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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 11 Jan 16 1.01pm

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You've taken a hammering about Corbyn and Cologne so I guess the purpose of this thread is to puff your lefty chest out again......... LOLZ


I think that the fact that the BNP can't stand in elections is pretty good news. No chest puffing.


But as others have pointed out, the void has already been filled.

Much to your delight .

Yes I'm glad that you lefty fruitcakes still have the type of opposition you deserve.


Can I conclude then that you are delighted that there are racist political parties?


Race has nothing to do with it. Racism is a tool the lib;left use try and win arguments. It is also a tool that minorities use to serve themselves.
There is no race beyond the human race but prejudice can arise for many reasons. I would be very surprised if any of those were really about skin colour or genes.

I don't think its that reliable to say that the BNP wasn't a racist party though, given their history of ethnic exclusion, and prejudice that was central to their policy on 'repatronisation' and membership.



Racism is far too lazy a word for a much more complex situation. I'm not sure why people keep discussing the BNP anyway. They are an irrelevance.

I'm not so sure it was particularly complex for the BNP per se. An irrelevance, not really, not that long ago they were winning seats in councils and even the European MP's. They've largely been rendered irrelevant by the rise of Britain First and the English Defence League (both of whom are stylised along a kind of neo-fascist sans style but with more ignorance than you can shake a stick at). It used to be the case that Nazis and Fascists actually could actually debate, argue and dress well. These pale imitations are more 'trouble seekers' than political.

More notably, UKIP has monopolised a lot of those voters that these groups have been prying away: those with more genuine concerns about immigration, euro skeptics and nationalist who aren't 'militant' styling - people abandoned by all three mainstream parties cosying up with business interests over national interests. UKIP unfairly sometimes get lumped in with the far right (as opposed to generally being further right - i.e to the right of the main stream conservatives).

I agree with some political aspects associated with the right wing, such as immigration control - all systems need regulation - but for groups like the BNP the issue has never really been about immigration - its been about 'where the migrant comes from' rather than what they can contribute to society.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 11 Jan 16 1.11pm

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Goodbye BNP. Hello Britain First.


I don't profess to knowing too much about 'Britain First' however I do know that thy have stated categorically that "Race" does not feature in their policies or outlook and that often their meetings are attended by people from an ethnic minority background.In fact they invite those from ethnic backgrounds to join their ranks.

Edited by Willo (10 Jan 2016 3.01pm)

Christian Fundamentalist (read UDA imitators) militant organisation that consists of the kind of mentally retarded people who proudly parade 'Extremists against Extremism' banners, without any sense of irony. EDL league without the fun, kind of like UDA clothed by Mormonism (but with worse haircuts).

Also have ties to the nastier side of Northern Irish Loyalists. Known also as being less than benign towards women's rights.

Its unsure whether they are genuine or satire. If the Nazi Party were made up of idiot, bible thumpers who were banned from C&A from Shoplifting, you'd have Britain First.


 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 11 Jan 2016 1.01pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 11 Jan 2016 12.35pm

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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 09 Jan 2016 12.24pm

Quote nickgusset at 09 Jan 2016 12.18pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 09 Jan 2016 12.02pm

Quote nickgusset at 09 Jan 2016 11.57am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 09 Jan 2016 11.53am

Quote nickgusset at 09 Jan 2016 11.49am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 09 Jan 2016 11.45am

You've taken a hammering about Corbyn and Cologne so I guess the purpose of this thread is to puff your lefty chest out again......... LOLZ


I think that the fact that the BNP can't stand in elections is pretty good news. No chest puffing.


But as others have pointed out, the void has already been filled.

Much to your delight .

Yes I'm glad that you lefty fruitcakes still have the type of opposition you deserve.


Can I conclude then that you are delighted that there are racist political parties?


Race has nothing to do with it. Racism is a tool the lib;left use try and win arguments. It is also a tool that minorities use to serve themselves.
There is no race beyond the human race but prejudice can arise for many reasons. I would be very surprised if any of those were really about skin colour or genes.

I don't think its that reliable to say that the BNP wasn't a racist party though, given their history of ethnic exclusion, and prejudice that was central to their policy on 'repatronisation' and membership.



Racism is far too lazy a word for a much more complex situation. I'm not sure why people keep discussing the BNP anyway. They are an irrelevance.

I'm not so sure it was particularly complex for the BNP per se. An irrelevance, not really, not that long ago they were winning seats in councils and even the European MP's. They've largely been rendered irrelevant by the rise of Britain First and the English Defence League (both of whom are stylised along a kind of neo-fascist sans style but with more ignorance than you can shake a stick at). It used to be the case that Nazis and Fascists actually could actually debate, argue and dress well. These pale imitations are more 'trouble seekers' than political.

