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 sydtheeagle  England 12 Oct 15 11.16am |
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How is protesting in order to make your country what you believe to be a better place being anti your country? You might be wrong in terms of what you believe will make it better, but protest is almost the definition of patriotism since it demonstrates that you are committed enough to improving things to stand up and be counted. If anyone is anti-British (in this case) it's those who meekly accept the status quo and therefore contribute nothing (or little) to society. Corbyn, simply by dint of being a party leader, cannot be anti British. Nor can the leaders of any party, whether I agree with their ideology or not.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Oct 15 11.26am |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 Oct 2015 10.41am
It's a lot easier for us thickos to join in with the debate when Corbyn is accused of being a scruffy bearded lefty weirdo. All this highbrow mumbo jumbo is for sydtheeagle and jamiemartin. K.I.S.S. Weird people are inherently more trustworthy than anyone who thinks they are 'normal'.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 12 Oct 15 11.45am |
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I'm not sure what people are getting at here. There is so much obfuscation going on that it has become rather silly. I assume that some are saying that the British(The white ones) are feeling undermined by foreign influence and that some are offended by left wing pandering to anything that undermines traditional British values. (not ones perceived to be foreign) I see a desperate divided Labour Party who never seem to grasp that middle England will never vote for their deluded notion of right as opposed to wrong. If I have misunderstood any of the previous comments then I will sack my code breaker.
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| chris123 hove actually 12 Oct 15 12.39pm |
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Quote sydtheeagle at 12 Oct 2015 11.16am
How is protesting in order to make your country what you believe to be a better place being anti your country? You might be wrong in terms of what you believe will make it better, but protest is almost the definition of patriotism since it demonstrates that you are committed enough to improving things to stand up and be counted. If anyone is anti-British (in this case) it's those who meekly accept the status quo and therefore contribute nothing (or little) to society. Corbyn, simply by dint of being a party leader, cannot be anti British. Nor can the leaders of any party, whether I agree with their ideology or not.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 Oct 15 12.43pm |
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Quote chris123 at 12 Oct 2015 12.39pm
Quote sydtheeagle at 12 Oct 2015 11.16am
How is protesting in order to make your country what you believe to be a better place being anti your country? You might be wrong in terms of what you believe will make it better, but protest is almost the definition of patriotism since it demonstrates that you are committed enough to improving things to stand up and be counted. If anyone is anti-British (in this case) it's those who meekly accept the status quo and therefore contribute nothing (or little) to society. Corbyn, simply by dint of being a party leader, cannot be anti British. Nor can the leaders of any party, whether I agree with their ideology or not.
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Frickin Saweet  South Cronx 12 Oct 15 12.47pm |
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Quote johnfirewall at 11 Oct 2015 6.42pm
This accusation was most notably thrown at Corbyn last week and and the defence from the left is usually that tolerance etc are actually British traits to be proud of. Today I read something about the Black Power salute at the Mexico Olympics suggesting that the white Australian silver medalist suffered, as do people to this day in both countries as a result of 'racism imposed by British rule'. Is that fair or are there quite a few self loathing Brits in that same way that there's trust fund guilt? I find this awful Great Britain a bit paradoxical but wonder if it's just been bad since Cameron? Edited by johnfirewall (11 Oct 2015 6.43pm) there's an interview with that silver medal winner that you should watch. In it he talks about how he was honoured and humbled to be a part of the statement that was being made.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Oct 15 12.57pm |
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Quote chris123 at 12 Oct 2015 12.39pm
Quote sydtheeagle at 12 Oct 2015 11.16am
How is protesting in order to make your country what you believe to be a better place being anti your country? You might be wrong in terms of what you believe will make it better, but protest is almost the definition of patriotism since it demonstrates that you are committed enough to improving things to stand up and be counted. If anyone is anti-British (in this case) it's those who meekly accept the status quo and therefore contribute nothing (or little) to society. Corbyn, simply by dint of being a party leader, cannot be anti British. Nor can the leaders of any party, whether I agree with their ideology or not.
Not sure he was actually spitting or throwing the eggs. What are these traditions that are ours, and what do you mean by 'likes our country'? I like the view of the New Forrest as Autumn claims the trees and the smell of salt on the air along the British coasts, but I don't like our political system which essentially is a biased two horse race that both winners manipulate to improve their chances - Am I still British?
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| chris123 hove actually 12 Oct 15 1.13pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Oct 2015 12.57pm
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Quote sydtheeagle at 12 Oct 2015 11.16am
How is protesting in order to make your country what you believe to be a better place being anti your country? You might be wrong in terms of what you believe will make it better, but protest is almost the definition of patriotism since it demonstrates that you are committed enough to improving things to stand up and be counted. If anyone is anti-British (in this case) it's those who meekly accept the status quo and therefore contribute nothing (or little) to society. Corbyn, simply by dint of being a party leader, cannot be anti British. Nor can the leaders of any party, whether I agree with their ideology or not.
