Peter Tatchell 'no platformed'
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 matt_himself  Matataland 16 Feb 16 4.58am |
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Another curious episode from the left: The irony is that Tatchell is a defender of free speech, one of the few people who speak on the subject who is worth listening too. I don't believe for a minute Tatchell is guilty of what he is accused of here.
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| topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 16 Feb 16 7.17am |
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She (the union rep) seems to want to only debate with people that agree with her, which is hardly a debate is it? If Tatchell has been racist and transphobic then she should welcome the chance to debate this with him.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Feb 16 10.23am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Another curious episode from the left: The irony is that Tatchell is a defender of free speech, one of the few people who speak on the subject who is worth listening too. I don't believe for a minute Tatchell is guilty of what he is accused of here. If you've ever attended university, as a leftie, then invariably you'll have the horror that is the run in with the 'Student Unionistas' types. Its almost a psychiatric disorder among young people who read a book on feminism or Marxism, where in they suddenly decide they're the source by which the world will change and that they are the 'new cause - Problem is they typically have read a few books, a phamplet or two and wiki'd the lunatic fringe - Its much easier to read the Scum Manifesto, than to read Social Theory of Gender.
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| npn Crowborough 16 Feb 16 10.30am |
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For my sins, I looked her up on twitter last night. Couldn't find her, but found a friend and union colleague saying how disgraceful it was that it had been made public. Simple answer : don't say it if you don't want it public.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 16 Feb 16 11.21am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
If you've ever attended university, as a leftie, then invariably you'll have the horror that is the run in with the 'Student Unionistas' types. Its almost a psychiatric disorder among young people who read a book on feminism or Marxism, where in they suddenly decide they're the source by which the world will change and that they are the 'new cause - Problem is they typically have read a few books, a phamplet or two and wiki'd the lunatic fringe - Its much easier to read the Scum Manifesto, than to read Social Theory of Gender. Unfortunately there seems to be no correlation between academic ability and sense.
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| beagle pom tiddly om pom pom 16 Feb 16 11.24am |
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Same student logic that tried to gag Germaine Greer for her supposedly 'transphobic' remark that, in her opinion, surgically removing a man's appendage doesn't necessarily make that person a woman. ie there's more to being a woman than the bits. The correct way to deal with students:
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Feb 16 12.59pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Unfortunately there seems to be no correlation between academic ability and sense. In my experience, these people don't tend to be academic achievers either. They spend far too much time attending events, organising protests etc than they do studying. Of course sense is itself a value judgement, based on how much someone 'agrees' with another's opinion or point of view, irrespective of evidence that its false. So, scientifically speaking, there is no correlation between academic ability and sense.
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| bexleydave Barnehurst 16 Feb 16 1.57pm |
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When I was a student, in higher education, the bette noir of the NUS was psychologist Hans Eysenck, for his frankly risible views on race and intelligence. But by disrupting his lectures and refusing to allow debate with him on academic premises, the NUS made themselves look like, in my view, a facist organisation. Better that such views be shown for what they are by reasoned argument than by attempting to suppress them. That is not to suggest that either Tatchell or Greer are in any way similar to Eysenck.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Feb 16 2.01pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Another curious episode from the left: The irony is that Tatchell is a defender of free speech, one of the few people who speak on the subject who is worth listening too. I don't believe for a minute Tatchell is guilty of what he is accused of here. Not 'the left' but from the left, vast difference. There are plenty of left wing persuasion who think the whole episode is a sorry arse.
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Seth  On a pale blue dot 16 Feb 16 2.23pm |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
When I was a student, in higher education, the bette noir of the NUS was psychologist Hans Eysenck, for his frankly risible views on race and intelligence. But by disrupting his lectures and refusing to allow debate with him on academic premises, the NUS made themselves look like, in my view, a facist organisation. Better that such views be shown for what they are by reasoned argument than by attempting to suppress them. That is not to suggest that either Tatchell or Greer are in any way similar to Eysenck. I agree. It's better to let people air their views (within the law of course - incitement to hatred or violence shouldn't be allowed) and then allow a debate to take place. If the views are valid they will withstand scrutiny and if they're not they won't.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 16 Feb 16 3.15pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
In my experience, these people don't tend to be academic achievers either. They spend far too much time attending events, organising protests etc than they do studying. Of course sense is itself a value judgement, based on how much someone 'agrees' with another's opinion or point of view, irrespective of evidence that its false. So, scientifically speaking, there is no correlation between academic ability and sense. That's what I just said.
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| bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 16 Feb 16 3.34pm |
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Tatchell is a nasty vindictive little man who likes to bully people. Would love to punch his lights out.
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