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Are the police in any country well known for writing reports that admit they were not up to scratch? Or totally useless, according to the witnesses and victims. And at 08.57 am the day after, do you think they will have known the full extent of events that night? Let alone that it also occurred in other German cities? It takes 20-50 years for victims of abuse to report some events and they're all immediately taken as being credible. Yet you doubt over 90 odd official complaints to the police (including one by a policewoman) within hours of each other.
I didn't really read it, as it's pretty irrelevant, but presume it's just a google translate job? Nick seems to think that him finding that means all the news reports, police complaints and subsequent protests are all just a pack of lies, embellishment or simply media hysteria. Or at least that's the angle I think he's working from, I may be wrong. I'm sure I wrote tghat the truth lies somewhere between what the police and the nedia say,. But as usual, you chose to ignore that which is pretty par for the course for you stuk. As it is, latest I've heard was that the grabbing of arses and tits was a ruse to allow pickpocketing to take place. Happened to one of my dad's mates many years ago. A salt put her hands on his genitals whilst her mate half inched his wallet!
"Seems very different to other reports, surely 1000 men raping people would appear on there somewhere" When you over-exaggerate something so vastly and your, now discredited, police report under-exaggerates, of course the truth will be someone between. I ignored it due to it being nonsense. Move on, nothing happened. Nick has decided so. Your ability to exonerate and be outraged by very similar crimes, depending on who is accused of carrying them out is totally warped. Only a bit of groping and robbing, like that makes it any better...
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| Mapletree Croydon 07 Jan 16 3.04pm |
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It seems likely at least one woman was raped and countless were scared witless by sexual touching. I do think there was a deep undercurrent of what the feminists call male pattern violence. Even if it was a smokescreen for other crimes it was clearly remorseless and brutal. As so well articulated in Not the Nine O'Clock News, the only way to deal with these people is to chop their goolies off. As 'debated' on the unmentionable post I think it's unlikely that these were the recent refugees by the way. Apparently many were already known to the Police. It's a shame that the genuinely needy and desperate refugee families are likely to be tainted by this.
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| johnfirewall 07 Jan 16 3.10pm |
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Interestingly sex mob is the same in German. Plenty of accounts from police quoted in the media, which in fact seem to be where most are coming from although the 'I'm Syrian, you must treat me kindly, Mrs Merkel invited me' sounds a bit suspect. Still 0.1% of migrants forming a mob isn't many. Edited by johnfirewall (07 Jan 2016 3.13pm)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Jan 16 3.35pm |
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Quote Stuk at 07 Jan 2016 2.48pm
Quote nickgusset at 07 Jan 2016 2.13pm
Quote Stuk at 07 Jan 2016 1.55pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 07 Jan 2016 1.39pm
Quote Stuk at 07 Jan 2016 1.26pm
Are the police in any country well known for writing reports that admit they were not up to scratch? Or totally useless, according to the witnesses and victims. And at 08.57 am the day after, do you think they will have known the full extent of events that night? Let alone that it also occurred in other German cities? It takes 20-50 years for victims of abuse to report some events and they're all immediately taken as being credible. Yet you doubt over 90 odd official complaints to the police (including one by a policewoman) within hours of each other.
I didn't really read it, as it's pretty irrelevant, but presume it's just a google translate job? Nick seems to think that him finding that means all the news reports, police complaints and subsequent protests are all just a pack of lies, embellishment or simply media hysteria. Or at least that's the angle I think he's working from, I may be wrong. I'm sure I wrote tghat the truth lies somewhere between what the police and the nedia say,. But as usual, you chose to ignore that which is pretty par for the course for you stuk. As it is, latest I've heard was that the grabbing of arses and tits was a ruse to allow pickpocketing to take place. Happened to one of my dad's mates many years ago. A salt put her hands on his genitals whilst her mate half inched his wallet!
"Seems very different to other reports, surely 1000 men raping people would appear on there somewhere" When you over-exaggerate something so vastly and your, now discredited, police report under-exaggerates, of course the truth will be someone between. I ignored it due to it being nonsense. Move on, nothing happened. Nick has decided so. Your ability to exonerate and be outraged by very similar crimes, depending on who is accused of carrying them out is totally warped. Only a bit of groping and robbing, like that makes it any better... I didn't say nothing happened did I. Stop being a knob!