More notably, UKIP has monopolised a lot of those voters that these groups have been prying away: those with more genuine concerns about immigration, euro skeptics and nationalist who aren't 'militant' styling - people abandoned by all three mainstream parties cosying up with business interests over national interests. UKIP unfairly sometimes get lumped in with the far right (as opposed to generally being further right - i.e to the right of the main stream conservatives).

I agree with some political aspects associated with the right wing, such as immigration control - all systems need regulation - but for groups like the BNP the issue has never really been about immigration - its been about 'where the migrant comes from' rather than what they can contribute to society.


What you say is largely true but I have a problem with the whole concept of racism and what it actually means.
I can't really read the minds of other people and it is particularly hard to grasp or even care about the though processes of such limited intellects like those of many BNP members.

 

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Quote Willo at 10 Jan 2016 2.58pm

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Goodbye BNP. Hello Britain First.


I don't profess to knowing too much about 'Britain First' however I do know that thy have stated categorically that "Race" does not feature in their policies or outlook and that often their meetings are attended by people from an ethnic minority background.In fact they invite those from ethnic backgrounds to join their ranks.

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If Britian first is not racist then why have they been banned from facebook?

 

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Quote Willo at 10 Jan 2016 2.58pm

Quote collier ro eagle at 09 Jan 2016 12.03pm

Goodbye BNP. Hello Britain First.


I don't profess to knowing too much about 'Britain First' however I do know that thy have stated categorically that "Race" does not feature in their policies or outlook and that often their meetings are attended by people from an ethnic minority background.In fact they invite those from ethnic backgrounds to join their ranks.

Edited by Willo (10 Jan 2016 3.01pm)


If Britian first is not racist then why have they been banned from facebook?


I know next to nothing about them but I'd imagine that Facebook bowed to pressure to maintain their image and appear PC. Let's be honest, they would be accused of "racism" whether they were racist or not. Robust patriotism and outspoken objections to mass immigration is branded "racist" by many if the protagonists are white.

It's all about point of view I suppose.

 

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Quote black eagle. at 11 Jan 2016 1.28pm

Quote Willo at 10 Jan 2016 2.58pm

Quote collier ro eagle at 09 Jan 2016 12.03pm

Goodbye BNP. Hello Britain First.


I don't profess to knowing too much about 'Britain First' however I do know that thy have stated categorically that "Race" does not feature in their policies or outlook and that often their meetings are attended by people from an ethnic minority background.In fact they invite those from ethnic backgrounds to join their ranks.

Edited by Willo (10 Jan 2016 3.01pm)


If Britian first is not racist then why have they been banned from facebook?


They're not banned from Facebook. And what's more, their page has almost 1.2m 'likes'.

Edited by Cucking Funt (11 Jan 2016 1.50pm)

 


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Britain First? They harangue law-abiding small business proprieters who happen to be Muslim and Asian - like restaurant owners - so, unfortunately, they do appear to be, at the very least, bigots.

They unwisely allowed a TV crew to follow them for quite a while and they hung themselves by their own petard.

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Quote collier ro eagle at 09 Jan 2016 12.03pm

Goodbye BNP. Hello Britain First.


I don't profess to knowing too much about 'Britain First' however I do know that thy have stated categorically that "Race" does not feature in their policies or outlook and that often their meetings are attended by people from an ethnic minority background.In fact they invite those from ethnic backgrounds to join their ranks.

Edited by Willo (10 Jan 2016 3.01pm)


If Britian first is not racist then why have they been banned from facebook?


They're not banned from Facebook. And what's more, their page has almost 1.2m 'likes'.

Edited by Cucking Funt (11 Jan 2016 1.50pm)


They are adept at rabble-rousing and use social media to whip up emotions.

 


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Quote Willo at 10 Jan 2016 2.58pm

Quote collier ro eagle at 09 Jan 2016 12.03pm

Goodbye BNP. Hello Britain First.


I don't profess to knowing too much about 'Britain First' however I do know that thy have stated categorically that "Race" does not feature in their policies or outlook and that often their meetings are attended by people from an ethnic minority background.In fact they invite those from ethnic backgrounds to join their ranks.

Edited by Willo (10 Jan 2016 3.01pm)


If Britian first is not racist then why have they been banned from facebook?


They're not banned from Facebook. And what's more, their page has almost 1.2m 'likes'.

