I realise I'm a couple of pages late to the party, was reading a discussion about teaching kids in school between Jamie and Stuk

I don't get why anyone would delay teaching kids about things like gender and sexuality. If they are learning that people have mummys and daddys they should be learning that some people have two mums or two dads etc.

By waiting till secondary school or till they have learnt what they perceive as 'normal' you are then abnormalising something completely normal. They are learning that these things directly counter what they understand and have done from such a young age.

Do I think kids should be forced to be educated in things like these to keep them as open minded as possible? Absolutely, I also think they should be forced to learn maths and English, am I forcing too much on kids stuk?

By the way I'm not talking about having classes on what a Trans person is, I'm just talking about not making it anything but normal. If your headmaster is Gay then he should be free when telling kids anecdotes as teachers do, to mention his husband or whatever. If they have questions, then they should be answered.

With greater reflection and thought, I also ended up agreeing with stuk.

I do find it odd that people wouldn't teach their children about more than just men and women, husbands and wives, but would teach them about a virgin birth the necessity of slowly torturing animals to death or slicing off foreskins for god. But c'est la vie, We all have to get along.

I'm not a fan of the word 'normal' in the context of educating children about diversity.

I haven't met a transgender person in my life. To say that experiencing feelings of being 'trapped' in a body of the wrong sex is not in my opinion 'normal'. I would say that it is a sign of being mentally dysfunctional.

Being gay is different. It is fundamentally about sexual attraction, a primal instinct that is shared by animals. Nor, according to studies is same-sex attraction confined to humans.

Transgenderism isn't in my view normal. As we are told every day by the experts and liberal proselytes, gender is a human construct. Certain, behavioural characteristics are associated with it. Therefore, I think that teaching children about transgenderism specifically at any stage of their schooling isn't necessary. With the internet they'll find out about it anyway.

What must be taught is a fundamental respect for the diversity in experiences and feelings that others have and that others must be treated with dignity and respect.

I personally think trans people need love and compassion. That can take many, many forms I'm not suggesting a particular one. But honestly, if you found out a girl/guy you thought looked alright was in fact trans would you still be interested. I think from about 95% of straight people, the honest answer/thought would be 'no'.

This last point is perhaps redundant, but would those people be transphobic because of their feeling? Surely not, because a person's biological sex has nothing to do with 'gender' (so we're told) so for example a transgender woman who is attracted to men is still technically homosexual.

Sorry for all my nonsense, it's probably pointless and boring.

Ignorance on a scale.

Kids who are born with too many 'bits' have to be assigned a gender before their 20th month or summat. The peeps involved do what they can to get it right and place the child under a 'male' or 'female' heading but they aren't infallible. They get it wrong sometimes.

Why do you get a w*** on trying to be 'right on'?

The fact is that you probably met a very limited amount of trannies in your life. I speak from my experience, I think I can count the number of trannies I have met on one hand. There was one at my Mum's church on Sunday. Six foot four and looked like a bloke in a dress. The fact is that it isn't that common, however you dress it up. There should be no competition on how many trannies you know. I probably know the same amount as you. Why keep trying to educate the masses on your 'experiences'? No one really cares or thinks it's exceptional.