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| Stuk Top half 07 Jan 16 3.45pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 07 Jan 2016 3.35pm
Quote Stuk at 07 Jan 2016 2.48pm
Quote nickgusset at 07 Jan 2016 2.13pm
Quote Stuk at 07 Jan 2016 1.55pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 07 Jan 2016 1.39pm
Quote Stuk at 07 Jan 2016 1.26pm
Are the police in any country well known for writing reports that admit they were not up to scratch? Or totally useless, according to the witnesses and victims. And at 08.57 am the day after, do you think they will have known the full extent of events that night? Let alone that it also occurred in other German cities? It takes 20-50 years for victims of abuse to report some events and they're all immediately taken as being credible. Yet you doubt over 90 odd official complaints to the police (including one by a policewoman) within hours of each other.
I didn't really read it, as it's pretty irrelevant, but presume it's just a google translate job? Nick seems to think that him finding that means all the news reports, police complaints and subsequent protests are all just a pack of lies, embellishment or simply media hysteria. Or at least that's the angle I think he's working from, I may be wrong. I'm sure I wrote tghat the truth lies somewhere between what the police and the nedia say,. But as usual, you chose to ignore that which is pretty par for the course for you stuk. As it is, latest I've heard was that the grabbing of arses and tits was a ruse to allow pickpocketing to take place. Happened to one of my dad's mates many years ago. A salt put her hands on his genitals whilst her mate half inched his wallet!
"Seems very different to other reports, surely 1000 men raping people would appear on there somewhere" When you over-exaggerate something so vastly and your, now discredited, police report under-exaggerates, of course the truth will be someone between. I ignored it due to it being nonsense. Move on, nothing happened. Nick has decided so. Your ability to exonerate and be outraged by very similar crimes, depending on who is accused of carrying them out is totally warped. Only a bit of groping and robbing, like that makes it any better... I didn't say nothing happened did I. Stop being a knob! Ask the women involved, or their friends and relatives, and I reckon they'd be saying you're the knob with your warped view of this. I'd like to know what you'd think if they were related to you? Only a bit of robbing and groping by a large group after all. Wouldn't be at all scary or traumatic for them, would it...
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 07 Jan 16 3.58pm |
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Quote Mapletree at 07 Jan 2016 3.04pm
It seems likely at least one woman was raped and countless were scared witless by sexual touching. I do think there was a deep undercurrent of what the feminists call male pattern violence. Even if it was a smokescreen for other crimes it was clearly remorseless and brutal. As so well articulated in Not the Nine O'Clock News, the only way to deal with these people is to chop their goolies off. As 'debated' on the unmentionable post I think it's unlikely that these were the recent refugees by the way. Apparently many were already known to the Police. It's a shame that the genuinely needy and desperate refugee families are likely to be tainted by this. I promise to play nice this time I think it's been accepted that these men ( I use the term loosely ) were not straight off a boat from Syria. However they were all of Arabic or North African appearance/decent, now just so we don’t go tip toeing close to old ground, I am not saying that the whole of Germanys black and Arabic population are swivel eyed rapists. BUT it simply can not be denied that the countries these people come from have a very different attitude towards women, (as I cited in the thread that shall not be named.) Lesser examples of women being second to men in a lot of ethnic cultures is apparent by any walk through Fort Neef on any given day, the women will be walking behind the men lumbered with all the shopping and kids. Moving on from that, 1000 men didn’t just individually all wake up new years eve and feel a bit rapey, this was an organised attack planned and orchestrated by scum bags, that just happened to be migrants from countries with piss poor human rights records let alone their treatment of women. Whether that had anything to do with there COLLECTIVE decision is a question that I have my answer to, no doubt it will differ from others. But opinions are like arseholes everyone has one, but some stink and are full of s***.
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| Mapletree Croydon 07 Jan 16 4.29pm |
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Quote dannyh at 07 Jan 2016 3.58pm
Quote Mapletree at 07 Jan 2016 3.04pm
It seems likely at least one woman was raped and countless were scared witless by sexual touching. I do think there was a deep undercurrent of what the feminists call male pattern violence. Even if it was a smokescreen for other crimes it was clearly remorseless and brutal. As so well articulated in Not the Nine O'Clock News, the only way to deal with these people is to chop their goolies off. As 'debated' on the unmentionable post I think it's unlikely that these were the recent refugees by the way. Apparently many were already known to the Police. It's a shame that the genuinely needy and desperate refugee families are likely to be tainted by this. I promise to play nice this time I think it's been accepted that these men ( I use the term loosely ) were not straight off a boat from Syria. However they were all of Arabic or North African appearance/decent, now just so we don’t go tip toeing close to old ground, I am not saying that the whole of Germanys black and Arabic population are swivel eyed rapists. BUT it simply can not be denied that the countries these people come from have a very different attitude towards women, (as I cited in the thread that shall not be named.) Lesser examples of women being second to men in a lot of ethnic cultures is apparent by any walk through Fort Neef on any given day, the women will be walking behind the men lumbered with all the shopping and kids. Moving on from that, 1000 men didn’t just individually all wake up new years eve and feel a bit rapey, this was an organised attack planned and orchestrated by scum bags, that just happened to be migrants from countries with piss poor human rights records let alone their treatment of women. Whether that had anything to do with there COLLECTIVE decision is a question that I have my answer to, no doubt it will differ from others. But opinions are like arseholes everyone has one, but some stink and are full of s***.
