council of Britain).
A further 10 directly claim it is because Christmas offends 'ethnic minorities'.
Again somewhat unsurprisingly, none appear to be substantiated with evidence.


I do believe you are the first to use that word on Hol nick.

Respect!

 

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Quote Hoof Hearted at 08 Oct 2015 3.16pm

Quote nickgusset at 08 Oct 2015 1.16pm

The origins of the Christmas is banned myth goes back to 1997 when Birmingham City Council's sought to create a campaign that encompassed Christmas, Diwali, the Frankfurt Christmas Market, Children in Need, the outdoor ice rink, New Year's Eve and various other city-wide celebrations. Preferring a single banner campaign, the outcome was 'Winterval', a portmanteau of 'winter' and 'festival'.
Despite the front page of the Council's Winterval brochure (which included details of all of the city's events including Christmas) having the word 'Christmas' on its front page three times - the street posters also prominently featured the word 'Christmas' - a local newspaper 'broke' the Christmas is banned story on 8 November 1998.
Within days, the story had gone national.
As the Guardian reported a few years ago, between the Times and Sunday Times the Winterval myth has been repeated 40 times since 1998, surpassed only by the Daily Mail repeated on 44 separate occasions. Elsewhere, the Sun has repeated it 31 times, the Daily Telegraph 22 and the Express 26. Tellingly, the Guardian has mentioned it just six times (a number of which seek to debunk the myth), the Daily Mirror just four.
Possibly more problematic than the mere repetition of the original myth is that, as with our conservative friend, the myth gets exported and mass-produced, endemic amongst a vast array of different - and nameless - councils and authorities all over the country.
Equally problematic is the way in which the original myth is also routinely and regularly updated and expanded.
So for example, one local newspaper recently claimed that councils had been given a set of "new rules" that enforce the banning of Christmas. Unsurprisingly, the newspaper failed to detail who created 'the rules' as also who might be required to enforce them.
A worrying part of this expansion is the inclusion of who is to 'blame' for the banning of Christmas. As the national newspaper articles referred to previously show, at least 15 of them directly claim that Christmas is being banned because it offends 'other faiths' (hence the Christmas cards from the Muslim Council of Britain).
A further 10 directly claim it is because Christmas offends 'ethnic minorities'.
Again somewhat unsurprisingly, none appear to be substantiated with evidence.


I do believe you are the first to use that word on Hol nick.

Respect!


Hold the respect - the article's a copy'n'paste from the Huffington Post

 

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Hoof Hearted 08 Oct 15 3.23pm

Quote npn at 08 Oct 2015 3.19pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 08 Oct 2015 3.16pm

Quote nickgusset at 08 Oct 2015 1.16pm

The origins of the Christmas is banned myth goes back to 1997 when Birmingham City Council's sought to create a campaign that encompassed Christmas, Diwali, the Frankfurt Christmas Market, Children in Need, the outdoor ice rink, New Year's Eve and various other city-wide celebrations. Preferring a single banner campaign, the outcome was 'Winterval', a portmanteau of 'winter' and 'festival'.
Despite the front page of the Council's Winterval brochure (which included details of all of the city's events including Christmas) having the word 'Christmas' on its front page three times - the street posters also prominently featured the word 'Christmas' - a local newspaper 'broke' the Christmas is banned story on 8 November 1998.
Within days, the story had gone national.
As the Guardian reported a few years ago, between the Times and Sunday Times the Winterval myth has been repeated 40 times since 1998, surpassed only by the Daily Mail repeated on 44 separate occasions. Elsewhere, the Sun has repeated it 31 times, the Daily Telegraph 22 and the Express 26. Tellingly, the Guardian has mentioned it just six times (a number of which seek to debunk the myth), the Daily Mirror just four.
Possibly more problematic than the mere repetition of the original myth is that, as with our conservative friend, the myth gets exported and mass-produced, endemic amongst a vast array of different - and nameless - councils and authorities all over the country.
Equally problematic is the way in which the original myth is also routinely and regularly updated and expanded.
So for example, one local newspaper recently claimed that councils had been given a set of "new rules" that enforce the banning of Christmas. Unsurprisingly, the newspaper failed to detail who created 'the rules' as also who might be required to enforce them.
A worrying part of this expansion is the inclusion of who is to 'blame' for the banning of Christmas. As the national newspaper articles referred to previously show, at least 15 of them directly claim that Christmas is being banned because it offends 'other faiths' (hence the Christmas cards from the Muslim Council of Britain).
A further 10 directly claim it is because Christmas offends 'ethnic minorities'.
Again somewhat unsurprisingly, none appear to be substantiated with evidence.


I do believe you are the first to use that word on Hol nick.

Respect!


Hold the respect - the article's a copy'n'paste from the Huffington Post


Ah...... I thought nick had widened his repertoire and was showing off.

 

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