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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 02 Mar 16 2.14pm Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Government says no.

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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 02 Mar 16 2.29pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Cost is too high so a no from me and comparing the cost of care to the vaccine is stupid look at the stats the number for death/treatment is very low so it ouldn't be near the full cost of giving this to every child plus it comes from a different fund.

People should be chasing the pharm companies that produce this stuff they are criminals and could easily allow this to be cheap but don't want to and you wil find the nhs does not get good prices for vaccines/drugs.

 


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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 02 Mar 16 3.17pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort

Cost is too high so a no from me and comparing the cost of care to the vaccine is stupid look at the stats the number for death/treatment is very low so it ouldn't be near the full cost of giving this to every child plus it comes from a different fund.

People should be chasing the pharm companies that produce this stuff they are criminals and could easily allow this to be cheap but don't want to and you wil find the nhs does not get good prices for vaccines/drugs.

I agree that the financing of drug research needs a real overhaul - signed, 816,968

 

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View rob1969's Profile rob1969 Flag Banstead Surrey 02 Mar 16 9.46pm Send a Private Message to rob1969 Add rob1969 as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort

Cost is too high so a no from me and comparing the cost of care to the vaccine is stupid look at the stats the number for death/treatment is very low so it ouldn't be near the full cost of giving this to every child plus it comes from a different fund.

People should be chasing the pharm companies that produce this stuff they are criminals and could easily allow this to be cheap but don't want to and you wil find the nhs does not get good prices for vaccines/drugs.

The NHS is by far and away the largest purchaser of drugs in the UK. In fact quite possibly the largest single buyer globally! Given this they should be in a position to negotiate the best possible deals with the drug companies. if they paying too much it suggests a lack of professionalism in the buying negotiators. Need to employee some from the big supermarkets - they know how to really screw suppliers!

 

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View Monty the Eagle's Profile Monty the Eagle Flag Lima 03 Mar 16 12.28pm Send a Private Message to Monty the Eagle Add Monty the Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by rob1969

The NHS is by far and away the largest purchaser of drugs in the UK. In fact quite possibly the largest single buyer globally! Given this they should be in a position to negotiate the best possible deals with the drug companies. if they paying too much it suggests a lack of professionalism in the buying negotiators. Need to employee some from the big supermarkets - they know how to really screw suppliers!

In defence of the drug companies you can understand them holding out for the best price possible. All the while they are listed companies with shareholders to keep happy (including many of our pension providers) they have a legal duty to do so.

On top of this they have a finite window of exclusivity before they have to share data on the drug (roughly ten years) so they need to recoup their investment and provide a return to shareholders.

Not saying I agree that morally it is the right thing to do but at least there is a programme now being rolled out.

 

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View Eunectes's Profile Eunectes Flag Aberystwyth 16 Mar 16 10.23pm Send a Private Message to Eunectes Add Eunectes as a friend

Originally posted by Monty the Eagle

In defence of the drug companies you can understand them holding out for the best price possible. All the while they are listed companies with shareholders to keep happy (including many of our pension providers) they have a legal duty to do so.

On top of this they have a finite window of exclusivity before they have to share data on the drug (roughly ten years) so they need to recoup their investment and provide a return to shareholders.

Not saying I agree that morally it is the right thing to do but at least there is a programme now being rolled out.

The other point that is frequently missed is that pharmaceutical research is just so staggeringly expensive; not just in terms of materials, staff etc. but in that, for every drug that makes it to market they also have to cover R & D costs on potentially hundreds of others that simply don't work once they reach human trials!

 

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