I am guessing these animals were largely Moroccan as that seems to be where the German immigrants from North Africa came from in the past few years. I have no personal knowledge of Morocco but have heard it's not all sweetness and light. On the other hand I have good experiences of Levantine people such as Syrians. So my points were/are: 1 I hope the Syrian refugees don't get tarred with this brush
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Jan 16 4.38pm |
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Quote Stuk at 07 Jan 2016 3.45pm
Quote nickgusset at 07 Jan 2016 3.35pm
Quote Stuk at 07 Jan 2016 2.48pm
Quote nickgusset at 07 Jan 2016 2.13pm
Quote Stuk at 07 Jan 2016 1.55pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 07 Jan 2016 1.39pm
Quote Stuk at 07 Jan 2016 1.26pm
Are the police in any country well known for writing reports that admit they were not up to scratch? Or totally useless, according to the witnesses and victims. And at 08.57 am the day after, do you think they will have known the full extent of events that night? Let alone that it also occurred in other German cities? It takes 20-50 years for victims of abuse to report some events and they're all immediately taken as being credible. Yet you doubt over 90 odd official complaints to the police (including one by a policewoman) within hours of each other.
I didn't really read it, as it's pretty irrelevant, but presume it's just a google translate job? Nick seems to think that him finding that means all the news reports, police complaints and subsequent protests are all just a pack of lies, embellishment or simply media hysteria. Or at least that's the angle I think he's working from, I may be wrong. I'm sure I wrote tghat the truth lies somewhere between what the police and the nedia say,. But as usual, you chose to ignore that which is pretty par for the course for you stuk. As it is, latest I've heard was that the grabbing of arses and tits was a ruse to allow pickpocketing to take place. Happened to one of my dad's mates many years ago. A salt put her hands on his genitals whilst her mate half inched his wallet!
"Seems very different to other reports, surely 1000 men raping people would appear on there somewhere" When you over-exaggerate something so vastly and your, now discredited, police report under-exaggerates, of course the truth will be someone between. I ignored it due to it being nonsense. Move on, nothing happened. Nick has decided so. Your ability to exonerate and be outraged by very similar crimes, depending on who is accused of carrying them out is totally warped. Only a bit of groping and robbing, like that makes it any better... I didn't say nothing happened did I. Stop being a knob! Ask the women involved, or their friends and relatives, and I reckon they'd be saying you're the knob with your warped view of this. I'd like to know what you'd think if they were related to you? Only a bit of robbing and groping by a large group after all. Wouldn't be at all scary or traumatic for them, would it...
Secondly, at the time of posting the link to the police report, it had not been discredited, I was not to know this at the time. How is not accepting all of what the media, or indeed the police report as 'truth' a warped view? I've already said the truth will lie somewhere inbetween.
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 07 Jan 16 4.53pm |
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Quote Mapletree at 07 Jan 2016 4.29pm
Quote dannyh at 07 Jan 2016 3.58pm
Quote Mapletree at 07 Jan 2016 3.04pm
It seems likely at least one woman was raped and countless were scared witless by sexual touching. I do think there was a deep undercurrent of what the feminists call male pattern violence. Even if it was a smokescreen for other crimes it was clearly remorseless and brutal. As so well articulated in Not the Nine O'Clock News, the only way to deal with these people is to chop their goolies off. As 'debated' on the unmentionable post I think it's unlikely that these were the recent refugees by the way. Apparently many were already known to the Police. It's a shame that the genuinely needy and desperate refugee families are likely to be tainted by this. I promise to play nice this time I think it's been accepted that these men ( I use the term loosely ) were not straight off a boat from Syria. However they were all of Arabic or North African appearance/decent, now just so we don’t go tip toeing close to old ground, I am not saying that the whole of Germanys black and Arabic population are swivel eyed rapists. BUT it simply can not be denied that the countries these people come from have a very different attitude towards women, (as I cited in the thread that shall not be named.) Lesser examples of women being second to men in a lot of ethnic cultures is apparent by any walk through Fort Neef on any given day, the women will be walking behind the men lumbered with all the shopping and kids. Moving on from that, 1000 men didn’t just individually all wake up new years eve and feel a bit rapey, this was an organised attack planned and orchestrated by scum bags, that just happened to be migrants from countries with piss poor human rights records let alone their treatment of women. Whether that had anything to do with there COLLECTIVE decision is a question that I have my answer to, no doubt it will differ from others. But opinions are like arseholes everyone has one, but some stink and are full of s***.
