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Originally posted by lankygit

This is Jeremy giving his side of the story. Worth listening to.

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Brilliant!

 

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View dannyh's Profile dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 29 Apr 16 8.33am Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

Originally posted by susmik

dannyh I know thousands went on strike and probably will again but your initial post was from one doctor to which you pressed and pressed me to answer even though I asked you to read the ACTUAL contract being proposed. You did not do this but continued to push me even further to prove YOUR point and ignore mine completely. This shows to me that you argument is coming from a very immature person who thinks he is being clever. You have a hatred for Jeremy Hunt for what reason that is for you, but not anywhere and I repeat not anywhere in my posts have I bulled him up or used his name to justify my thinking. You need to wind your kneck in and think hard before typing all the repeat stuff you do and pay attention to detail which I am am sure you were told to do in the Army.
In regard to some healthcare being farmed out to the private sector your statements on that subject are somewhat very child like as this "private care" has been going on for many many years I suggest you do some homework and look into what exactly is being done by the private sector on behalf of the NHS which is believe it or not cost effective. Such as the tasks done for the armed forces by the public sector.
Abuse? you mentioned post in your last rant to my inability to tackle your points..what would you lik me to do draw you pictures? but I suspect that would be difficult for you too!
No matter what I might answer to your questions you will wriggle around like a worm and swing it back in a different manner and always come back to Jeremy Hunt who I might add Have never mentioned in my posts. Are you his love-child or something as you seem to like typing his name?

If you have always voted Tory..as I Have for many more years than you, and you are swinging the other way now, it does not mean that I accept all the changes, rules and whatever else they might throw at me as you do not. We all have our opinions on every aspect of our lives and that is a good thing and that is what these forums are for.

Your quote "I am trying to make you see that Jeremy Hunt is a lying oily little weasel, whose sole aim is to destroy the NHS so him and his Tory bum boys in the lords can reap the benefits of the eventual privatisation of the greatest health system in the world" is wasted on me as I do not believe for one minute that any government would ever try to do that let alone this one. The changes being made are to update the NHS and try and make it a seven day week service which I wholeheartedly agree with. With more doctors being recruited as is happening now and more nurses etc the NHS will be fantastic. What is killing the service at the moment is all the people coming into the country in their millions and who breed faster than you can wink that is what is overloading the system.
They also overload the housing system as well but that is another debate.
dannyh you have the right to state your case but so have I and i just disagree with doctors going on strike as you do condoning it. I rest my case.

Yes I did thank you very much, and the points on it that were raised by the Jnr Doctor, have still gone unanswered by you, just more drivel and utter rubbish.

Are you really that naive as to think the Torys won't privatise the NHS when they have by your own admission started doing so already. Oh and you skilfully avoided my point, that the NHS has to pay through the nose for every NHS patient that ends up being dealt with by a private health care initiative.

Would you care to elaborate on that point Mr Alf Garnet.

Your mind is like is like a soup bowl wide, but ultimately shallow and holds little.

 


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View susmik's Profile susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 29 Apr 16 11.19am Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by dannyh

Yes I did thank you very much, and the points on it that were raised by the Jnr Doctor, have still gone unanswered by you, just more drivel and utter rubbish.

Are you really that naive as to think the Torys won't privatise the NHS when they have by your own admission started doing so already. Oh and you skilfully avoided my point, that the NHS has to pay through the nose for every NHS patient that ends up being dealt with by a private health care initiative.

Would you care to elaborate on that point Mr Alf Garnet.

Your mind is like is like a soup bowl wide, but ultimately shallow and holds little.

I am now pretty sure you did not join the Intelligence corps by your answers. You are what we called in the Royal Marines/Navy "A lower deck Lawyer" I am sure of that. I have constantly given you my answers to the Young doctor you are constantly going on about and that is I do not agree with ANY of his points. happy now! It is his opinion and not mine. Are you his love child maybe? Just how many times are you going to rabbit on like a yapping hound at my heals because I do not agree with you. Your adolescent posts are becoming quite tiresome and I suggest you nip off to your medical centre and ask for some chill pills as I did say yesterday. but from your posts I see you have not taken any.
As for me admitting that the Tory's have started privatising the NHS you got that one wrong again. I did say that the labour government started sending patients to private companies because it was cheaper to and it has carried on like it because it saves the NHS spending millions on equipment that these other private companies have already. PLUS it eases the burden in hospitals etc. There are contracts in place for these cases so it is not always making the NHS pay through the nose as you put it. Plus every NHS dept that sends patients to these Private places have a budget put aside for it.
Your comments like "soup bowel" and "Alf Garnet" are very childish and immature and I am beginning to wonder if you really are a member of the Junior Leaders rather than a regular soldier. I am glad that the men in my company under my command were a lot more mature than you. A lot lot more mature!
So wind your kneck in and grow up man we all have different ideas in life and they may not be your ideas but do not think you are always right because you will come down with a big bang I can assure you.

