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Quote Seth at 05 Nov 2015 6.11pm
Everything made by humans is of black origin, seeing as we descend from people who came out of Africa and were most definitely black. Which makes you all self-hating racists
You could equally credit one celled sea creatures. Today's music might have evolved from any number of places. Just because Africans have music and we all descended from Africans does not mean that contemporary music originated wholly or partly from Black people. That is presumption without any proof. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Nov 2015 9.10pm)
You have that one ? Back Stabbin' Blues and Vercingetorix Don't Got No Soul are my favorite tracks. I don't have it unfortunately, But I have got The Brutus Blues Album, Doesn't play well though. I dug it up from a field and the back of my house. I've also got Hadrian Marley, "No Legion, No Cry"
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Quote Mr Palaceman at 06 Nov 2015 1.37pm
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 06 Nov 2015 1.15pm
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 05 Nov 2015 9.04pm
Quote Seth at 05 Nov 2015 6.11pm
Everything made by humans is of black origin, seeing as we descend from people who came out of Africa and were most definitely black. Which makes you all self-hating racists
You could equally credit one celled sea creatures. Today's music might have evolved from any number of places. Just because Africans have music and we all descended from Africans does not mean that contemporary music originated wholly or partly from Black people. That is presumption without any proof. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Nov 2015 9.10pm)
You have that one ? Back Stabbin' Blues and Vercingetorix Don't Got No Soul are my favorite tracks. I don't have it unfortunately, But I have got The Brutus Blues Album, Doesn't play well though. I dug it up from a field and the back of my house. I've also got Hadrian Marley, "No Legion, No Cry"
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| Hoof Hearted 07 Nov 15 11.21am | |
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Seth  On a pale blue dot 07 Nov 15 11.50am |
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 05 Nov 2015 9.04pm
Quote Seth at 05 Nov 2015 6.11pm
Everything made by humans is of black origin, seeing as we descend from people who came out of Africa and were most definitely black. Which makes you all self-hating racists
You could equally credit one celled sea creatures. Today's music might have evolved from any number of places. Just because Africans have music and we all descended from Africans does not mean that contemporary music originated wholly or partly from Black people. That is presumption without any proof. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Nov 2015 9.10pm) Er no. I was talking about humans, not amoeba. That's why I said "Everything made by humans..." That humans originated in Africa is not a presumption. It is very well researched and evidenced in many studies. Therefore my assertion stands. EDIT: There were black Romans too anyway, but I'm not sure if they invented the Blues. Edited by Seth (07 Nov 2015 11.51am)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 07 Nov 15 12.43pm |
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Quote Seth at 07 Nov 2015 11.50am
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 05 Nov 2015 9.04pm
Quote Seth at 05 Nov 2015 6.11pm
Everything made by humans is of black origin, seeing as we descend from people who came out of Africa and were most definitely black. Which makes you all self-hating racists
You could equally credit one celled sea creatures. Today's music might have evolved from any number of places. Just because Africans have music and we all descended from Africans does not mean that contemporary music originated wholly or partly from Black people. That is presumption without any proof. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Nov 2015 9.10pm) Er no. I was talking about humans, not amoeba. That's why I said "Everything made by humans..." That humans originated in Africa is not a presumption. It is very well researched and evidenced in many studies. Therefore my assertion stands. EDIT: There were black Romans too anyway, but I'm not sure if they invented the Blues. Edited by Seth (07 Nov 2015 11.51am) You miss my point. You could argue that black people invented the telephone or discovered radium by the same logic. It doesn't wash. Prove that black people invented modern music. I dare you.