I am guessing these animals were largely Moroccan as that seems to be where the German immigrants from North Africa came from in the past few years. I have no personal knowledge of Morocco but have heard it's not all sweetness and light. On the other hand I have good experiences of Levantine people such as Syrians. So my points were/are: 1 I hope the Syrian refugees don't get tarred with this brush Maybe not solely, but it sure as hell doesn’t help matters when their holy book endorses second class status for it's women folk.
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| Stuk Top half 07 Jan 16 5.12pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 07 Jan 2016 4.38pm
Quote Stuk at 07 Jan 2016 3.45pm
Quote nickgusset at 07 Jan 2016 3.35pm
Quote Stuk at 07 Jan 2016 2.48pm
Quote nickgusset at 07 Jan 2016 2.13pm
Quote Stuk at 07 Jan 2016 1.55pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 07 Jan 2016 1.39pm
Quote Stuk at 07 Jan 2016 1.26pm
Are the police in any country well known for writing reports that admit they were not up to scratch? Or totally useless, according to the witnesses and victims. And at 08.57 am the day after, do you think they will have known the full extent of events that night? Let alone that it also occurred in other German cities? It takes 20-50 years for victims of abuse to report some events and they're all immediately taken as being credible. Yet you doubt over 90 odd official complaints to the police (including one by a policewoman) within hours of each other.
I didn't really read it, as it's pretty irrelevant, but presume it's just a google translate job? Nick seems to think that him finding that means all the news reports, police complaints and subsequent protests are all just a pack of lies, embellishment or simply media hysteria. Or at least that's the angle I think he's working from, I may be wrong. I'm sure I wrote tghat the truth lies somewhere between what the police and the nedia say,. But as usual, you chose to ignore that which is pretty par for the course for you stuk. As it is, latest I've heard was that the grabbing of arses and tits was a ruse to allow pickpocketing to take place. Happened to one of my dad's mates many years ago. A salt put her hands on his genitals whilst her mate half inched his wallet!
"Seems very different to other reports, surely 1000 men raping people would appear on there somewhere" When you over-exaggerate something so vastly and your, now discredited, police report under-exaggerates, of course the truth will be someone between. I ignored it due to it being nonsense. Move on, nothing happened. Nick has decided so. Your ability to exonerate and be outraged by very similar crimes, depending on who is accused of carrying them out is totally warped. Only a bit of groping and robbing, like that makes it any better... I didn't say nothing happened did I. Stop being a knob! Ask the women involved, or their friends and relatives, and I reckon they'd be saying you're the knob with your warped view of this. I'd like to know what you'd think if they were related to you? Only a bit of robbing and groping by a large group after all. Wouldn't be at all scary or traumatic for them, would it...
Secondly, at the time of posting the link to the police report, it had not been discredited, I was not to know this at the time. How is not accepting all of what the media, or indeed the police report as 'truth' a warped view? I've already said the truth will lie somewhere inbetween. Not a false argument, you've repeatedly acted as though it's no big deal and it very much is. Like I said, imagine if they were your family or friends. Take that comment up with whoever said it, not with me when I've not said anything of the like. As for the police report, it took me all of half a minute to realise it was bulls*** (the fact you've posted something normally means the detector goes off in a couple of seconds), who has a full and accurate report in less than a few hours after the event? And what police force in the world puts out statements that admit they've been next to useless? You don't accept what's widely reported, witnessed and corroborated in multiple countries and their media's, but you blindly believe the ridiculous amount of things and links that you have a tendency to post. You couldn't make it up.
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| Mapletree Croydon 07 Jan 16 5.21pm |
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Woo hoo, it seems it's the season for full on arguments. Personally I blame the influence of UKIP... Edited by Mapletree (07 Jan 2016 6.09pm)
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