 


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Originally posted by susmik

I am now pretty sure you did not join the Intelligence corps by your answers. You are what we called in the Royal Marines/Navy "A lower deck Lawyer" I am sure of that. I have constantly given you my answers to the Young doctor you are constantly going on about and that is I do not agree with ANY of his points. happy now! It is his opinion and not mine. Are you his love child maybe? Just how many times are you going to rabbit on like a yapping hound at my heals because I do not agree with you. Your adolescent posts are becoming quite tiresome and I suggest you nip off to your medical centre and ask for some chill pills as I did say yesterday. but from your posts I see you have not taken any.
As for me admitting that the Tory's have started privatising the NHS you got that one wrong again. I did say that the labour government started sending patients to private companies because it was cheaper to and it has carried on like it because it saves the NHS spending millions on equipment that these other private companies have already. PLUS it eases the burden in hospitals etc. There are contracts in place for these cases so it is not always making the NHS pay through the nose as you put it. Plus every NHS dept that sends patients to these Private places have a budget put aside for it.
Your comments like "soup bowel" and "Alf Garnet" are very childish and immature and I am beginning to wonder if you really are a member of the Junior Leaders rather than a regular soldier. I am glad that the men in my company under my command were a lot more mature than you. A lot lot more mature!
So wind your kneck in and grow up man we all have different ideas in life and they may not be your ideas but do not think you are always right because you will come down with a big bang I can assure you.

I will say this slowly so your ear trumpet can take it all in.

Saying you dont agree and thats that is the same as sticking your fingers in your ears and saying repeating lalalalalala and you call me a juvenile, well I'd rather be juvenile than a senile old racist.

fine you disagree with that Junior doctor, that much is clear, what is less clear through your threats and insults is why you disagree, you haven't offered one single counter argument to anything the good doctor has commented on , other than to say you don't agree and that's that.

And you know what I will wind my neck in because you are to f***ing thick to debate with.

As for questioning my leadership in the military, lots of things have changed since your day, we have rifles now instead of pitch forks, and if someone gets things wrong we don't bum them into submission or tie them to ironing boards and let them fall on their face, we try to encourage engage understand and develop. Come and join us in the year 2016, there is some good stuff going on.

Edited by dannyh (29 Apr 2016 1.27pm)

 


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Hoof Hearted 29 Apr 16 1.34pm

I think the clause in the new contract insisting "junior" doctors have to wear short trousers was a step too far.

No wonder they are unhappy!

 

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Originally posted by dannyh

I will say this slowly so your ear trumpet can take it all in.

Saying you dont agree and thats that is the same as sticking your fingers in your ears and saying repeating lalalalalala and you call me a juvenile, well I'd rather be juvenile than a senile old racist.

fine you disagree with that Junior doctor, that much is clear, what is less clear through your threats and insults is why you disagree, you haven't offered one single counter argument to anything the good doctor has commented on , other than to say you don't agree and that's that.

And you know what I will wind my neck in because you are to f***ing thick to debate with.

As for questioning my leadership in the military, lots of things have changed since your day, we have rifles now instead of pitch forks, and if someone gets things wrong we don't bum them into submission or tie them to ironing boards and let them fall on their face, we try to encourage engage understand and develop. Come and join us in the year 2016, there is some good stuff going on.

Edited by dannyh (29 Apr 2016 1.27pm)

You can say it quickly if you like but it does not change the fact that you are in fact do not want to accept that I hold different views to you. Calling me a senile old racist? where did that one come from. I thought this was a debate about young doctors NOT a racism issue. Saying because I disagree with you, is not me sticking two fingers in my ears so where did that come from. You mention threats??? What threats as I do not remember making threats towards you in any way whatsoever as I do not do that sort of thing.
Your cheap shot about rifles and pitchforks really do show your immaturity and intelligence level . you say on one hand that "if someone gets things wrong we don't bum them into submission or tie them to ironing boards and let them fall on their face" which is exactly what you are trying to do with me. AS for engaging and encouraging and make understand and develop YOU HAVE NOT and I have tried so very hard to make you see that other people have different ideas than you do. So bang goes that piece in your post.
I feel pretty sure that you mean well dannyh but please do not try and bend me towards your way of thinking as I will stick to my way as it worked when I was in the services for over 22 years and served me well and my men.
As for being thick you make me laugh as I think the tag fits you far better than it does me old son!!

 


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View susmik's Profile susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 29 Apr 16 3.03pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

I think the clause in the new contract insisting "junior" doctors have to wear short trousers was a step too far.

No wonder they are unhappy!

That could apply to some servicemen

 


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