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Quote -TUX- at 22 Nov 2015 6.41pm

A representation of Islamic UK attitudes 2015

A pointless thread tbh.

When has that stopped anyone?

 


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Quote Stirlingsays at 22 Nov 2015 6.18pm

The media highlight black deaths by white cops for example but you hear very little when the opposite scenario happens.

The media sell to people's prejudges because that's what attracts attention and hence money.

The bots get more and more lifelike.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 23 Nov 15 10.28am

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Quote Kermit8 at 22 Nov 2015 2.53pm

I think what they tell us, which any rational person would have known anyway, is that the vast majority of UK Muslims are normal people just going about their day and want no truck with the nutters, don't belong to their sect, and can't relate to them one jot.

The only seriously questionable one for me is the one about Imans and violence toward the West. I wish they had broken it down. Are they talking about genuine state military action against aggressors or terrorism? Bit perplexed with that one tbh.

How's your head feeling in that sand Kermy?

Eleven percent of a population of millions supporting the fight against their own society is a very serious problem.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Nov 2015 3.04pm)

Much lower than I expected. It seems high, but its actually quite a low figure, statistically speaking, because the relevant interest is those among those 11% who actually would do something about it (certainly less than 1% of Muslim population has gone to join IS).

Plenty of people in the UK and on here, have reflected that the country needs a revolution, but that doesn't mean they'll do anything about it.

Of course you do need to keep 'an eye' on that 11%, but you have to also remember than most of them 'are hot air' arguably those who would do something, wouldn't respond to a poll that would put them in the 11%.


 


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Hoof Hearted 23 Nov 15 11.08am

Quote Kermit8 at 22 Nov 2015 3.17pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 22 Nov 2015 3.02pm

Quote Kermit8 at 22 Nov 2015 2.53pm

I think what they tell us, which any rational person would have known anyway, is that the vast majority of UK Muslims are normal people just going about their day and want no truck with the nutters, don't belong to their sect, and can't relate to them one jot.

The only seriously questionable one for me is the one about Imans and violence toward the West. I wish they had broken it down. Are they talking about genuine state military action against aggressors or terrorism? Bit perplexed with that one tbh.

How's your head feeling in that sand Kermy?

Eleven percent of a population of millions supporting the fight against their own society is a very serious problem.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Nov 2015 3.04pm)


Well let's stick up for the 89% then to make sure that the 11% does not go any higher.


I wonder why the 11% continue to live here amongst us when clearly our lifestyle and beliefs are so abhorrent to them?

Then I remember that they are here for themselves not wishing to add anything to our collective society and living in their own little enclaves speaking their own language, building their mosques and despising us. They know their rate of birth will outstrip ours, so they play the waiting game until the balance of power through numbers tips in their favour.

Our only hope Kermit is that the 89% does in fact increase because the 11% are a real problem right now, but we aint seen nothing yet!

 

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Catfish Flag Burgess Hill 23 Nov 15 11.27am

Dontcha love stats.

If theer are 2,700,000 Muslims in England and Wales then the 11% who approve of action to fight against western interests is 297,000. It would be unreasonable to say that all of these were radical or dangerously radical. Let's say that just 0.5% of that sub-group have extreme views. That is only about 4000 lunatics - that's OK then.

 


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Hoof Hearted 23 Nov 15 11.32am

Quote Catfish at 23 Nov 2015 11.27am

Dontcha love stats.

If theer are 2,700,000 Muslims in England and Wales then the 11% who approve of action to fight against western interests is 297,000. It would be unreasonable to say that all of these were radical or dangerously radical. Let's say that just 0.5% of that sub-group have extreme views. That is only about 4000 lunatics - that's OK then.


Exactly..... 4000 FFS.

Just think of the carnage 40 could do, let alone 400 or 4000 as the figures suggest!

Scary.

 

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View dannyh's Profile dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 23 Nov 15 11.42am Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

Thing is Hoof, I remember going to pubs in N.London in the early ninties to watch bands and get very drunk indeed, and their would be collection buckets handed round some of the unsavoury pubs collecting money for "the cause" which was just another way of saying the IRA.

Nobody did f*** all about that, never made the press, no one said anything about it really, in that area it was common practice.

It just makes me think to what level support for these ISIS wnakers is going on in Islamic strongholds like east and North London, and certain parts of North England (and I include Bedford in North England )

I just hope it's not as widespread and as casually accepted now, as it was back then.

 


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Quote Hoof Hearted at 23 Nov 2015 11.32am

Quote Catfish at 23 Nov 2015 11.27am

Dontcha love stats.

If theer are 2,700,000 Muslims in England and Wales then the 11% who approve of action to fight against western interests is 297,000. It would be unreasonable to say that all of these were radical or dangerously radical. Let's say that just 0.5% of that sub-group have extreme views. That is only about 4000 lunatics - that's OK then.


Exactly..... 4000 FFS.

Just think of the carnage 40 could do, let alone 400 or 4000 as the figures suggest!

Scary.


But that's a completely fabricated number, so no, the figures don't suggest that at all.

 

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AlexTheGreat Flag 23 Nov 15 11.58am

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Quote AlexTheGreat at 23 Nov 2015 11.58am

All religion needs to be wiped off this planet, but people are too scared or brainwashed themselves.
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It seems to be culturally acceptable for minority religions in the UK to only marry fellow followers and to be able to actively dissuade or even abandon anyone in their family who does not abide by the rules - however, I cannot imagine for the life of me that I would get the same understanding from people if I said my family wouldn't allow me to marry someone based on their religion or race.

 


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I refuse to be concerned about terrorism until I am statistically more likely to be blown up than to be hit by a car. Atm, despite the media's best attempts, I'm not having any sleepless nights.

 


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Hoof Hearted 23 Nov 15 12.22pm

Quote EverybodyDannsNow at 23 Nov 2015 11.42am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 23 Nov 2015 11.32am

Quote Catfish at 23 Nov 2015 11.27am

Dontcha love stats.

If theer are 2,700,000 Muslims in England and Wales then the 11% who approve of action to fight against western interests is 297,000. It would be unreasonable to say that all of these were radical or dangerously radical. Let's say that just 0.5% of that sub-group have extreme views. That is only about 4000 lunatics - that's OK then.


Exactly..... 4000 FFS.

Just think of the carnage 40 could do, let alone 400 or 4000 as the figures suggest!

Scary.


But that's a completely fabricated number, so no, the figures don't suggest that at all.


I should have said as "your figures suggest" referring to Catfish' very modest assumptions (of 0.5% of the 11% of Muslims who approved of action to fight being dangerous) to arrive at that figure.

You obviously aren't worried by this possibility....

Okay, they might be "fabricated" figures but still scary to a lot of us!

 

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