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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 04 Feb 16 5.00pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by elgrande


While intake in what you are saying.....with the greatest respect. That's bollocks....the left are the ones calling for mass immigration... Hence Corbyn and his cronies visiting the camps in France.
And yes if you read my post,that his just what I am saying mass immigration affects the very people the left are supposed to protect.
In fact I was talking to someone today who owns a cleaning company.
He has had to lay off half a dozen cleaners recently, because of just that,the offices are employing people ( eastern Europeans) for half the price he was paying his workforce.
Which yes the company who are employing them for less are totally wrong.....but if they were not here they foul not do it.

The Right Wing signed us up to Maastricht and freedom of movement for foreign workers. The Right Wing joined the EU in its original form. The right wing encouraged economic liberalism and were anti-protectionism.

Most of what we have now that you don't like is the result of right wing government's implemented free market policies which were not reversed or regulated during Labour's tenure 1997-2010.

The Right Wing by 2020 will have been in charge for 28 of the last 41 years.

But let's blame the left anyway.

 


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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 04 Feb 16 5.00pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


Although this doesn't cover Calais specifically it does break down the numbers a bit.
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62%

Far from being propelled by economic migrants, this crisis is mostly about refugees. The assumption by the likes of Hammond, May and others is that the majority of those trying to reach Europe are fleeing poverty, which is not considered by the international community as a good enough reason to move to another country. Whereas in fact, by the end of July, 62% of those who had reached Europe by boat this year were from Syria, Eritrea and Afghanistan, according to figures compiled by the UN. These are countries torn apart by war, dictatorial oppression, and religious extremism – and, in Syria’s case, all three. Their citizens almost always have the legal right to refuge in Europe. And if you add to the mix those coming from Darfur, Iraq, Somalia, and some parts of Nigeria – then the total proportion of migrants likely to qualify for asylum rises to well over 70%.

If that is the case,you should settle in the first safe country.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 04 Feb 16 5.01pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Do what France did, declare them all safe countries. Job done. Australia ships them off, Israel traffics them back in to Africa. We just want another European country to deal with their own problems, not much to ask is it?

If we left the EU however, we could easily cope with those seeking refuge or asylum as the net migration figures would drop off the cliff from current levels.

 


Optimistic as ever

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 04 Feb 16 5.04pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

The Right Wing signed us up to Maastricht and freedom of movement for foreign workers. The Right Wing joined the EU in its original form. The right wing encouraged economic liberalism and were anti-protectionism.

Most of what we have now that you don't like is the result of right wing government's implemented free market policies which were not reversed or regulated during Labour's tenure 1997-2010.

The Right Wing by 2020 will have been in charge for 28 of the last 41 years.

But let's blame the left anyway.

You've forgotten the coalition government, once again.

f*** who signed up to what and why. It wasn't the current generation of voters, on either side of the fence and those that did get to vote believe they were blatantly lied to.

 


Optimistic as ever

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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 04 Feb 16 5.28pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

The Right Wing signed us up to Maastricht and freedom of movement for foreign workers. The Right Wing joined the EU in its original form. The right wing encouraged economic liberalism and were anti-protectionism.

Most of what we have now that you don't like is the result of right wing government's implemented free market policies which were not reversed or regulated during Labour's tenure 1997-2010.

The Right Wing by 2020 will have been in charge for 28 of the last 41 years.

But let's blame the left anyway.

And between 1997 and 2010 3.6 million immigrants settled here....that's rather a lot.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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View leifandersonshair's Profile leifandersonshair Flag Newport 04 Feb 16 6.45pm Send a Private Message to leifandersonshair Add leifandersonshair as a friend

And over 600,000 between March 2014 and March 2015. That's also rather a lot- under a Tory (albeit coalition) government too!

Immigration (much like the NHS) should be completely depoliticized. But, far easier to sling mud about 'it's the fault of the liberal left' or 'its the fault of the big business right'.

 

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View -TUX-'s Profile -TUX- Flag Alphabettispaghetti 04 Feb 16 7.04pm Send a Private Message to -TUX- Add -TUX- as a friend

Whether we are 'in' or 'out', the bottom line is that nothing will really change.
Be-it a General Election or a vote on Europe, life will carry on with little disruption (if any) for 99% of us, the same as it always has and always will be.

Fact.

 


Time to move forward together.

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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 04 Feb 16 7.18pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by -TUX-

Whether we are 'in' or 'out', the bottom line is that nothing will really change.
Be-it a General Election or a vote on Europe, life will carry on with little disruption (if any) for 99% of us, the same as it always has and always will be.

Fact.


Personally I don't give a monkeys about myself,got a few quid in the bank, home,and a nice car..and the best of all a season ticket......but my kids and grandkids, they have it all to go through.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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View -TUX-'s Profile -TUX- Flag Alphabettispaghetti 04 Feb 16 7.24pm Send a Private Message to -TUX- Add -TUX- as a friend

Originally posted by elgrande


Personally I don't give a monkeys about myself,got a few quid in the bank, home,and a nice car..and the best of all a season ticket......but my kids and grandkids, they have it all to go through.

Go through what bud? Life will carry on as usual.

 


Time to move forward together.

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