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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 28 May 16 11.10am
Originally posted by silvertop Hardly comparable; side steps the points made; and for giving in to bullying, I could counter with another trite platitude: if you can't beat em join em. Only we are already joined. A hegemonous Europe dominated by Germany and you say it's hardly comparable? The aims are the same; only the weapons have changed. The consequences of Brexit, as described by you, are bullying by any definition you care to use. These are no 'trite platitudes', old chap. The long term objective is a European superstate with Britain surrendering more and more of its sovereignly as that aim is assiduously pursued. A vote for Brexit is a vote to expose the whole corrupt, unaccountable, ramshackle, artificial nature of the organisation for what it is. "We have only to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down". Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 28 May 16 11.10am

Originally posted by silvertop

Hardly comparable; side steps the points made; and for giving in to bullying, I could counter with another trite platitude: if you can't beat em join em. Only we are already joined.

A hegemonous Europe dominated by Germany and you say it's hardly comparable? The aims are the same; only the weapons have changed.

The consequences of Brexit, as described by you, are bullying by any definition you care to use. These are no 'trite platitudes', old chap. The long term objective is a European superstate with Britain surrendering more and more of its sovereignly as that aim is assiduously pursued. A vote for Brexit is a vote to expose the whole corrupt, unaccountable, ramshackle, artificial nature of the organisation for what it is.

"We have only to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down".

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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johnfirewall 28 May 16 11.15am
Originally posted by Kermit8 When all has been said and done not one of the 'Outs' on here or otherwise has convinced sufficiently that we will be better off economically away from the EU and that the peace in Western and central Europe that has evolved over the last 70 years will definitely not be compromised for the next 70 should the EU break up with not a little help from ourselves in June. Stop playing the economy card. We all know it's about the socialist ideals and that only racists are voting out.
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28 May 16 11.15am

Originally posted by Kermit8

When all has been said and done not one of the 'Outs' on here or otherwise has convinced sufficiently that we will be better off economically away from the EU and that the peace in Western and central Europe that has evolved over the last 70 years will definitely not be compromised for the next 70 should the EU break up with not a little help from ourselves in June.

Stop playing the economy card. We all know it's about the socialist ideals and that only racists are voting out.

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Hoof Hearted 28 May 16 11.40am
Well me and the Mrs have already voted by post and its 2-0 to the Leave/Out campaign. Adios, Arrivederci, Au Revoir, Auf Wiedersehen etc Europe.
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Hoof Hearted 28 May 16 11.40am

Well me and the Mrs have already voted by post and its 2-0 to the Leave/Out campaign.

Adios, Arrivederci, Au Revoir, Auf Wiedersehen etc Europe.

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Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 28 May 16 11.45am
Originally posted by Cucking Funt A hegemonous Europe dominated by Germany and you say it's hardly comparable? The aims are the same; only the weapons have changed. The consequences of Brexit, as described by you, are bullying by any definition you care to use. These are no 'trite platitudes', old chap. The long term objective is a European superstate with Britain surrendering more and more of its sovereignly as that aim is assiduously pursued. A vote for Brexit is a vote to expose the whole corrupt, unaccountable, ramshackle, artificial nature of the organisation for what it is. "We have only to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down". I've said it before. Yes full sovereignty will return to Parliament, but what extra power and self-governance will I feel out of Europe?
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Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 28 May 16 11.45am

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

A hegemonous Europe dominated by Germany and you say it's hardly comparable? The aims are the same; only the weapons have changed.

"We have only to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down".

I've said it before. Yes full sovereignty will return to Parliament, but what extra power and self-governance will I feel out of Europe?

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kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 28 May 16 11.47am
I've just come back from a week in Portugal. To a man(woman) everbody I spoke to said OUT. All of those were in 50-70 age bracket. Ironically the only 2 people who said Brexit was a terrible idea were German bar owners who berated the UK for not controlling its borders and blaming our mess on EU. The fear mongering & plain bullying scare tactics by the remain camp has really ramped up a notch too. Apparently Godzilla may attack the devon coast if we leave, devastating the scrumpy apple harvest. Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents? Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.
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I've just come back from a week in Portugal.
To a man(woman) everbody I spoke to said OUT.
All of those were in 50-70 age bracket.

Ironically the only 2 people who said Brexit was a terrible idea were German bar owners who berated the UK for not controlling its borders and blaming our mess on EU.

The fear mongering & plain bullying scare tactics by the remain camp has really ramped up a notch too.
Apparently Godzilla may attack the devon coast if we leave, devastating the scrumpy apple harvest.

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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JohnyBoy 28 May 16 11.52am
Originally posted by johnfirewall Stop playing the economy card. We all know it's about the socialist ideals and that only racists are voting out. But at the end of the day it is so much about the economy because everything works off it: health, education, pensions, housing etc etc. I promise you if i honestly thought we would be better off economically i would vote to leave. I would have no problem paying for health coverage abroad or customs duty on my cheap booze from france because i could afford it. It wouldnt even bother me that much if people on here called me a swivel eyed bigot. But the stark reality of a leave outcome is that we would poorer, have a lower standard of living and less life opportunities, so remain surely is the only rational choice. Nobody on here was able to tell me what 1 of the 73 laws were that the uk meps voted against, nobody was able to explain why Ukip had the worst attendance record out of 700+ parties in brussels and why they voted against britain getting the rebate and i still havnt heard one convincing argument for a leave vote
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28 May 16 11.52am

Originally posted by johnfirewall

Stop playing the economy card. We all know it's about the socialist ideals and that only racists are voting out.

