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jamiemartin721 Reading 13 May 16 11.16am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I'm not so sure. They don't have to meet behind closed doors like Spectre. Alliances and the sharing of objectives can be on a much looser basis and influence lots of subordinates through fear and incentive alike. Those objectives are then brought to bear on the wider public. It's really easy for a handful of people to influence millions using various institutions and good old propaganda. I hope so, because it seems to me that its more like lots of people shouting loudly, whilst the rational and logical people talk quietly among themselves. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 13 May 16 11.16am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'm not so sure.

They don't have to meet behind closed doors like Spectre. Alliances and the sharing of objectives can be on a much looser basis and influence lots of subordinates through fear and incentive alike. Those objectives are then brought to bear on the wider public.

It's really easy for a handful of people to influence millions using various institutions and good old propaganda.

I hope so, because it seems to me that its more like lots of people shouting loudly, whilst the rational and logical people talk quietly among themselves.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 13 May 16 11.26am
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Not racist or offensive. It is quite possibly not even realistic, as its probably something we've adopted more from media culture than reality. Apparently the last words of a British Suicide bomber Majeed, were 'I'm sorry, I don't speak Arabic' (from an attack at Aleppo Prison). I included this, because its kind of perversely funny. It seems others have been 'Help Me', 'He's Not my Boyfriend' and bursting into tears (where they have been caught on camera). It may very well be that the shout of 'Allah Akhbar' is common, but personally I think 'He's not my Boyfriend' and 'I'm sorry I don't speak Arabic' are more suited to a post on politically incorrect comedy. Alans Snack bar. As I have heard on my travels and lamented on the comedy genius of squaddies, born from the hardships endured whilst on tour. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 13 May 16 11.26am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Not racist or offensive.

It is quite possibly not even realistic, as its probably something we've adopted more from media culture than reality. Apparently the last words of a British Suicide bomber Majeed, were 'I'm sorry, I don't speak Arabic' (from an attack at Aleppo Prison).

I included this, because its kind of perversely funny.

It seems others have been 'Help Me', 'He's Not my Boyfriend' and bursting into tears (where they have been caught on camera).

It may very well be that the shout of 'Allah Akhbar' is common, but personally I think 'He's not my Boyfriend' and 'I'm sorry I don't speak Arabic' are more suited to a post on politically incorrect comedy.

Alans Snack bar. As I have heard on my travels and lamented on the comedy genius of squaddies, born from the hardships endured whilst on tour.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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Hoof Hearted 13 May 16 11.32am
Originally posted by dannyh Alans Snack bar. As I have heard on my travels and lamented on the comedy genius of squaddies, born from the hardships endured whilst on tour. Hahaha.... comedy gold danny. I've seen a roadside cafe' called "Breakfast at Timothy's" a chip shop called "The Almighty Cod" and a hairdresser's called "Curl up and Dye". "Alan's Snack Bar" has gone straight in as my number 1.
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Hoof Hearted 13 May 16 11.32am

Originally posted by dannyh

Alans Snack bar. As I have heard on my travels and lamented on the comedy genius of squaddies, born from the hardships endured whilst on tour.

Hahaha.... comedy gold danny.

I've seen a roadside cafe' called "Breakfast at Timothy's" a chip shop called "The Almighty Cod" and a hairdresser's called "Curl up and Dye".

"Alan's Snack Bar" has gone straight in as my number 1.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 13 May 16 11.36am
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted Maybe they should have said "Allah Akbar..... Oy Vey.... Jesus Christ... Buddah....Tom Cruise...etc" just to be 'fair'. How can anyone object to a training exercise trying to recreate a terrorist attack in Europe and making it as realistic as possible to get people accustomed to a threatening and dangerous situation and act safely? I don't know the actual statistics but as far as I'm aware the last few known terrorist attacks have all been carried out by Muslims shouting "Allah Akbar" before unleashing a hail of bullets and explosives on their innocent victims. The Muslim communities are once again distancing themselves from these terror attacks rather than condemning the perpetrators. No they're not, they highlighted the mock attack and then condemned the perpetrator (who to be fair probably thought he was being funny - f***ing pc bullocks stifling racial stereotyping...) Or are you saying that 'the Muslim communities' should condemn terrorism because the police held a training exercise? Perhaps you aren't aware that many of 'the Muslim communities ' have indeed condemned terrorist atrocities. It's just it doesn't help stoke fear and rage does it, so it doesn't get printed.
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Shizzlehurst 13 May 16 11.36am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Maybe they should have said "Allah Akbar..... Oy Vey.... Jesus Christ... Buddah....Tom Cruise...etc" just to be 'fair'.

