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Originally posted by DanH

Despite the overwhelming majority of successful comedians being left leaning, and the right ones being well, Jim Davidson and Roy Chubby Brown.

Political correctness, or 'not being a d*ck' as it's otherwise known.

It's a curious one this. I mean by anyone's standards Clarkson is far less of a cnut than Frankie Boyle.

If you think a racial slur is more offensive than jokes about disabled children and continue to support the ginger prick because he has a dig at our government's immigration policy, then you really are a moron.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 11 May 16 9.53am

Originally posted by DanH

Despite the overwhelming majority of successful comedians being left leaning, and the right ones being well, Jim Davidson and Roy Chubby Brown.

Political correctness, or 'not being a d*ck' as it's otherwise known.

Roy Chubby Brown isn't politically incorrect, he's offensive. I quite like him - Bernard Manning as well - They're both good comedians, and its all an act. Roy Chubby Brown is probably most famous for his 'I thought you'd all be at home f**king your kids' line, when playing a crowd in Cleaveland.

Jim Davidson is a Charlton Fan, which means he must be a wife beater, and hasn't been funny since the 1980s.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 11 May 16 9.56am

Originally posted by johnfirewall

It's a curious one this. I mean by anyone's standards Clarkson is far less of a cnut than Frankie Boyle.

If you think a racial slur is more offensive than jokes about disabled children and continue to support the ginger prick because he has a dig at our government's immigration policy, then you really are a moron.

Its all an act. Its a good point, if we're happy with jokes about race or gender, why is disabled kids and rape the line you'd draw.

The important thing to remember is that they're really just jokes. Its a man, who essentially is entertaining an audience by seeing how far they will go.

 


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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Roy Chubby Brown isn't politically incorrect, he's offensive. I quite like him - Bernard Manning as well - They're both good comedians, and its all an act. Roy Chubby Brown is probably most famous for his 'I thought you'd all be at home f**king your kids' line, when playing a crowd in Cleaveland.

Jim Davidson is a Charlton Fan, which means he must be a wife beater, and hasn't been funny since the 1980s.

I have seen and read a couple of interviews with Royston Vasey (as opposed to Chubby Brown) and he is the complete opposite of his on stage persona. Quite striking really beacause you'd think that there must be a little of Chubby Brown in him but if there is it isn't very obvious.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 11 May 16 10.08am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

I have seen and read a couple of interviews with Royston Vasey (as opposed to Chubby Brown) and he is the complete opposite of his on stage persona. Quite striking really beacause you'd think that there must be a little of Chubby Brown in him but if there is it isn't very obvious.

Being a comedian, I think, for some people is as much as form of therapy and catharsis. Manning, by all accounts, had a lot of fans from the ethnic communities in Birmingham, Leicester and London.

 


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Hoof Hearted 11 May 16 11.00am

Originally posted by johnfirewall

Is this an example of it having gone mad, in objections being presented to the accurate portrayal of a terror attack during a training excercise?

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Maybe they should have said "Allah Akbar..... Oy Vey.... Jesus Christ... Buddah....Tom Cruise...etc" just to be 'fair'.

How can anyone object to a training exercise trying to recreate a terrorist attack in Europe and making it as realistic as possible to get people accustomed to a threatening and dangerous situation and act safely?

I don't know the actual statistics but as far as I'm aware the last few known terrorist attacks have all been carried out by Muslims shouting "Allah Akbar" before unleashing a hail of bullets and explosives on their innocent victims.

The Muslim communities are once again distancing themselves from these terror attacks rather than condemning the perpetrators.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 11 May 16 11.11am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Maybe they should have said "Allah Akbar..... Oy Vey.... Jesus Christ... Buddah....Tom Cruise...etc" just to be 'fair'.

How can anyone object to a training exercise trying to recreate a terrorist attack in Europe and making it as realistic as possible to get people accustomed to a threatening and dangerous situation and act safely?

I don't know the actual statistics but as far as I'm aware the last few known terrorist attacks have all been carried out by Muslims shouting "Allah Akbar" before unleashing a hail of bullets and explosives on their innocent victims.