Not sure he was actually spitting or throwing the eggs. What are these traditions that are ours, and what do you mean by 'likes our country'? I like the view of the New Forrest as Autumn claims the trees and the smell of salt on the air along the British coasts, but I don't like our political system which essentially is a biased two horse race that both winners manipulate to improve their chances - Am I still British? Clearly not if your spelling is anything to go by!
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Oct 15 1.16pm |
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Quote chris123 at 12 Oct 2015 1.13pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Oct 2015 12.57pm
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Quote sydtheeagle at 12 Oct 2015 11.16am
How is protesting in order to make your country what you believe to be a better place being anti your country? You might be wrong in terms of what you believe will make it better, but protest is almost the definition of patriotism since it demonstrates that you are committed enough to improving things to stand up and be counted. If anyone is anti-British (in this case) it's those who meekly accept the status quo and therefore contribute nothing (or little) to society. Corbyn, simply by dint of being a party leader, cannot be anti British. Nor can the leaders of any party, whether I agree with their ideology or not.
Not sure he was actually spitting or throwing the eggs. What are these traditions that are ours, and what do you mean by 'likes our country'? I like the view of the New Forrest as Autumn claims the trees and the smell of salt on the air along the British coasts, but I don't like our political system which essentially is a biased two horse race that both winners manipulate to improve their chances - Am I still British? Clearly not if your spelling is anything to go by! Touche, although I think it sums up our wonderful comprehensive education system.
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| chris123 hove actually 12 Oct 15 1.20pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Oct 2015 1.16pm
Quote chris123 at 12 Oct 2015 1.13pm
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Quote sydtheeagle at 12 Oct 2015 11.16am
How is protesting in order to make your country what you believe to be a better place being anti your country? You might be wrong in terms of what you believe will make it better, but protest is almost the definition of patriotism since it demonstrates that you are committed enough to improving things to stand up and be counted. If anyone is anti-British (in this case) it's those who meekly accept the status quo and therefore contribute nothing (or little) to society. Corbyn, simply by dint of being a party leader, cannot be anti British. Nor can the leaders of any party, whether I agree with their ideology or not.
Not sure he was actually spitting or throwing the eggs. What are these traditions that are ours, and what do you mean by 'likes our country'? I like the view of the New Forrest as Autumn claims the trees and the smell of salt on the air along the British coasts, but I don't like our political system which essentially is a biased two horse race that both winners manipulate to improve their chances - Am I still British? Clearly not if your spelling is anything to go by! Touche, although I think it sums up our wonderful comprehensive education system. Ok JM, and that wonderful British capacity for taking complete responsibility for oneself.
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 12 Oct 15 1.26pm |
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Quote sydtheeagle at 12 Oct 2015 11.16am
How is protesting in order to make your country what you believe to be a better place being anti your country? You might be wrong in terms of what you believe will make it better, but protest is almost the definition of patriotism since it demonstrates that you are committed enough to improving things to stand up and be counted. If anyone is anti-British (in this case) it's those who meekly accept the status quo and therefore contribute nothing (or little) to society. Corbyn, simply by dint of being a party leader, cannot be anti British. Nor can the leaders of any party, whether I agree with their ideology or not.
Anti abortion, gay rights, teachers, fireman, transport unions, anti islam, pro islam, Students. They all arguabley are protesting for what they want individually (as a group if that makes sense
"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'" |
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), not what is better for the country, but what is better for them, or what ever eases their own concience.| jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Oct 15 1.37pm |
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Quote chris123 at 12 Oct 2015 1.20pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Oct 2015 1.16pm
Quote chris123 at 12 Oct 2015 1.13pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Oct 2015 12.57pm
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Quote sydtheeagle at 12 Oct 2015 11.16am
How is protesting in order to make your country what you believe to be a better place being anti your country? You might be wrong in terms of what you believe will make it better, but protest is almost the definition of patriotism since it demonstrates that you are committed enough to improving things to stand up and be counted. If anyone is anti-British (in this case) it's those who meekly accept the status quo and therefore contribute nothing (or little) to society. Corbyn, simply by dint of being a party leader, cannot be anti British. Nor can the leaders of any party, whether I agree with their ideology or not.
Not sure he was actually spitting or throwing the eggs. What are these traditions that are ours, and what do you mean by 'likes our country'? I like the view of the New Forrest as Autumn claims the trees and the smell of salt on the air along the British coasts, but I don't like our political system which essentially is a biased two horse race that both winners manipulate to improve their chances - Am I still British? Clearly not if your spelling is anything to go by! Touche, although I think it sums up our wonderful comprehensive education system. Ok JM, and that wonderful British capacity for taking complete responsibility for oneself. That is so not a British trait, only the working class ever blame themselves. The other classes generally blame the working classes, unless they're racist. The audacity of the middle classes and upper working classes, criticizing the work ethic of people who actually do physical labour based work, is a corner stone of British tradition. Inherited by those who work in offices, who'll complain about people having 'shorter days', but failing to acknowledge that these people do a lot more than sit in meetings, send emails and type on keyboards.
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