How can anyone object to a training exercise trying to recreate a terrorist attack in Europe and making it as realistic as possible to get people accustomed to a threatening and dangerous situation and act safely?

I don't know the actual statistics but as far as I'm aware the last few known terrorist attacks have all been carried out by Muslims shouting "Allah Akbar" before unleashing a hail of bullets and explosives on their innocent victims.

The Muslim communities are once again distancing themselves from these terror attacks rather than condemning the perpetrators.

No they're not, they highlighted the mock attack and then condemned the perpetrator (who to be fair probably thought he was being funny - f***ing pc bullocks stifling racial stereotyping...)

Or are you saying that 'the Muslim communities' should condemn terrorism because the police held a training exercise?

Perhaps you aren't aware that many of 'the Muslim communities ' have indeed condemned terrorist atrocities. It's just it doesn't help stoke fear and rage does it, so it doesn't get printed.

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Hoof Hearted 13 May 16 11.55am
Originally posted by nickgusset No they're not, they highlighted the mock attack and then condemned the perpetrator (who to be fair probably thought he was being funny - f***ing pc bullocks stifling racial stereotyping...) Or are you saying that 'the Muslim communities' should condemn terrorism because the police held a training exercise? Perhaps you aren't aware that many of 'the Muslim communities ' have indeed condemned terrorist atrocities. It's just it doesn't help stoke fear and rage does it, so it doesn't get printed. You're in a foul mood today Gusset. Go for a walk in the park and chill out.
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Hoof Hearted 13 May 16 11.55am

Originally posted by nickgusset

No they're not, they highlighted the mock attack and then condemned the perpetrator (who to be fair probably thought he was being funny - f***ing pc bullocks stifling racial stereotyping...)

Or are you saying that 'the Muslim communities' should condemn terrorism because the police held a training exercise?

Perhaps you aren't aware that many of 'the Muslim communities ' have indeed condemned terrorist atrocities. It's just it doesn't help stoke fear and rage does it, so it doesn't get printed.

You're in a foul mood today Gusset.

Go for a walk in the park and chill out.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 13 May 16 12.06pm
Originally posted by dannyh Alans Snack bar. As I have heard on my travels and lamented on the comedy genius of squaddies, born from the hardships endured whilst on tour. Aka Admiral Akbar among geeks and nerds. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 13 May 16 12.06pm

Originally posted by dannyh

Alans Snack bar. As I have heard on my travels and lamented on the comedy genius of squaddies, born from the hardships endured whilst on tour.

Aka Admiral Akbar among geeks and nerds.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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johnfirewall 13 May 16 12.24pm
Originally posted by nickgusset No they're not, they highlighted the mock attack and then condemned the perpetrator (who to be fair probably thought he was being funny - f***ing pc bullocks stifling racial stereotyping...) Or are you saying that 'the Muslim communities' should condemn terrorism because the police held a training exercise? Perhaps you aren't aware that many of 'the Muslim communities ' have indeed condemned terrorist atrocities. It's just it doesn't help stoke fear and rage does it, so it doesn't get printed. I was under the impression that this was the instruction from GMP rather than the 'perpetrator' of this simulated IS style attack throwing in a cheeky ad-lib. Bloody method actors.
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13 May 16 12.24pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

No they're not, they highlighted the mock attack and then condemned the perpetrator (who to be fair probably thought he was being funny - f***ing pc bullocks stifling racial stereotyping...)

Or are you saying that 'the Muslim communities' should condemn terrorism because the police held a training exercise?

Perhaps you aren't aware that many of 'the Muslim communities ' have indeed condemned terrorist atrocities. It's just it doesn't help stoke fear and rage does it, so it doesn't get printed.

I was under the impression that this was the instruction from GMP rather than the 'perpetrator' of this simulated IS style attack throwing in a cheeky ad-lib. Bloody method actors.