The Muslim communities are once again distancing themselves from these terror attacks rather than condemning the perpetrators.

In a somewhat dark and funny turn of events, two suicide bombers were caught on audio and camera (one in Aleppo and another in Paris). In the first case, a British suicide bomber is heard to say 'I'm sorry I don't Speak Arabic' and in the other, when confronted by the French Anti-Terrorist squad, a confronted suspect is accused of being the girlfriend of the suspect they're chasing, and her last words were 'I'm not his girlfriend'.

But I'd imagine that something like Allah Akbar is fairly common and reasonable enough to a 'simulation' because of course someone shouting 'he's not my boyfriend' or 'Did I leave the Gas on' probably just creates confusion.

Apparently its quite common for secondary bombers to shout for help, to draw the attention of first responders and people closer to them.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 11 May 16 11.16am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Maybe they should have said "Allah Akbar..... Oy Vey.... Jesus Christ... Buddah....Tom Cruise...etc" just to be 'fair'.

How can anyone object to a training exercise trying to recreate a terrorist attack in Europe and making it as realistic as possible to get people accustomed to a threatening and dangerous situation and act safely?

I don't know the actual statistics but as far as I'm aware the last few known terrorist attacks have all been carried out by Muslims shouting "Allah Akbar" before unleashing a hail of bullets and explosives on their innocent victims.

The Muslim communities are once again distancing themselves from these terror attacks rather than condemning the perpetrators.

The complaint was from Dr Erinma Bell, who may be a Muslim, but is well known for campaigns in the area for peace activism and anti-gun initiatives.

You would hate her... (She founded a drive to collect illegal firearms and then turned them into a sculpture).

 


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Hoof Hearted 11 May 16 11.19am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

The complaint was from Dr Erinma Bell, who may be a Muslim, but is well known for campaigns in the area for peace activism and anti-gun initiatives.

You would hate her... (She founded a drive to collect illegal firearms and then turned them into a sculpture).

I don't mind her stance on illegal firearms to be fair.

She needs to wise up on who is responsible for all the terror related activities and turn her angst against them Jamie.

 

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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Maybe they should have said "Allah Akbar..... Oy Vey.... Jesus Christ... Buddah....Tom Cruise...etc" just to be 'fair'.

How can anyone object to a training exercise trying to recreate a terrorist attack in Europe and making it as realistic as possible to get people accustomed to a threatening and dangerous situation and act safely?

I don't know the actual statistics but as far as I'm aware the last few known terrorist attacks have all been carried out by Muslims shouting "Allah Akbar" before unleashing a hail of bullets and explosives on their innocent victims.

The Muslim communities are once again distancing themselves from these terror attacks rather than condemning the perpetrators.

To be fair I'm not sure they were the ones taking issue with it. Although I'd dispute the suggestion that simulating something in the same vane as the several preceeding instances is stereotyping.

Such things may be divisive, but then so is being blown up.

 

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Hoof Hearted 11 May 16 11.23am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

In a somewhat dark and funny turn of events, two suicide bombers were caught on audio and camera (one in Aleppo and another in Paris). In the first case, a British suicide bomber is heard to say 'I'm sorry I don't Speak Arabic' and in the other, when confronted by the French Anti-Terrorist squad, a confronted suspect is accused of being the girlfriend of the suspect they're chasing, and her last words were 'I'm not his girlfriend'.

But I'd imagine that something like Allah Akbar is fairly common and reasonable enough to a 'simulation' because of course someone shouting 'he's not my boyfriend' or 'Did I leave the Gas on' probably just creates confusion.

Apparently its quite common for secondary bombers to shout for help, to draw the attention of first responders and people closer to them.

That doesn't surprise me - getting maximum collateral damage like snipers wounding their target knowing someone will come to his aid and be another bonus target.

 

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A plane is about to crash and only three parachutes.

Teacher aboard says - 'Give them to the children quick'

Lawyer aboard says - 'Fvck the children'

Priest says 'Do we have time?'

 


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