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| Seth On a pale blue dot 07 Nov 15 1.30pm |
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 07 Nov 2015 12.43pm
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Quote Seth at 05 Nov 2015 6.11pm
Everything made by humans is of black origin, seeing as we descend from people who came out of Africa and were most definitely black. Which makes you all self-hating racists
You could equally credit one celled sea creatures. Today's music might have evolved from any number of places. Just because Africans have music and we all descended from Africans does not mean that contemporary music originated wholly or partly from Black people. That is presumption without any proof. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Nov 2015 9.10pm) Er no. I was talking about humans, not amoeba. That's why I said "Everything made by humans..." That humans originated in Africa is not a presumption. It is very well researched and evidenced in many studies. Therefore my assertion stands. EDIT: There were black Romans too anyway, but I'm not sure if they invented the Blues. Edited by Seth (07 Nov 2015 11.51am) You miss my point. You could argue that black people invented the telephone or discovered radium by the same logic. It doesn't wash. Prove that black people invented modern music. I dare you.
If you are unable to even see that, there's not much point in going any further.
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| bilbo 07 Nov 15 1.38pm |
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A persons race becomes more central to their identity if it stands out. You get more grief for it and its highlighted a lot which then gives you a common experience with others in that group. That's why shows like this exist.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 07 Nov 15 1.47pm |
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Quote Seth at 07 Nov 2015 1.30pm
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Quote Seth at 05 Nov 2015 6.11pm
Everything made by humans is of black origin, seeing as we descend from people who came out of Africa and were most definitely black. Which makes you all self-hating racists
You could equally credit one celled sea creatures. Today's music might have evolved from any number of places. Just because Africans have music and we all descended from Africans does not mean that contemporary music originated wholly or partly from Black people. That is presumption without any proof. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Nov 2015 9.10pm) Er no. I was talking about humans, not amoeba. That's why I said "Everything made by humans..." That humans originated in Africa is not a presumption. It is very well researched and evidenced in many studies. Therefore my assertion stands. EDIT: There were black Romans too anyway, but I'm not sure if they invented the Blues. Edited by Seth (07 Nov 2015 11.51am) You miss my point. You could argue that black people invented the telephone or discovered radium by the same logic. It doesn't wash. Prove that black people invented modern music. I dare you.
If you are unable to even see that, there's not much point in going any further. I'm sorry but you don't seem to grasp what I am saying. I couldn't be more clear.
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| Seth On a pale blue dot 07 Nov 15 1.57pm |
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 07 Nov 2015 1.47pm
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 07 Nov 2015 12.43pm
Quote Seth at 07 Nov 2015 11.50am
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 05 Nov 2015 9.04pm
Quote Seth at 05 Nov 2015 6.11pm
Everything made by humans is of black origin, seeing as we descend from people who came out of Africa and were most definitely black. Which makes you all self-hating racists
You could equally credit one celled sea creatures. Today's music might have evolved from any number of places. Just because Africans have music and we all descended from Africans does not mean that contemporary music originated wholly or partly from Black people. That is presumption without any proof. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Nov 2015 9.10pm) Er no. I was talking about humans, not amoeba. That's why I said "Everything made by humans..." That humans originated in Africa is not a presumption. It is very well researched and evidenced in many studies. Therefore my assertion stands. EDIT: There were black Romans too anyway, but I'm not sure if they invented the Blues. Edited by Seth (07 Nov 2015 11.51am) You miss my point. You could argue that black people invented the telephone or discovered radium by the same logic. It doesn't wash. Prove that black people invented modern music. I dare you.
If you are unable to even see that, there's not much point in going any further. I'm sorry but you don't seem to grasp what I am saying. I couldn't be more clear.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 07 Nov 15 2.17pm |
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Quote Seth at 07 Nov 2015 1.57pm
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 07 Nov 2015 1.47pm
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 05 Nov 2015 9.04pm
Quote Seth at 05 Nov 2015 6.11pm
Everything made by humans is of black origin, seeing as we descend from people who came out of Africa and were most definitely black. Which makes you all self-hating racists
You could equally credit one celled sea creatures. Today's music might have evolved from any number of places. Just because Africans have music and we all descended from Africans does not mean that contemporary music originated wholly or partly from Black people. That is presumption without any proof. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Nov 2015 9.10pm) Er no. I was talking about humans, not amoeba. That's why I said "Everything made by humans..." That humans originated in Africa is not a presumption. It is very well researched and evidenced in many studies. Therefore my assertion stands. EDIT: There were black Romans too anyway, but I'm not sure if they invented the Blues. Edited by Seth (07 Nov 2015 11.51am) You miss my point. You could argue that black people invented the telephone or discovered radium by the same logic. It doesn't wash. Prove that black people invented modern music. I dare you.