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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 13 May 16 3.57pm
Originally posted by nickgusset No they're not, they highlighted the mock attack and then condemned the perpetrator (who to be fair probably thought he was being funny - f***ing pc bullocks stifling racial stereotyping...) Or are you saying that 'the Muslim communities' should condemn terrorism because the police held a training exercise? Perhaps you aren't aware that many of 'the Muslim communities ' have indeed condemned terrorist atrocities. It's just it doesn't help stoke fear and rage does it, so it doesn't get printed. Not all Muslims are terrorist, but all terrorists are Muslim these days.
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Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 13 May 16 3.57pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

No they're not, they highlighted the mock attack and then condemned the perpetrator (who to be fair probably thought he was being funny - f***ing pc bullocks stifling racial stereotyping...)

Or are you saying that 'the Muslim communities' should condemn terrorism because the police held a training exercise?

Perhaps you aren't aware that many of 'the Muslim communities ' have indeed condemned terrorist atrocities. It's just it doesn't help stoke fear and rage does it, so it doesn't get printed.

Not all Muslims are terrorist, but all terrorists are Muslim these days.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 13 May 16 6.49pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted You're in a foul mood today Gusset. Go for a walk in the park and chill out. In other words you can't find a decent response... (do I say smashed here, like a 5 year old would?)
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Shizzlehurst 13 May 16 6.49pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

You're in a foul mood today Gusset.

Go for a walk in the park and chill out.

In other words you can't find a decent response... (do I say smashed here, like a 5 year old would?)

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elgrande bedford 14 May 16 9.27am
Originally posted by nickgusset No they're not, they highlighted the mock attack and then condemned the perpetrator (who to be fair probably thought he was being funny - fing pc bullocks stifling racial stereotyping...) Or are you saying that 'the Muslim communities' should condemn terrorism because the police held a training exercise? Perhaps you aren't aware that many of 'the Muslim communities ' have indeed condemned terrorist atrocities. It's just it doesn't help stoke fear and rage does it, so it doesn't get printed. Can you please explain to me what is wrong with this. Has it not been shouted at all the last with tragic attacks. I fear this is what the f is wrong ...too f*ing busy trying not to upset someoen or another,and whops too late we all ge blown up. Grow a pair its not going to be the local branch of the"Amish" that attacks us. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 14 May 16 9.27am

Originally posted by nickgusset

No they're not, they highlighted the mock attack and then condemned the perpetrator (who to be fair probably thought he was being funny - f***ing pc bullocks stifling racial stereotyping...)

Or are you saying that 'the Muslim communities' should condemn terrorism because the police held a training exercise?

Perhaps you aren't aware that many of 'the Muslim communities ' have indeed condemned terrorist atrocities. It's just it doesn't help stoke fear and rage does it, so it doesn't get printed.

Can you please explain to me what is wrong with this.
Has it not been shouted at all the last with tragic attacks.
I fear this is what the f*** is wrong ...too f***ing busy trying not to upset someoen or another,and whops too late we all ge blown up.
Grow a pair its not going to be the local branch of the"Amish" that attacks us.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 May 16 10.13am
Originally posted by elgrande Can you please explain to me what is wrong with this. Has it not been shouted at all the last with tragic attacks. I fear this is what the f* is wrong ...too f*ing busy trying not to upset someoen or another,and whops too late we all ge blown up. Grow a pair its not going to be the local branch of the"Amish" that attacks us. What's wrong with racial stereotyping? You tell me.
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Shizzlehurst 14 May 16 10.13am

Originally posted by elgrande

What's wrong with racial stereotyping? You tell me.

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Hoof Hearted 14 May 16 10.20am
Originally posted by nickgusset In other words you can't find a decent response... (do I say smashed here, like a 5 year old would?) No..... it meant what I said. You are becoming a bit of a drama queen... well... more of one if truth be told. Sometimes the best way to deal with people being unreasonable is to ignore them and let them recover from whatever tantrum or hissyfit they are experiencing. I'll do that.... and suggest others do the same. See you later Gusset, when the 'black dog' has gone maybe?
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Hoof Hearted 14 May 16 10.20am

Originally posted by nickgusset

In other words you can't find a decent response... (do I say smashed here, like a 5 year old would?)

No..... it meant what I said.

You are becoming a bit of a drama queen... well... more of one if truth be told.

Sometimes the best way to deal with people being unreasonable is to ignore them and let them recover from whatever tantrum or hissyfit they are experiencing.

I'll do that.... and suggest others do the same.

See you later Gusset, when the 'black dog' has gone maybe?

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