Edited by Cucking Funt (11 Jan 2016 1.50pm)


They are adept at rabble-rousing and use social media to whip up emotions.


Sounds a bit like the HOL

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 11 Jan 16 2.54pm

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Quote Willo at 10 Jan 2016 2.58pm

Quote collier ro eagle at 09 Jan 2016 12.03pm

Goodbye BNP. Hello Britain First.


I don't profess to knowing too much about 'Britain First' however I do know that thy have stated categorically that "Race" does not feature in their policies or outlook and that often their meetings are attended by people from an ethnic minority background.In fact they invite those from ethnic backgrounds to join their ranks.

Edited by Willo (10 Jan 2016 3.01pm)


If Britian first is not racist then why have they been banned from facebook?


I know next to nothing about them but I'd imagine that Facebook bowed to pressure to maintain their image and appear PC. Let's be honest, they would be accused of "racism" whether they were racist or not. Robust patriotism and outspoken objections to mass immigration is branded "racist" by many if the protagonists are white.

It's all about point of view I suppose.

They aren't specifically racist, although one could argue their ideology of 'respecting our heritage and culture' is a bit ignorant, and bordering on racist, given it assumes that the UK has an identifiable culture and heritage to protect.

They even have pictures of people who may or may not be members of Britain First on their website, who aren't white. Its an interesting fact that the far right leadership in the UK has increasingly distanced itself from race as an issue or factor.

The core party probably isn't racist, but I suspect a number of their members are, given their origins and appeal to ex-BNP and EDL members. Its a bit worrying as well their attempts to dismiss the ideas of racism as being a product of the Communist Party.

They are still however a bunch of ignorant hate mongering quasi militant religious fundamentalist f**kwads, who lack a sense of irony or humour. They're just ironically the kind of people the old proper Nazis and Fascists would have distanced themselves from as embarrassing (much like the old British Union of Fascists).

 


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Quote collier ro eagle at 09 Jan 2016 12.03pm

Goodbye BNP. Hello Britain First.


I don't profess to knowing too much about 'Britain First' however I do know that thy have stated categorically that "Race" does not feature in their policies or outlook and that often their meetings are attended by people from an ethnic minority background.In fact they invite those from ethnic backgrounds to join their ranks.

Edited by Willo (10 Jan 2016 3.01pm)


If Britian first is not racist then why have they been banned from facebook?


I know next to nothing about them but I'd imagine that Facebook bowed to pressure to maintain their image and appear PC. Let's be honest, they would be accused of "racism" whether they were racist or not. Robust patriotism and outspoken objections to mass immigration is branded "racist" by many if the protagonists are white.

It's all about point of view I suppose.

They aren't specifically racist, although one could argue their ideology of 'respecting our heritage and culture' is a bit ignorant, and bordering on racist, given it assumes that the UK has an identifiable culture and heritage to protect.

They even have pictures of people who may or may not be members of Britain First on their website, who aren't white. Its an interesting fact that the far right leadership in the UK has increasingly distanced itself from race as an issue or factor.

The core party probably isn't racist, but I suspect a number of their members are, given their origins and appeal to ex-BNP and EDL members. Its a bit worrying as well their attempts to dismiss the ideas of racism as being a product of the Communist Party.

They are still however a bunch of ignorant hate mongering quasi militant religious fundamentalist f**kwads, who lack a sense of irony or humour. They're just ironically the kind of people the old proper Nazis and Fascists would have distanced themselves from as embarrassing (much like the old British Union of Fascists).


Not sure I'd go down that route. The Jews consider themselves a race despite the fact that any scientist worth their salt could destroy that notion easily.
If we are talking about "heritage" then that is definable by those concerned just in the same way as the Jews define themselves as a race. There is no scientific basis for either but if a population remains stable ethnically for multiple centuries and then is significantly changed by immigrants in a few decades then there is surely at least an argument to be had about the impact.

 

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Goodbye BNP. Hello Britain First.


I don't profess to knowing too much about 'Britain First' however I do know that thy have stated categorically that "Race" does not feature in their policies or outlook and that often their meetings are attended by people from an ethnic minority background.In fact they invite those from ethnic backgrounds to join their ranks.

Edited by Willo (10 Jan 2016 3.01pm)


If Britian first is not racist then why have they been banned from facebook?


They're not banned from Facebook. And what's more, their page has almost 1.2m 'likes'.

Edited by Cucking Funt (11 Jan 2016 1.50pm)


This is exactlty how Nazi Germany started.

 

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