If you are unable to even see that, there's not much point in going any further. I'm sorry but you don't seem to grasp what I am saying. I couldn't be more clear.
Your original point was nonsense. That was the problem. To say all human made things are of black origin because all people were once black is simplt flawed logic and secondly, you can't even prove the seemingly obvious assertion that all humans were once black. Nobody knows for sure, and in any case, that has nothing to do with who invented what. Your logic is barmy.
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| Seth On a pale blue dot 07 Nov 15 2.45pm |
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 07 Nov 2015 2.17pm
Your original point was nonsense. That was the problem. To say all human made things are of black origin because all people were once black is simplt flawed logic and secondly, you can't even prove the seemingly obvious assertion that all humans were once black. Nobody knows for sure, and in any case, that has nothing to do with who invented what. Your logic is barmy. Nobody knows for sure? Don't take my word for it: Dark skin All modern humans share a common ancestor who lived around 200,000 years ago in Africa.[20] Comparisons between known skin pigmentation genes in chimpanzees and modern Africans show that dark skin evolved along with the loss of body hair about 1.2 million years ago and is the ancestral state of all humans.[21] Investigations into dark skinned populations in South Asia and Melanesia indicate that skin pigmentation in these populations is due to the preservation of this ancestral state and not due to new variations on a previously lightened population.[8][22] Hence the leading hypothesis for the evolution of human skin color proposes that: From about 1.2 million years ago to less than 100,000 years ago, archaic humans, including archaic Homo sapiens, were dark-skinned.
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 07 Nov 2015 12.43pm
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Quote Seth at 05 Nov 2015 6.11pm
Everything made by humans is of black origin, seeing as we descend from people who came out of Africa and were most definitely black. Which makes you all self-hating racists
You could equally credit one celled sea creatures. Today's music might have evolved from any number of places. Just because Africans have music and we all descended from Africans does not mean that contemporary music originated wholly or partly from Black people. That is presumption without any proof. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Nov 2015 9.10pm) Er no. I was talking about humans, not amoeba. That's why I said "Everything made by humans..." That humans originated in Africa is not a presumption. It is very well researched and evidenced in many studies. Therefore my assertion stands. EDIT: There were black Romans too anyway, but I'm not sure if they invented the Blues. Edited by Seth (07 Nov 2015 11.51am) You miss my point. You could argue that black people invented the telephone or discovered radium by the same logic. It doesn't wash. Prove that black people invented modern music. I dare you. Just the good stuff. I think its kind of hard to doubt that genres such as Jazz, Rock, Rock N Roll, Blues, Soul and Disco were pioneered and pushed forwards by black artists into a white audience that then embraced them. Genres such as Funk, Hip Hop, Rap, Detroit House music and also revolutionised music again throughout a more modern period. When I think Jazz and Blues (arguably the two most influential of genres) I think Billie Holiday, Miles Davis, Robert Johnson, Lead Belly, Muddy Waters, Blind Lemon, John Coltraine, rather than... Eric Clapton and Glenn Miller. Elvis might have been the king of rock and roll, but he was really just playing black music to white kids, as were the Stones and Beatles when they both started out. That's not to say white music was entirely non-contributory (Country music for example), but that modern music really stems from the influence of the 50s and 60s adaptation of black influences. Of course the real pioneer was Patti Page and Frankie Laine.
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