But at the end of the day it is so much about the economy because everything works off it: health, education, pensions, housing etc etc. I promise you if i honestly thought we would be better off economically i would vote to leave. I would have no problem paying for health coverage abroad or customs duty on my cheap booze from france because i could afford it. It wouldnt even bother me that much if people on here called me a swivel eyed bigot. But the stark reality of a leave outcome is that we would poorer, have a lower standard of living and less life opportunities, so remain surely is the only rational choice.
Nobody on here was able to tell me what 1 of the 73 laws were that the uk meps voted against, nobody was able to explain why Ukip had the worst attendance record out of 700+ parties in brussels and why they voted against britain getting the rebate and i still havnt heard one convincing argument for a leave vote

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JohnyBoy 28 May 16 11.58am
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted Well me and the Mrs have already voted by post and its 2-0 to the Leave/Out campaign. Adios, Arrivederci, Au Revoir, Auf Wiedersehen etc Europe. YOU DID WHAT HOOF? I was sure you would vote remain! Well me and the missus have been sent two voting cards each (one to my old address) so does that make it 4-2! Or will the conspiracy theorists on here claim its election fraud orchestrated by George Osborne...hmmmm
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28 May 16 11.58am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Well me and the Mrs have already voted by post and its 2-0 to the Leave/Out campaign.

Adios, Arrivederci, Au Revoir, Auf Wiedersehen etc Europe.

YOU DID WHAT HOOF? I was sure you would vote remain! Well me and the missus have been sent two voting cards each (one to my old address) so does that make it 4-2! Or will the conspiracy theorists on here claim its election fraud orchestrated by George Osborne...hmmmm

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Hoof Hearted 28 May 16 12.13pm
Originally posted by JohnyBoy YOU DID WHAT HOOF? I was sure you would vote remain! Well me and the missus have been sent two voting cards each (one to my old address) so does that make it 4-2! Or will the conspiracy theorists on here claim its election fraud orchestrated by George Osborne...hmmmm No Johnny still 2-0 because you haven't actually put your X on the ballot papers like me and Debs have! I imagine Capita or G4S have been involved in the admin if you have two voting cards... how did the cards at your old address get to you at your new address? I would be worried that it would make both invalid, so you maybe want to flag it up if you want your vote(s) to count. I would also remind you that.... It is an offence to "vote more than once at this referendum, unless you are voting on your own behalf and as a proxy for another person" This warning is printed very clearly on your Poll Card.
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Hoof Hearted 28 May 16 12.13pm

Originally posted by JohnyBoy

No Johnny still 2-0 because you haven't actually put your X on the ballot papers like me and Debs have!

I imagine Capita or G4S have been involved in the admin if you have two voting cards... how did the cards at your old address get to you at your new address?

I would be worried that it would make both invalid, so you maybe want to flag it up if you want your vote(s) to count.

I would also remind you that....

It is an offence to

"vote more than once at this referendum, unless you are voting on your own behalf and as a proxy for another person"

This warning is printed very clearly on your Poll Card.

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JohnyBoy 28 May 16 1.21pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted No Johnny still 2-0 because you haven't actually put your X on the ballot papers like me and Debs have! I imagine Capita or G4S have been involved in the admin if you have two voting cards... how did the cards at your old address get to you at your new address? I would be worried that it would make both invalid, so you maybe want to flag it up if you want your vote(s) to count. I would also remind you that.... It is an offence to "vote more than once at this referendum, unless you are voting on your own behalf and as a proxy for another person" This warning is printed very clearly on your Poll Card. Haha Hoof, you seem rattled! Its easy to get royal mail to forward mail to a new address... But fear not, i have no intention of breaking the law....is that one of the 73 laws passed by the eu? No...still cant think of one. And are you sure that your good missus voted out? In the privacy of the voting booth she may well surprise you....perhaps while you are tapping away on your keyboard she's in the other room with her online persona, aka the free thinking liberal Kermit, the open minded sporty or the vastly intelligent bigpalacefan....you never know hoof, but shes hardly likely to admit it to you is she. On the subject of families, did we see that the green party have said that 100k families (where one partner is an eu or non uk citizen) could face marital breakdown due to visa and work permit requirements? Surely we cant want this?
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28 May 16 1.21pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

No Johnny still 2-0 because you haven't actually put your X on the ballot papers like me and Debs have!

I imagine Capita or G4S have been involved in the admin if you have two voting cards... how did the cards at your old address get to you at your new address?

I would be worried that it would make both invalid, so you maybe want to flag it up if you want your vote(s) to count.

I would also remind you that....

It is an offence to

"vote more than once at this referendum, unless you are voting on your own behalf and as a proxy for another person"

This warning is printed very clearly on your Poll Card.

Haha Hoof, you seem rattled! Its easy to get royal mail to forward mail to a new address...
But fear not, i have no intention of breaking the law....is that one of the 73 laws passed by the eu? No...still cant think of one.
And are you sure that your good missus voted out? In the privacy of the voting booth she may well surprise you....perhaps while you are tapping away on your keyboard she's in the other room with her online persona, aka the free thinking liberal Kermit, the open minded sporty or the vastly intelligent bigpalacefan....you never know hoof, but shes hardly likely to admit it to you is she.
On the subject of families, did we see that the green party have said that 100k families (where one partner is an eu or non uk citizen) could face marital breakdown due to visa and work permit requirements? Surely we cant want this?

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 28 May 16 4.59pm
Not sure if this has been posted... Click To See David Cameron’s Pro-EU Leaflet Get Completely Debunked! [Link]
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Not sure if this has been posted...

Click To See David Cameron’s Pro-EU Leaflet Get Completely Debunked! [Link]

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becky over the moon 28 May 16 5.08pm
Well, well, Even Cameron is now admitting that we survive after a Brexit! [Link] A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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